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xkos
03-06-2011, 04:39 AM
fresh out of the box....

first setup:
neu 1415 2200kv -4s 30C - 200amp swordfish - 440/3 and 442

Second setup:
lehner basic xxl 3000kv -4s 30c - 200amp swordfish - 440/2

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more pics with updated hardware coming soon...

xkos
03-28-2011, 04:40 PM
slow steps...

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Boomer
03-29-2011, 12:08 AM
very nice!
Boomer

PIGSTI13
03-31-2011, 11:45 AM
Sweetness....Nice work. :cool2:

xkos
04-01-2011, 07:15 PM
Some modifications for better water cooling...

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gibbies_03
04-04-2011, 04:18 PM
get any gps running that 22ookv? or run times on 4S...thats the exact setup i plan on ordering today...

xkos
04-07-2011, 04:11 PM
RTF.....(ready to fly)....

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First test this weekend....:banana:

xkos
04-09-2011, 12:33 PM
First test run today... I have to move the strut up....

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tiqueman
04-09-2011, 12:48 PM
Very nicely done.

wilsta67
04-09-2011, 03:20 PM
nice one!
:flammes-09:

boaterkid333
04-09-2011, 05:30 PM
Thats a beautiful place! where is that at?

xkos
04-09-2011, 09:34 PM
Greece...

xkos
04-15-2011, 03:35 PM
second trim


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orNCKYOSfbM

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xkos
04-17-2011, 05:05 AM
Need some help here!
I run my MG with a neu 1415 (2200kv)/200amp Swowrdfish/x642/5s and from the last test (see videos on post #13) the speed on gps was only 37 mph... It seems like i need a bigger motor or it was gps issue? I don't know yet until next run. A friend of mine has a HOTR 32' cat with a neu 1515 2200kv and he is realy fast on 4s and flying on 5s...
My target is 50-60mph on 5s and 40-45 on 4s. Suggestions please....

PDR447
04-17-2011, 10:17 AM
yeah, that's way too slow for that setup! it looks like it's running very wet. check your strut height, strut/drive dog gap, and CG. but also it never looks like you really got to give it full throttle cause of the conditions(too rough). is there a lake or something you can run at that has better water conditions?

xkos
04-17-2011, 11:52 AM
Here is my stut height

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Dog gap is fine, CG checked and give full throttle...
Is correct to give a small angle to the prop side in order to raise the front part of the hull?

xkos
05-05-2011, 12:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9f9BW2dyIM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhRa_fbmPXM

Since the last run I decide to change my motor... Neu 1518 2340kv is coming in a few weeks....

bbosncali
05-05-2011, 03:43 PM
Did you change your stuffing tube or just cut it back??? I cut mine back and installed a 40mm leopard motor mount in mine which I love. You definetly have plenty of room in yours. I was hitting mid 40's with a x642 and a leopard 4074 2200kv on 4s and my best was with a cc 1512 1800kv I hit 55.3mph with an m445 on 6s you should definetly be a lot faster with your set up. Make sure you have enough space between the strut and the stuffing tube about 1/8-1/4 works best for me and are not binding good idea with the second pick up I did the same and get great flow

xkos
05-05-2011, 05:08 PM
I have run my MG three times with difference props x642, x440, x440/3, prestwitch 443 and difference strut heights. Finally she is running well (not so wet as the first time) but she needs a motor with more torque. I will make some changes to the motor mount if the neu 1518 will not fit.
I am sure that next time with the new motor i will see speeds close to 50s on 4s and 60s on 5s...

JackBlack26
05-05-2011, 09:53 PM
I contemplated nothing my strut support bracket like that but instead I just drop the strut to clear bigger props. Works great and the boat performs consistently every time.

Boat looks great though!

xkos
05-22-2011, 06:16 AM
Today was the first time running with offset ruder. The difference was amazing...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICJ-2u52XEw

TheShaughnessy
05-22-2011, 01:31 PM
you really don't need more power, 2350 on 4s is starting to cross the line just a bit, i wouldn't go more then 2200 kv, with a 4074 2200 kv on 4s in the geico, if you aren't hitting the 50 mph mark something is wrong with your set up not the motor. I'm getting 47+ out of a 60 dollar ul1 spec motor. What are your temps like?

I definitely would not put a 3000 kv motor in and expect to go faster, you'll most likely just melt stuff.

you are propping kinda small. x440, and x440/3 are both pretty small for that motor in this hull. The x642 has more pitch then the m445 i'm running so in theory it should be faster.

Where are your batteries at?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_KKeU0fLs

you should easily be faster then this. ^^.

those batteries you have may not be enough for the amp draw, do you have a watt meter?

Just watched your last vid. looked pretty good, about as fast as you can expect with the chop

bbosncali
05-22-2011, 02:22 PM
I got 63.4mph out of a $60 tacon motor so price means nothing imo. To date that is my fastest speed but my worst run times and after awhile I'm sure something would fry especially on 6s not to mention I'm sure I was getting plenty of prop slip. The ul-1 motor is a great motor for the money but I do agree that if your not hitting around 50 then there is something wrong with the setup. I ran a 4074 2200kv on 4s with a x642 and got mid to high 40's changed to an m445 and was noticalby faster no gps but was definetly faster. M440 is just to small of a prop every motor I used ith that prop I got my slowest speeds. I never used anything over a 2200kv s I'm not sure how well a higher kv would work. An x642 is a great all around prop and was the prop I used with my tacon motor



you really don't need more power, 2350 on 4s is starting to cross the line just a bit, i wouldn't go more then 2200 kv, with a 4074 2200 kv on 4s in the geico, if you aren't hitting the 50 mph mark something is wrong with your set up not the motor. I'm getting 47+ out of a 60 dollar ul1 spec motor. What are your temps like?

I definitely would not put a 3000 kv motor in and expect to go faster, you'll most likely just melt stuff.

you are propping kinda small. x440, and x440/3 are both pretty small for that motor in this hull. The x642 has more pitch then the m445 i'm running so in theory it should be faster.

Where are your batteries at?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R_KKeU0fLs

you should easily be faster then this. ^^.

those batteries you have may not be enough for the amp draw, do you have a watt meter?

Just watched your last vid. looked pretty good, about as fast as you can expect with the chop

bbosncali
05-22-2011, 02:37 PM
I have run my MG three times with difference props x642, x440, x440/3, prestwitch 443 and difference strut heights. Finally she is running well (not so wet as the first time) but she needs a motor with more torque. I will make some changes to the motor mount if the neu 1518 will not fit.
I am sure that next time with the new motor i will see speeds close to 50s on 4s and 60s on 5s...

The1518 will fit but not sure if the tupperware lid will fit anymore. You woul also have to make a support bracket for the rear of the motor or you can do what I did and just change the motor mount and now both lids fit no problem. I use a cc 1518 1800kv in my mg and out of the 5 or 6 motors I've tested it is by far my favorite. I likes it so much I bought one for my genesis build. Plenty of torque lots of rpms and great run times. Only 62.1mph so far but haven't had a chance to play with it since that day. It has plenty of potential.

ron1950
05-22-2011, 04:22 PM
looks great runs fast....what more can u ask for ?

xkos
05-23-2011, 12:01 AM
@TheShaughnessy: the problem was the ruder behind the prop...on 5s and X440/3 and 642 the speeds was 35-37mph, the cavitation with x440/3 was very obvious. But now with offset ruder the boat behaves like a deep-v in the corners and the speed on 5s and x642 was 47mph. The most important thing for me was that when i put again the x440/3 on 4s the boat was flying without cavitation. The difference was huge. I believe that if i make some strut adjustments 50-55mph with the same motor (neu 1415) will be easy now. Also i want to try some 4s2p 45-90c nanotech next time. Can you imagine what this thing can do if i put the 1518 2340kv?

@ron1950: my personal goal is 60-63 mph on 5s.

bbosncali
05-23-2011, 09:09 AM
1518 is overiillbomb 6s imobv62.1mphb isbplentlybfast rastvrorvav30 inchichbhll hull.brherbothermotor or isoverkill lmo

PDR447
05-23-2011, 12:54 PM
1518 is overiillbomb 6s imobv62.1mphb isbplentlybfast rastvrorvav30 inchichbhll hull.brherbothermotor or isoverkill lmo

what?

xkos
06-17-2011, 06:22 PM
Some good results from the last run
4s bionic 5500 30c octura 440/3 (45,73mph)
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5s nano 4500 25c octura 440/3 (49.6 mph)
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xkos
07-07-2011, 04:20 AM
At last....the new engine is here....

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Next week will be very interesting
Thanks

xkos
07-18-2011, 05:22 PM
Tomorrow will try neu 1518 (2340kv) with 4s2p (10000mah total) and m545, and 5s2p (9000 mah total) with x642.
Can anyone estimate amps draw? I have a swordfish 200amp esc.
thanks.

CHIEFY_44
07-18-2011, 07:34 PM
how fast do you want to go mine hits 55 regularly on a leo 4074 2200kv a t-180 with a m445 prop and 4000 nanotechs 4s2p and i am going to try a 447 or a 545 maybe both as temps are good

xkos
07-19-2011, 03:30 AM
I want to check if parallel connection can give me more speed than series. Yesterday i tried the 1518 with 4s1p (5000 25c - m545) and with 5s1p (4500 25c - x440/3) and the result was disappointing, 44mph on 4s and 47mph on 5s while with the same lipos and props and neu 1415 2200kv the speed was 47mph on 4s and 53mph on 5s. I'm sure that i need lipos with higher C ratting.