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  • Avanti
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Nov 2007
    • 1280

    #1

    SV27 setup and speed

    Before I start let me say I know this should have stared at the begining (box stock boat), but I just got my GPS.

    Hull: blue printed (not complete but close), all hardware rerigged and siliconed.
    Prop: grimracer 42x55 two blade.
    Batteries: orien 7.2v V-MAX 3300mah 3" fwd of stock to set C/G at 8" fwd of transom.
    Water condition: moderate chop and wind blowing.
    Motor: ammo 36-50 2300kv
    ESC: stock
    Drive trim: -1 or 0 (somewhere inbetween)
    Tab position: 0

    This setup is pretty rock solid and went 35.4mph (good race set up in my opinion)

    I moved the batteries back to the stock position and blew the boat over backwards with no increase in speed.

    So I went to the otherside of the lake where there was cover from the wind providing smoother water. Batteries in stock position and same setup as above. The boat was pretty uncontrollable, I wish a had someone with a video camera there because I had a nice 20-25 foot prop ride (only the prop in the water, boat completely dry). However, the top speed was only 34.5mph

    I will be testing other props and also the stock motor this weekend. I will also be changing the set up a bit. plus I have some new 4200mah batteries to run.

    I am a little disapointed with the speed, but all my testing so far was just going off of other boats and guessing, so now the real testing can begin.

    Thanks, JL
    The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.
  • RCprince
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Jul 2007
    • 1637

    #2
    Avanti we run an ammo 2600 with a grim 45x68 we clocked it at 47.7 mph before she started the tail dance. But we only drag race also.
    Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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    • Avanti
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Nov 2007
      • 1280

      #3
      what batteries were you running prince?
      The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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      • Darin Jordan
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Apr 2007
        • 8335

        #4
        I would have to say that if your batteries are at all questionable, that's a good place to start...

        However, about 37 or so is what I would expect from an NiMH powered SV27 with that prop... Even though that motor has a greater KV than the stock motor, it does NOT have the torque, so you will lose something there...

        You should be able to make it faster, however... What are your temps??

        I ran mine with 4S1P 3300mah PolyRC 20C Lipos with an Octura X646 prop and otherwise bone stock and GPS'd it at 43mph... that's with the STOCK motor... But then, 4S Lipos have a higher loaded voltage that 12-cells, so there is a lot to be gained there...
        Darin E. Jordan - Renton, WA
        "Self-proclaimed skill-less leader in the hobby."

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        • Avanti
          Fast Electric Addict!
          • Nov 2007
          • 1280

          #5
          I did not check temps this was just a quick shake down run today to see where I was for a starting point. but the batteries and motor were pretty warm to the touch.

          I'm hoping to touch 40mph on the 4200mah
          I know my prop needs work too.
          I also want to make sure my drive strut is @ 0' with the keel.
          my current setup is great for stability but I know I can get more speed out of it and then go back to this set up for racing.

          thanks for the input Darin
          The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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          • Avanti
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Nov 2007
            • 1280

            #6
            no set up changes were made I ran with the trinity 4200mah mounted 3"s fwd of stock the boat went 37.1mph but was very unstable with the extra power. 40+ is right there I just have to tweak my setup and prop.
            The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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            • RCprince
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Jul 2007
              • 1637

              #7
              We were running 14 3600 nimhs We got 47.1 with 2-2's 3300 but the nimhs were more stable i guest weight she still had more..but ecame unstable
              Samuel Johnson - “An injustice anywhere is an injustice everywhere.” William Cooper "listen to everything, read everything, and believe nothing unless you can prove it in your own research!"

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              • ice329
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2007
                • 792

                #8
                Here is a short vid and a pic of one of my boats. Preped the boat and did a few mods, like cooling and drive stuff and added a M445 prop. If anyone is interested in the boat PM me its a new boat.

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                • Avanti
                  Fast Electric Addict!
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1280

                  #9
                  Same set up as above just swap out the prop for a 40x52/3
                  trinity 4200 7.2
                  41.6mph
                  the boat has more in it with this set up I still could not stay in the power, I will shift the weight further fwd tomorrow

                  but wow 40mph barrier Blown away I'm very Happy! (next stop 50mph)
                  The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                  • Avanti
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1280

                    #10
                    shifted the orien 3300s fwd 3.5" from stock got 37.7mph on a 40x52/3 grim
                    shifted the trinity 4200s 4.5" fwd of stock and got 42.1mph before it took a dunk and I had to grab the fishing pole.

                    I'm sure I can break 45 this weekend.
                    The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                    • obrien
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1264

                      #11
                      its getting better.

                      ice329. do you care to share any of your setup secrets and mods?

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                      • ice329
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 792

                        #12
                        There not my secrets... Grim Racer wrote up a very good set up page. I just do most of his things and a few of my own. I pull everything, Zpoxy wood, stand and inside seem on hull, I silicone all the hardware and adjust it. Mostly from grims page, slightly positive on the strut and same for the tabs. I like to add a full legnth tefon insert in the drive tube, A balaced/sharpened X642 or M445. OSE water jacket, open the water pickup a little, bigger ID tubing, correctly setting the radio. The hull can only handle so much speed, you cant win a race upside down. A great set of batterys are a good place to start. Here is grims page http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_47...tm.htm#4752309

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                        • Avanti
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1280

                          #13
                          right now I am tuning for top speed, not a race set up.
                          Later I will tune for racing, as I found out that with better batteries my current race setup is crap.
                          The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                          • obrien
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 1264

                            #14
                            thanks for the info. I don't have an sv, but I do like to know as much as I can.

                            how much are you wanting to see your boat for?

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                            • ice329
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 792

                              #15
                              I actually moved it onto my dresser...kinkda hopeing it dont sell. If it does great... if it dont great. Here is a link you can take a good look at the boat and all the phases of prep etc.
                              Last edited by ice329; 12-09-2007, 01:49 AM.

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