BBY's Conquest build

[RandyatBBY]

I am starting a rebuild for a friend it is a Aeromarine Conquest cat. It will be running twin 2215 2Y's in 10S2P. This is the hull I will be starting with it had a vinyl wrap kind of cool.
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I cleaned out the tunnel and relined it with CF. I also cut down the bulkheads to make entry easier to get in to the sides of the hull.
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The motors I will be running will be these, they are next to a UL-1 motor to com pair the size difference. they are huge! :lol: :w00t:
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[LarrysDrifter]

Wow.This is gonna be an awsome build.Definitely watching this one.You do some fine work.Cant wait to see this done.

[RandyatBBY]

Well I finished the CF a few days ago.

[LarrysDrifter]

Did this build peter off?

[RandyatBBY]

Did this build peter off?

No I got side tracked with the Nitro Lap cat conversion. I will be back on this build soon. I have about 9 or 10 builds in process and I am only one guy.

[RandyatBBY]

well I got the motor mounts finished.
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[rearwheelin]

Thats sick Randy ! Love it !

[RandyatBBY]

Thats sick Randy ! Love it !

Thanks Randy that means a lot coming from you. I installed the new motor mounts on CF sheets. It comes in and out of the boat in about 3 minutes.

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[rearwheelin]

Looks good and pleanty strong ! Is this one yours ?

[RandyatBBY]

No I am building for a customer in Bermuda.

[RandyatBBY]

I got a little of my work out of the way for this build and spent the morning installing the hardware, stuffing tubes next.
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[RandyatBBY]

Well I finished installing the stuffing tubes Doubble wall tubbing.
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[LarrysDrifter]

Looks good,Randy.I have just bent one of my stuffing tubes for my triple cat the same way you have in the above picture.Have you ever ran a boat with the tube bent this way?I feel no binding with mine,but it makes me paranoid that something bad might happen.

[RandyatBBY]

Looks good,Randy.I have just bent one of my stuffing tubes for my triple cat the same way you have in the above picture.Have you ever ran a boat with the tube bent this way?I feel no binding with mine,but it makes me paranoid that something bad might happen.

Yes I have ran boats with S bends I never use them on small shafts .150 and smaller. The larger 3/16 and up work well with S bends. But I feel they need a better brace near the motor
This is the mounts I build to hold the stuffing tube in place.

one for each stuffing tube.
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I built them for this build, the customer still comes back and buys more boats from me. I am building him a 34 War Eagle right now for P Sport Hydro.
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=10742

[LarrysDrifter]

Thanks.Im running 3/16 flexes with mine.I like your tube supports.Looks overkill-in a good way and looks good.

[RandyatBBY]

Thanks.Im running 3/16 flexes with mine.I like your tube supports.Looks overkill-in a good way and looks good.

In the boat they were built for, a 92 inch HPR. There was a lot of room. In this Conquest it will be a little tighter.

[RandyatBBY]

I have also found that using S bends I like to have a extra thickness or more clearance in the stuffing tube, It just makes it way too hard to pull the shaft in a out. I have made them to fit just big enough then the bends make it too tight. so from now on I make them a little bigger.

[RandyatBBY]

I can not belive I spent the day building these yesterday. It was all setup of the mill.
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[Brushless55]

Wow, this looks very cool! :bowdown:

[ManuelW]

Hey Randy,

really very nice build. But for the next time I'd really recommend to avoid the S-bend of the flex shafts. I think it will increase performance and also look better.

But for the rest, keep up the good work!!!

Best regards,
Manuel

[RandyatBBY]

Hey Randy,

really very nice build. But for the next time I'd really recommend to avoid the S-bend of the flex shafts. I think it will increase performance and also look better.

But for the rest, keep up the good work!!!

Best regards,
Manuel

The motors are so big I could not turn the motor so there would not be a S bend. I would have to cut a hole in the side of the boat to do so. It is the dihedral part that is too narrow. But thanks I like all of your work except the fixed Motor Mounts, You have done some real wild stuff. I like motor mounts that are easier to get the motor in and out of the boat. I have built fixed motor mounts in some of my boats and at a race when I had a lack of time they drove me me crazy!

I have not done SAW runs with this boat or Power. It would be interesting to see the difference. I have ran s bends in .150 and smaller the motors do not have enough power so it does decrease performance in that application. But with the massive power in the 2215 2Y it just gives you another bearing point. and the stuffing tube needs to be a lot bigger than with a single bend.

I have friends who have done SAW test with one inch Nitro motors and they say it is better preformance with a S Bend on on 3/16 and larger over the single bends.

Oh thanks for the nuggies or complements !

[RandyatBBY]

Wow, this looks very cool! :bowdown:

Thanks

[RandyatBBY]

Hey Randy,

really very nice build. But for the next time I'd really recommend to avoid the S-bend of the flex shafts. I think it will increase performance and also look better.

But for the rest, keep up the good work!!!

Best regards,
Manuel

Thanks for posting Good or bad I like reply.

[martno1fan]

Looks good,Randy.I have just bent one of my stuffing tubes for my triple cat the same way you have in the above picture.Have you ever ran a boat with the tube bent this way?I feel no binding with mine,but it makes me paranoid that something bad might happen.

Its been proven a good S bend is better than one single bend it actually creates less friction so dont worry :thumbup1:.
Mart

[ManuelW]

@ Randy:
Interesting to hear, because here we have the complete opposite opinion. An S-bend in the shaft is an absolute "No-Go" here, we all drive single bends and especially in the "superfast" boats. Had the luck to see the three fastest cats in the work driving, they would use S-bends if it would have less friction. My opinion: smooth single bend and a suitable brass/aluminium tube with teflon tube inside --> perfect solution and well-proven for FE.

Its difficult so see on the pictures but I'd say there is always a possibility to tilt the motors enough to get a smooth single bend, also in this Conquest hull.

And for your motors: Well I think fixed mounts as I use them may have cons concerning fast motor changes but I'd say I hardly ever have to change the motor so its okay for me and for the boats I build. As some Pro's I think they look nice, have little weight and increase stiffness of the hull.

Best regards,
Manuel

[RandyatBBY]

@ Randy:
Interesting to hear, because here we have the complete opposite opinion. An S-bend in the shaft is an absolute "No-Go" here, we all drive single bends and especially in the "superfast" boats. Had the luck to see the three fastest cats in the work driving, they would use S-bends if it would have less friction. My opinion: smooth single bend and a suitable brass/aluminium tube with teflon tube inside --> perfect solution and well-proven for FE.

Its difficult so see on the pictures but I'd say there is always a possibility to tilt the motors enough to get a smooth single bend, also in this Conquest hull.

And for your motors: Well I think fixed mounts as I use them may have cons concerning fast motor changes but I'd say I hardly ever have to change the motor so its okay for me and for the boats I build. As some Pro's I think they look nice, have little weight and increase stiffness of the hull.

Best regards,
Manuel
Thanks for the reply. Interesting discusion,

One thing I am using a 1/4 flex shaft and I have had a experience that with Teflon liner and a hot setup in oval trim the shaft will weld it self to the stuffing tube. To eliminate this problem I have gone to no Teflon and double wall stuffing tube. I will be at the SAW's in about three weeks If I have the chance to run identical setups with single bends and double bends this would be proof one way or the other.

I guess that Myself and martno1fan is not enough to convince you. Please do not get mad just discussing with you. I respect your passion and ability.

[martno1fan]

There have been tests done regarding s bends and single bends the fact that the flex is suppoorted at two points in the s bend stops cable slop and thus cuts down on the friction(thats my uneducated explanation anyways lol).A guy showed the test results he did and the s bend was the winner hands down versus single bend .There was a thread on it on Jims a few years back if memory serves.Have to agree with Randy though on teflon liners :thumbsdown: .
Mart

[RandyatBBY]

There have been tests done regarding s bends and single bends the fact that the flex is suppoorted at two points in the s bend stops cable slop and thus cuts down on the friction(thats my uneducated explanation anyways lol).A guy showed the test results he did and the s bend was the winner hands down versus single bend .There was a thread on it on Jims a few years back if memory serves.Have to agree with Randy though on teflon liners :thumbsdown: .
Mart

This is all for high speed large flex shafts (3/16 and 1/4). For sport small flex shafts .150 and below with low RPM a single bend and Teflon is fine. In fact the best for the application.

[ManuelW]

Hi Randy,

well why should I get mad? Its just a very nice discussion and not a war. Only thing which might be interesting, if you see it as "spam" in your building review that we could start a new thread for the discussion.

But to the topic: Well you are right and I'm not yet convinced that something that I've succesfully used in two high speed projects as well as my friends just is not the optimal solution.

Maybe I can convince you:
So you tell me in a hot Oval setup your Teflon liner of a 1/4" just melted ? - then I'd definitely say it was a user mistake!!

Here maybe the most powerful FE boats:
-hull: HPR 233, RTR weight around 60pounds
-engines: LMT 3080/8 (at >3pounds each about 25% bigger than a NEU 2230!)
-lipos: 12S4P Kokam 4000 --> giving a 12S 16.000mAh for each engine
-Props: Octura X463 or bigger
-runtime: about 10min
-speed: ~140km/h
-flex shaft: 1/4" Flex shaft with Teflon liner, single bend

Photo:
http://www.hpr-powerboats.ch/cpg149/albums/uploads/normal_hpr_233_drambui_herrms_details_104.jpg

Performance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rvzYgF28JE

I'd say 99% of FE-boaters will never put through that much power. And it just worked great with 1/4" flex shaft with Teflon liner and a smooth single bend. At these performance even 1% loss would instantly melt the whole system but it was nearly cold after running. These guys absolutely know what they did I'd say. Its just the question to use quality material as well, there are different 1/4" flex shafts and teflon liners availabe - as well as the correct building of the system.

Best regards,
Manuel

[Killer V]

Randy,

Take all what you here with a grain of salt. It may all cloud your mind. You built me the finest and one of the fastest oval racing Riggers I have ever seen or owned. You do amazing work, mostly from what is already in your head, and from the hundreds of builds already under your belt.

My opinion, under the conditions, and the large motors, you will see little drag with your S bend stuffing tubes. I would not use a liner in this case. Just support the stuffing tubes well, as you have so ingeniously designed.

Continued success and all the best.

Jeff Lucca

[RandyatBBY]

Manuel Hi

I must say that that video is impressive, Very fast long runs.

I was a one bend guy for the longest time and still am for the most part. It may be a different Teflon you guys use than us.... possibly??? If it was not for every Gas/Nitro guy I know does not use it with 1/4 drives. It was my 1/8 Scale boat that had the shaft weld to the stuffing tube and changed my mind.

No worries about the Spam, I just wanted to make sure you were not miffed.

[RandyatBBY]

Randy,

Take all what you here with a grain of salt. It may all cloud your mind. You built me the finest and one of the fastest oval racing Riggers I have ever seen or owned. You do amazing work, mostly from what is already in your head, and from the hundreds of builds already under your belt.

My opinion, under the conditions, and the large motors, you will see little drag with your S bend stuffing tubes. I would not use a liner in this case. Just support the stuffing tubes well, as you have so ingeniously designed.

Continued success and all the best.

Jeff Lucca
Thanks

[ManuelW]

Hey Randy,

had some time to think about it, and I think I may found a "solution". Could someone please post a photo of such a rigger with Oval setup?

And I really think its also a question of quality. For example concerning 1/4" shaft, here you can easily see the good ones, they have a single brass wire in them.
This is a link to a photo of Modellbaucenter-Lorenz:
http://www.modellbaucenterlorenz.de/catalog/images/flexwellelinks14.jpg

And I hope you are not "miffed" too (had to look up the word in the dictionary :tongue_smilie:). I'd never say that it won't work as you build it and I think it will work very well without any problems. Its just from my opinion and experience that a smooth single bend with teflon liner should work even better.

Best regards,
Manuel

[RandyatBBY]

We need to ask martno1fan if he can find the thread on Jim's Boat dock and post a link to this information.

I woke up at 4:30AM this morning, could not stop tossing and turning thinking about your reply. Then I read your most recient reply and went back to sleep.

How many Millamps are they running per bank in that video?

[TotalPackage]

Bottom line Randy the work you do is bad azz:spy:

[Vortech C5]

Off topic, but I am putting together a BBY carbon boat Randy laid up for me. It is all painted and done now. I am simply putting all the hardware back into it. This is BY FAR the best boat I have ever had. I tried it before the paint job and it was AMAZING on 6S. The whole build has taken me a long time, but it was well worth it. Randy is a genius!

Ray
P.S. I will post pics soon! :Peace_Sign:

[TotalPackage]

The one curve is less drag im sure but how good it looks is a matter of opinion. It looks good to me hands down beside any rig Ive seen.

[RandyatBBY]

The one curve is less drag im sure but how good it looks is a matter of opinion. It looks good to me hands down beside any rig Ive seen.

NO, it in the large cable it winds up and causes intermittent points of touch and with the S bend there is one less so it is less drag. This is waht I was told by my buds in Nitro.

And thanks guys the props really make me feel better. Is that Ray with the SC33?

[Vortech C5]

Hi Randy,
Yes, Ray from "Robins Hobby" here! I am loving my carbon SC33!
:) Ray

[RandyatBBY]

Hi Randy,
Yes, Ray from "Robins Hobby" here! I am loving my carbon SC33!
:) Ray
Cool I am putting a XTM 1/8 motor in mine as we speak to test and see how it works. Cool seeing on the board. You should hook up with my bud Properchopper and run with him.

[TotalPackage]

NO, it in the large cable it winds up and causes intermittent points of touch and with the S bend there is one less so it is less drag. This is waht I was told by my buds in Nitro.

And thanks guys the props really make me feel better. Is that Ray with the SC33?

hmm thinking of how the cable would act as is restricts they could be right:huh: Looks like you better go on and tune your 233 you got 30 series lehners in yours too hmm. And speaking of neus I'm sure me and all the boys on ose and nue can put together an international SAW event:eek:.Now one thing I can say about that teflon liner. It will kill unwanted vibration that will rob rpm but I also can see where it may be a problem in a s bend config depending on the bend radiuses. Far as cables go Ive always ran hughey cable and they are some of the best period. Im also sure if Randy made some theyre sone of the best.

Ps Manuel I love your boats and I love the euro scene:hug1: but dont get too fly yall boys running neus too:spy: lol

[ManuelW]

Hello,

@ Randy: They are running 16.000mAh packs on EACH motor:
http://www.hpr-powerboats.ch/cpg149/albums/uploads/hpr_233_drambui_herrms_details_105.jpg
(one of these packs is around 12pounds, makes ~24pounds of battery overall)

@ TotalPackage:
Could you please write "but dont get too fly yall boys running neus too" in other words, can't understand what it means and translater/dictionary couldn't help me either.

And for the rest:
Don't get me wrong, but for the S-bend everyone here talks about the "I've heard, that...." thing. I don't doubt that it works, I think its just not effective in twin-cats with motors in the sponsons. What I can say is, from my own experience is, that I run a >100mph twin-cat with a quite hot 12S setup and it just works great with 1/4" flex and teflon liner. Does get barely warm and also absolutely no problems with vibration. I had also the luck to see all three cats on the world that actually run >125mph live and they also run 1/4" flex with teflon liner.

So this is just a recommendation, what you do with it (ignore/dislike/follow/comment/discuss/...) is your own choice.

Best regards,
Manuel

[TotalPackage]

@ TotalPackage:
Could you please write "but dont get too fly yall boys running neus too" in other words, can't understand what it means and translater/dictionary couldn't help me either.

Fly= arrogant

[ManuelW]

Hello,

any new progress on the build? And another question, which ESC's you will use with the NEU's? Can't wait to see the full layout!

Best regards,
Manuel

@ TotalPackage: I still don't get it :confused:

[RandyatBBY]

I will be getting back to the build soon, I have had other builds that needed a little of my time. the ESC's will be Schultz 40.160.

[TotalPackage]

I guess youre stuck with your european vernacular lol .Go get you a guide: Simple Eubonics for Europeans 3rd ed. All that knowledge. Just a dash of eubonics and he's toast:laugh: Im country get over it.:laugh:


Hello,


any new progress on the build? And another question, which ESC's you will use with the NEU's? Can't wait to see the full layout!

Best regards,
Manuel

@ TotalPackage: I still don't get it :confused:
you laid out those stats like we were supposed to be in devine awe . I was wondering about that big rig you rattled off. Whats the purpose of a 10000 dollar plus setup thats not the fastest? Just for the scale of it?

[TotalPackage]

:patriot: Anyway whats up with the build Randy?:patriot:

[TotalPackage]

Hey Randy read this:
I am new to fast electric boats ... I know speeds in the 40's is slow for this size boat, but I am having a problem with the flex shaft overheating. The first run was a bust ...the boat was filled with smoke, the teflon liner was in two pieces, and the flex shaft came out bent. The video is of run no. 2 where I re-straightened the shaft, and used a lighter lubricant in a new teflon liner and the temp at the low point in the bend was 162 degree F ..no smoke. I am wanting to try a ball bearing grooved thrust washers to see if that reduces the friction in the stuffing tube hence lower the damaging heat. Besides that the boat seems heavy at 19lbs but safe on my 5AH batteries in 2p with 10min run time.

[Jacked1]

Hey Randy read this:

Sounds like he isn't running with a gap between the strut and the drive dog and with the cable shortening under load it is in tension and pushes against the Teflon a lot more than at no load.

[RandyatBBY]

:patriot: Anyway whats up with the build Randy?:patriot:

I am all most done but other work has been getting in the way of finishing the build. Plus I am waiting for the second ESC.

[RandyatBBY]

Well the second ESC is hear and now I need some 5.5 bullets and I will be back on the build.

[eagle1]

Randy you sure your not from NC. Your like one of the nascar teams from this area that build some nasty stock cars. Keep up the good work and com manners.:thumbup1:
Semper Fi

[RandyatBBY]

I had a good day on this boat yesterday. Progress
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[RandyatBBY]

I got a little more done on the tunnel mountings for the Batteries Pictures later. Boat is progressing I will be test running soon.

[RandyatBBY]

Got the picture for the battery mounts in the center, now front motor battery mounts to be made out of CF plate.
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[RandyatBBY]

Installed the CF plates for the batteries.

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[RandyatBBY]

Well it is about done Just have the receiver and oiler tanks to do I think I will be making reservoir for each side. I wish I had more room then I could just put in fuel tanks on each side.

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[RandyatBBY]

Well packing all the batteries in to the boat, then fitting the ESC and the oilers has caused me to build a inner platform to put the ESC on over the center rear set of batteries. A ton of velcro was used ro make this convertible in a small space. Unbelievable this I considered this big boat to be small for the total equipment.
Hear is is with out the oilers and no reciever yet.
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Oilers in not every wire hooked up just a test fit. I am going to have to make a Styrene inner hatch I will form one tomorrow morning.
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[Boaterguy]

"but dont get too fly yall boys running neus too" Make sure you and others are not getting too Overconfident/arrogant running NEU motors. (this is my take on the slang, the original could chime in on any errors

[RandyatBBY]

"but dont get too fly yall boys running neus too" Make sure you and others are not getting too Overconfident/arrogant running NEU motors. (this is my take on the slang, the original could chime in on any errors

Please do not start that. I have not seen a post from TotalPackage in a long time. NO drama Please. :Sinking:

I will have a video on Monday with this setup of course I will be using smaller props as I go I will be running bigger ones.

[wparsons]

Man that's jammed full of gear!! The shot with the ESC beside the servo really puts it into perspective on how big the ESC's really are!

[Boaterguy]

Yeah those ESCS are monsters. Sorry about drama, I don't know much about what is going on so i will just keep quiet :spy:

[RandyatBBY]

Yeah those ESCS are monsters. Sorry about drama, I don't know much about what is going on so i will just keep quiet :spy:

Thank I did not mean for you not to comment, we are cool.

I try to enjoy my self while I am working some times I get in trouble having just too much fun. If no one responds to my post I feel hurt, Where is my violin!:tape:

[RandyatBBY]

Man that's jammed full of gear!! The shot with the ESC beside the servo really puts it into perspective on how big the ESC's really are!

It has taken me two weeks of thinking about it while working to figure out how to fit it all in.

[RandyatBBY]

I have the inner cowl done in white styrene and I am doing the first test fitting after I have it trimmed to size I will try the outer cowl fit to the inner cowl.
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[RandyatBBY]

Trimmed fitted and taped in place. I could make the inner cowl in clear of carbon fiber/fiberglass too.

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Outer cowl fitted, appears to work fine.
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I really love the wrap one more time a full shot.
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side view
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[Jacked1]

Are you going to run it before you send it out? It looks awesome! :thumbup1:

And I think TP is banned so no worries.

[RandyatBBY]

Are you going to run it before you send it out? It looks awesome! :thumbup1:

And I think TP is banned so no worries.

I am planning on checking it out in the pond before I send it out. Spent most of the day on little stuff, new switches, antenna mounts and prop work.

[Rumdog]

Nice work on that sub-hatch, Randy! That boat is going to absolutely SCREAM! I know guys are hitting 70 with a single 2215 in that hull.

[RandyatBBY]

Nice work on that sub-hatch, Randy! That boat is going to absolutely SCREAM! I know guys are hitting 70 with a single 2215 in that hull.
Thanks now that I have a mold I can do it in any material. i.e. for future builds

[millzee]

Any video's of this boat out there yet? I've just read through looking for pointers and I love this build, well done.:thumbup:

[RandyatBBY]

Any video's of this boat out there yet? I've just read through looking for pointers and I love this build, well done.:thumbup:

Nothing great, I ran it and there was only Damon and myself so I only got a short clip nothing good enough to show. Possibly next time out at Kaiser cove if it is not gone before I get back out to Fremont.

[eagle1]

Randy I cant believe you have it finish. You must have a good crew of boat builders over there. I'm still pushing to finish one boat. Keep up the good work.:beerchug:
Semper Fi

[RandyatBBY]

Randy I cant believe you have it finish. You must have a good crew of boat builders over there. I'm still pushing to finish one boat. Keep up the good work.:beerchug:
Semper Fi

Just my son, Myself and a part time helper. It is tough but I love it.


It is just waiting
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[Boaterguy]

That's foam on the nose right? you wouldn't want to damage this sexy beast

[RandyatBBY]

That's foam on the nose right? you wouldn't want to damage this sexy beast

Yes. I put foam on the tips to protect it. I love this boat! even though it is not mine. Respect and care for others stuff.

[Boaterguy]

well, you have to make sure it works, respect him and tell him how fast it goes before he gets it :)

[RandyatBBY]

well, you have to make sure it works, respect him and tell him how fast it goes before he gets it :)

You bet with out him and others I would be lost. I just have to have the weather and funds to go to Fremont and run it again. I really need a camera man the day and sleep the day before I go to run.

[RandyatBBY]

Well this is the last picture of the process on my end. fun build I wish I was not so chicken driving the boat but it was just not mine and I did what I needed to do.
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[circus162]

Randy, I'm going to be building a Conquest over the winter, and plan on using your build as a guide. Is there any advantage/disadvantage to using stinger drives instead of transom struts? Great build.
Thanks,
Rich

[RandyatBBY]

Randy, I'm going to be building a Conquest over the winter, and plan on using your build as a guide. Is there any advantage/disadvantage to using stinger drives instead of transom struts? Great build.
Thanks,
Rich

I went with the strut mount for strength. With a 10S2P set up and twins there was a lot of power to deal with. Stinger use the bottom of the over hang for strength side to side. You do not have that in the Conquest. I do not know all the setups in the world so there could be some I have not seen that are strong enough. this is what I liked and it works great.

[circus162]

Thanks for the input. I never thought about it that way, but it makes a lot of sense. I'll go with the struts.
Thanks again,
Rich

[RandyatBBY]

You ever get it built?

[circus162]

Yes Sir. Been playing with her for a couple of years. Very reliable pond runner. Thanks for asking.
Rich