IMPBA D12 FE Racing in 2011 (MD, DE, DC, VA, NC) discussion

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Chilli
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2008
    • 3070

    #1

    IMPBA D12 FE Racing in 2011 (MD, DE, DC, VA, NC) discussion

    I've actually got a little free time and just wanted to open a new thread for D12 FE racing for 2011. To say we broke the ice in 2010 would be an understatement. Thanks to all of you for making it happen! It looks like just about all of us have projects on the bench for next year, so I imagine things are only going to get bigger and better next year.

    Here is where we're at for 2011 in a nutshell:
    We just finished up a trial year with combined nitro/electric classes for P-spec Hydro, P-spec outboard tunnel and P-mono. Things couldn't have gone any better! I expect the classes to be voted permanent at the district 12 meeting over the winter. Voting is done by district club officers. Now, what's in store for the 2011? I have to give Don a call but I think the trend is going to continue to try and bolster nitro classes that have been having light turn outs. I think Don wants to combine the bigger nitro hydro classes into a Open Nitro/FE hydro class. I think he also wants a combined Nitro/FE 1/8th scale class (with the parity rule). Personally I would also like to see Open Nitro Mono become Open Nitro/FE mono. So I'm pretty sure that's what we're looking at for next year. These possible new additions will have to be proposed and approved at the winter meeting before it's a done deal. Also remember FE's can run in Open Cat and Open offshore. But you better have a boat that's capable of running with big gas boats.

    Now, some of you may be thinking down the road and wondering what's it going to take for us to get a class of our own? Don often gets asked to add classes for the district race series. His response is always the same. "Show me the money". Whether gas, nitro or FE. That means get a group of guys to build the boats for the class that you want to run and bring them to the races. And not just one or two district races. You have to have enough participation at almost all the district races. That's the only way we're going to get our own FE classes in the future. We had a great turn out at Chesapeake, but we had just one FE in Greensboro, two in Queenstown, one in Centreville and one in Hagerstown. So at this point ,we are not in a position to ask for anything. But as FE's get more exposure and their numbers grow, so will be our ability to get our own separate FE classes.

    I hope you all have a great, safe Holiday season. I can't wait till spring!!!
    Last edited by Chilli; 12-27-2010, 02:22 AM.
    Mike Chirillo
    www.capitolrcmodelboats.com
  • Chilli
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jan 2008
    • 3070

    #2
    Distric 12 FE rules can be found here:

    http://www.impba.net/index.php?optio...catid=17&id=65
    Mike Chirillo
    www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

    Comment

    • Diegoboy
      Administrator
      • Mar 2007
      • 7244

      #3
      I still express my absolute disgust for #6. Before the dawn of brushless motors, there was no rule like #6 applied to nitro.
      I know, I know...
      "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
      . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

      Comment

      • Chilli
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Jan 2008
        • 3070

        #4
        Point taken Danny. The only class this was a factor for last year was B/P-Mono. All the spec classes played nice with the B nitro classes with no complaints. If we run a Open Nitro/FE Hydro and Mono class next year, this rule should not apply. Open means Open. But we are probably looking at a parity rule for the 1/8th Scale class. Don will let us know when the D12 winter meeting is. If you want to come up to Richmond to request any rule changes, that would be cool. If you don't want to, I'll be happy to bring up anyones requests.
        Mike Chirillo
        www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

        Comment

        • Diegoboy
          Administrator
          • Mar 2007
          • 7244

          #5
          Mike, If I'm off that day, I'd be happy to attend
          "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
          . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

          Comment

          • don ferrette
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Aug 2010
            • 1093

            #6
            Originally posted by Nautiboyz
            Point taken Danny. The only class this was a factor for last year was B/P-Mono. All the spec classes played nice with the B nitro classes with no complaints. If we run a Open Nitro/FE Hydro and Mono class next year, this rule should not apply. Open means Open. But we are probably looking at a parity rule for the 1/8th Scale class. Don will let us know when the D12 winter meeting is. If you want to come up to Richmond to request any rule changes, that would be cool. If you don't want to, I'll be happy to bring up anyones requests.
            The parity rule will remain for B/P mono and also apply in 1/8 scale if we combine which we probably will do. I'm already working on the details as I plan to run an FE scale for 2011 as well. Open nitro/FE hydro and open nitro/FE mono may have an 8S cap on power but that's probably all. Again still working on the final details......
            - IMPBA Hall of Fame -
            - IMPBA Hydro Technical Director -

            Comment

            • Diegoboy
              Administrator
              • Mar 2007
              • 7244

              #7
              well I guess there's no need for me to attend now.
              "A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough."
              . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .Bruce Lee. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

              Comment

              • Doug Smock
                Moderator
                • Apr 2007
                • 5272

                #8
                Originally posted by don ferrette
                The parity rule will remain for B/P mono and also apply in 1/8 scale if we combine which we probably will do. I'm already working on the details as I plan to run an FE scale for 2011 as well. Open nitro/FE hydro and open nitro/FE mono may have an 8S cap on power but that's probably all. Again still working on the final details......
                With a 8s cap on FE will you be keeping the 101s out of the open classes?

                Doug
                MODEL BOAT RACER
                IMPBA President
                District 13 Director 2011- present
                IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                IMPBA 19887L CD
                NAMBA 1169

                Comment

                • Chilli
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3070

                  #9
                  Or KP with a .60
                  Mike Chirillo
                  www.capitolrcmodelboats.com

                  Comment

                  • don ferrette
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1093

                    #10
                    Originally posted by D.Smock
                    With a 8s cap on FE will you be keeping the 101s out of the open classes?

                    Doug
                    Based on MANY conversations will well versed experienced "big block" FE guys as well as my own research a properly set up 8S will be as fast or faster than any of the big block nitro motors. Of course like anything else things can be tweaked if needed as we go. Just like before, you gotta walk before you run.
                    - IMPBA Hall of Fame -
                    - IMPBA Hydro Technical Director -

                    Comment

                    • Doug Smock
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 5272

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nautiboyz
                      Or KP with a .60
                      MODEL BOAT RACER
                      IMPBA President
                      District 13 Director 2011- present
                      IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                      IMPBA 19887L CD
                      NAMBA 1169

                      Comment

                      • Doby
                        KANADA RULES!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 7280

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Diegoboy
                        I still express my absolute disgust for #6. Before the dawn of brushless motors, there was no rule like #6 applied to nitro.
                        I know, I know...
                        Rule #6,,,thats hilarious.....hopefully someone put that in there as a bad joke. De-Tune the boat.....how far it is de-tuned is really up in the air...how about till the noisy and stinky boats are all faster than the electric one.....do the noisy and stinky guys have the final say on when its de-tuned enough

                        Sadly pathetic.
                        Grand River Marine Modellers
                        https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...ne%20modellers

                        Comment

                        • don ferrette
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 1093

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Doby
                          Rule #6,,,thats hilarious.....hopefully someone put that in there as a bad joke. De-Tune the boat.....how far it is de-tuned is really up in the air...how about till the noisy and stinky boats are all faster than the electric one.....do the noisy and stinky guys have the final say on when its de-tuned enough

                          Sadly pathetic.
                          So this is a productive statement in what way? At least here in D12 we are moving FORWARD in bringing FE into the mainstream. Until such a time that FE can stand on it's own concessions will be needed to keep things level and having a place to play. Sure beats the alternative........
                          - IMPBA Hall of Fame -
                          - IMPBA Hydro Technical Director -

                          Comment

                          • Doug Smock
                            Moderator
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5272

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Doby

                            Sadly pathetic.
                            Actually fellas it makes perfect sense. Put yourself in a nitro racers shoes. You've been doing fine for all of these years and then these FE guys show up and clean your clock. How long would you let them play in your sandbox????
                            Exactly.
                            At the end of the day it can work, and D12 proved that last year. Well except for that one guy.LOL

                            D.
                            MODEL BOAT RACER
                            IMPBA President
                            District 13 Director 2011- present
                            IMPBA National Records Director 2009-2019
                            IMPBA 19887L CD
                            NAMBA 1169

                            Comment

                            • Doby
                              KANADA RULES!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 7280

                              #15
                              Its hard to keep things "level" when there is a rule in place that can never be accuratley inforced. Its way to subjective and there will never be any agreement on when a boat is "de-tuned" enough.

                              Rules like that only add to the ongoing confusion. Apples and Oranges can only play nicely in the "open" classes.
                              Grand River Marine Modellers
                              https://www.facebook.com/search/top/...ne%20modellers

                              Comment

                              Working...