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sharkbite
09-14-2010, 05:06 PM
Need a little help. can i use my swordfish 120 on a Leopard 1774kv?
If not what can i use? The boat is 33" and it will be on 4s

Thank you

Diesel6401
09-14-2010, 05:11 PM
Need a little help. can i use my swordfish 120 on a Leopard 1774kv?
If not what can i use? The boat is 33" and it will be on 4s

Thank you

I will be running the same motor on a 29" cat on a seaking 120, should work fine just don't overprop it. Biggest difference is in the burst rating. The swordfish has a 150 amp burst rating and the seaking has a 240 amp burst rating.

Steven Vaccaro
09-16-2010, 10:55 AM
I'd be a bit skeptical of a 240 burst rating on a 120 esc.

Alfa Spirit
09-16-2010, 11:21 AM
Go for a Swordfish 240 or a Seaking V2 180A

Diesel6401
09-16-2010, 11:48 AM
I'd be a bit skeptical of a 240 burst rating on a 120 esc.

It seems like hobbywing doubles their constant rating to get their burst. I do agree with you though about being a crazy high burst. I just gave the information provided from the maker. I will never attempt to find how true their burst rating is, like I said I was just given what the manufactor listed it the esc at.

The 90s are rated @ 180 burst (v1 pictured) http://www.hobbywing.com/english/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=450

The 120s are rated @ 240 burst (v1 pictured) http://www.hobbywing.com/english/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=451

The 180s are rated @ 360 burst (v1 pictured) : http://www.hobbywing.com/english/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=452

You know the 1774 I bought from you Steve I can not find any amp ratings on the motor not even from leopards site. I can find every other motor except that KV rating.

I use a 180 with my leopard 2200 but the 120 with my 1774.

vasy
09-16-2010, 12:04 PM
Need a little help. can i use my swordfish 120 on a Leopard 1774kv?
If not what can i use? The boat is 33" and it will be on 4s

Thank you

So far I have about 50 runs on 120A Seaking with 2200kv leopard and all works great on 4s.

Steven Vaccaro
09-16-2010, 12:34 PM
It seems like hobbywing doubles their constant rating to get their burst. I do agree with you though about being a crazy high burst. I just gave the information provided from the maker. I will never attempt to find how true their burst rating is, like I said I was just given what the manufactor listed it the esc at.

The 90s are rated @ 180 burst (v1 pictured) http://www.hobbywing.com/english/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=450

The 120s are rated @ 240 burst (v1 pictured) http://www.hobbywing.com/english/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=451

The 180s are rated @ 360 burst (v1 pictured) : http://www.hobbywing.com/english/ArticleShow.asp?ArticleID=452

You know the 1774 I bought from you Steve I can not find any amp ratings on the motor not even from leopards site. I can find every other motor except that KV rating.

I use a 180 with my leopard 2200 but the 120 with my 1774.

I have about 3 spec sheets with varying watts and amps for the leopard motor ling. Its confusing at best.

Diesel6401
09-16-2010, 12:56 PM
I have about 3 spec sheets with varying watts and amps for the leopard motor ling. Its confusing at best.

Do you have that posted somewhere or just at your shop? Is it even worth being posted?

Steven Vaccaro
09-16-2010, 01:51 PM
Do you have that posted somewhere or just at your shop? Is it even worth being posted?

I havent posted because I'm not sure which the heck is correct.

Diesel6401
09-16-2010, 01:52 PM
I havent posted because I'm not sure which the heck is correct.

Hahaha Ok got ya.

m4a1usr
09-16-2010, 02:26 PM
I have run into the disparity too with reliable specs. Might be just because the distributors are not getting the manufacturers model numbers right or maybe some engineering data sheets require updating as production continues between old stock and new. Whos knows.

There is another issue coming soon as well. I just noticed a new Leopard line, but now being called Top Power. Same exact motors, different case color, different silk screening art. And those motor data sheets are off as well on some. Their version of the 5692 1090kv is labeled 5692 1060kv. Could be typos I guess.

Thats one reason I just purchased a KV meter. So I could determine a motors kv and see if the labeling is off. Call it peace of mind if nothing else.

John

Jeff Wohlt
09-16-2010, 02:31 PM
They change a couple numbers just so you can't track it being the same unit with different colors. Very common. It keeps you guessing and digging.

Steven Vaccaro
09-16-2010, 02:51 PM
I have run into the disparity too with reliable specs. Might be just because the distributors are not getting the manufacturers model numbers right or maybe some engineering data sheets require updating as production continues between old stock and new. Whos knows.

There is another issue coming soon as well. I just noticed a new Leopard line, but now being called Top Power. Same exact motors, different case color, different silk screening art. And those motor data sheets are off as well on some. Their version of the 5692 1090kv is labeled 5692 1060kv. Could be typos I guess.

Thats one reason I just purchased a KV meter. So I could determine a motors kv and see if the labeling is off. Call it peace of mind if nothing else.

John John there are a couple of different 5692 roughly 1000kv motors. One is a high amp motor, one is a lower amp model.

Also there are at ton of these showing up all over the place with different names, colors, case configuration and specs.

martin
09-16-2010, 03:38 PM
Is it better to have the higher or lower amp motor in the 5692 motor, Im looking at one to go in a DF 41" type hull.

Steven Vaccaro
09-16-2010, 03:58 PM
Is it better to have the higher or lower amp motor in the 5692 motor, Im looking at one to go in a DF 41" type hull.

Depends on your needs. I would personally use the low amp motors. They are easier on esc's. But someone that may be racing with a certain voltage constants may want the high amp motor,

sharkbite
09-16-2010, 04:08 PM
will the 1774 leopard do good in a DF 33 or the 2200? I will be runing 4s? do you thank i will hit 50:tongue_smilie:

Steven Vaccaro
09-16-2010, 04:19 PM
In my opinion the 2200 is to much for a sport running df33. The 1774 is better suited with longer runtimes. Mid to high 40's shouldn't be a problem at all.

sharkbite
09-16-2010, 04:32 PM
thanks steven. i ment the 2000 kv. sorry. dont know what one to get from you?

Diesel6401
09-16-2010, 05:41 PM
I have a 2200 in a DF33 copy, have not run it yet.

m4a1usr
09-16-2010, 07:17 PM
John there are a couple of different 5692 roughly 1000kv motors. One is a high amp motor, one is a lower amp model.

Also there are at ton of these showing up all over the place with different names, colors, case configuration and specs.

I noticed there seems to be a select offering of them offered from different distributors. And not all in the same winding. You can find a "D" winding from one guy and a "Y" winding from another. The kv is close but not exact. Whats puzzling is why doesnt Leopard send a motor data sheet like Neu does with each motor. That would clear things up immediately. Or even better why not have on their web site the motor spec's? Downloads for us users to access. But then Neu doesnt have them either so what the heck am I thinking!

John

sharkbite
09-17-2010, 11:20 PM
So what do you all thank? leopard 2000kv or 1774kv in a DF 33 on 4s and a SF 120 esc? Will be get the motor from steve next week:tongue_smilie:

westbeach
09-18-2010, 12:06 AM
Are you racing or sport running? The answer is clear, you need to decide what kind of running you want to do.


So what do you all thank? leopard 2000kv or 1774kv in a DF 33 on 4s and a SF 120 esc? Will be get the motor from steve next week:tongue_smilie:

sharkbite
09-18-2010, 07:20 AM
I thank this boat i will make for racing.

Steven Vaccaro
09-18-2010, 08:04 AM
The 2000kv motor for racing with a 150 or better esc.

sharkbite
09-18-2010, 08:17 AM
thanks Steve. I have a 150 amp esc i got from you.

JMSCARD
09-18-2010, 03:43 PM
2000kv or the 2200kv leopard for 4s... I myself would go with the 2200 and a seaking 180 esc... both of which OSE has.... well when in stock for the esc that is....