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cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:05 PM
Check out my website for all that ML Boatworks offers. Laser cut, birch plywood frame kits for the following :

Scale hydroplane kits in many different sizes
Outboard tunnel hulls/ kits
Sport hydroplane hulls/ kits
Wild Thing Mono's
Custom boat stands and many other new designs in the works!



WWW.MLBOATWORKSRC.COM (http://WWW.MLBOATWORKSRC.COM)

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:06 PM
1/16th Scale Miss Thriftway:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Executone%20Builds/IMGP1705.jpg


1/8th scale 8255 Executone Framing (Build thread in the hydro forum:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Executone%20Builds/IMGP1709.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Executone%20Builds/IMGP1744Large.jpg

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:07 PM
'74 U95 Framing:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1919.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1920.jpg

'80 Pay Pak Turbine:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1921.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1922.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1923.jpg

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:08 PM
'67 Bardahl Karelson Hull:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1924.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1925.jpg

And the '69 Pay Pak Outrigger hull

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1926.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1927.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1931.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP1930.jpg

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:09 PM
'82 Atlas/ '90 Oberto kit going out to customers:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP2009Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP2006Large.jpg

My '80 Bud Humpback. You can see the hatch framing, and nosing pieces off to the side for the kit:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP2012Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP2011Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/IMGP2010Large.jpg

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:10 PM
1/10th scale version of the 8255 "'82 Executone" framing kit. Its a nice little hull! You can see the size difference with it vs. the 1/8th scale 8255 in the background. Mike

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/8255%201-10th%20Scale/IMGP2021Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/8255%201-10th%20Scale/IMGP2022Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/8255%201-10th%20Scale/IMGP2023Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/8255%201-10th%20Scale/IMGP2024Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/8255%201-10th%20Scale/IMGP2025Large.jpg

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:11 PM
'88 Miller High Life/ 88 Circus Circus

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/MillerMLBoatworks/IMGP1791.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/MillerMLBoatworks/IMGP1792.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/MillerMLBoatworks/IMGP1793.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/MillerMLBoatworks/IMGP1794.jpg

Steven Vaccaro
08-26-2010, 02:22 PM
Mike some cool stuff here. Would you like to be added to the Unique products area?

cybercrxt
08-26-2010, 02:29 PM
Hey Steven,

I would actually like that. I tried doing that a few weeks ago, but it would not let me and I never got around to contacting you about it. If you want to just move this whole list over, that would be awesome! Thanks, Mike

TotalPackage
08-26-2010, 04:57 PM
I really wish youd do some cats.Money is money right?

KillerDave
08-27-2010, 04:58 PM
Wow! I've been working on my own design and the CAD side was the easy bit, sitting in-front of my scroll saw was a labour of live and it was lovin' long time!!!!

I am interested in the T4 though..... can you send me a price?????

hazegry
08-29-2010, 10:14 PM
For those that are wondering about the kits I saw Mike Executone and the framed up boat very very very nice his finished boat won best looking boat for the weekend at the IMPBA District 12 race this weekend. I will def own one of his hulls in the future.

cybercrxt
08-30-2010, 09:59 AM
Thanks Jason, sorry if I was not as social as I would have liked to be. I was stressed out over my P-spec tunnel. I had some opportunities to win some heats and let it slip away! You, Kent, Chuck, and Chili are all great guys, and hopefully will help grow the club with FE boats! Talk soon, Mike

hazegry
08-30-2010, 06:24 PM
you were fine man everyone was going crazy trying to get stuff going. hows that bent skeg lol

Diegoboy
08-30-2010, 09:25 PM
Mike,
Any chance the following will be added to the kit list? If so, consider one SOLD!

Thanks,
Danny

U-50 Spirit of the Navy 2008
171-H
Master Hull Roster# 96100


All your boats were simply awesome to see in person.

cybercrxt
08-31-2010, 08:30 AM
The skeg actually has the boat running better than ever!

Danny, I do not have that plan set. If you were wanting that hull, get the plans from Newton, and I can draw them up on CAD! Let me know, Mike

Diegoboy
08-31-2010, 08:50 AM
Mike, which sheets will you need?
171-H (http://www.newtonmarine.com/plan_details.php?prodId=462&category=5)

Also, which hatch would you recommend?

cybercrxt
08-31-2010, 09:06 AM
Danny, you will need the bulkhead and 3 view sheets for sure, and the paint sheet you will need just cause you will need it! haha. For cowlings, take a look at RCboatcompany.com as they may have one for that kit. I will check as well. Mike

cybercrxt
08-31-2010, 09:07 AM
http://www.rcboatcompany.com/SG1600C.html

Found it....^

Diegoboy
08-31-2010, 09:09 AM
Tell me where to ship the sheets, and they will be on the way to you.

Diegoboy
08-31-2010, 09:10 AM
Oh, and if Manny gets a case of the overwhelmies on the kit he won at the raffle, I'll buy it from him!!

cybercrxt
08-31-2010, 12:10 PM
PMing you now, Mike

hazegry
08-31-2010, 08:16 PM
well Danny if you go with a boat from Mike I guess I will have to jump in in a couple of months. I want a executone like the one he had there this weekend that thing was nice.

Diegoboy
08-31-2010, 08:23 PM
I just emailed Dick Loeb about the 2 hulls we talked about. I wasn't sure if you called him or not.

cybercrxt
09-08-2010, 01:02 PM
New list:

Finished Framing sets:

1) 101-A, 6740, ‘67 Bardahl and other “Karelson Hull‘s” 1/8th scale
2) 105-A, 5560P, ‘55 Thriftway 1/8th,1/10th,1/16th scale
3) 110-A, 6925, ‘69 Pride of Pay N Pak (Outrigger hull) 1/8th scale
4) 111-A, 6403, ‘64 Tahoo Miss 1/8th scale
5) 124-A, 7495, ‘74 U95 Turbine 1/8th scale
6) 132-A, 8012, ‘79-80 Miss Budweiser Humpback w/ custom hatch framing 1/8th scale
7) 132-A, 8012, '79-80 Miss Budweiser Humpback modified w/ centered engine well 1/8th scale
8) 135-A, 8025, ‘80-82 Turbine Pay N Pak 1/8th scale
9) 135-E, 8410, ‘86 Seven Eleven 1/8th scale
10) 137-A, 8200, ‘82 Atlas Van Lines (Weiblehaus Sponson Mod) 1/8th scale
11) 137-L, 8200, ‘90 Turbine Oberto (Weiblehaus Sponson Mod) 1/8th scale
12) 138-B, 8255, ‘82 Executone , Coors, Oberto, Speedy,etc. 1/8th,1/10th,GAS scale
13) 146-F, 8700, ‘88 Miller High Life/ Circus- Offset cowling 1/8th scale
14) 146-F, 8700, ‘88 Miller High Life/ Circus- Cowling adjusted to Center 1/8th scale
15) 149-B, 8701, ‘87-91 Miss Budweiser 1/8th Scale
16) 149-C, 8701, ’94 Miss Budweiser U-1 1/8th Scale
17) 156-D, 8808, ’92 Miss Tide 1/8th Scale
18) 156-E, 8808, ’97-02 LLUMAR 1/8th Scale 1/8th Scale
19) 158-A, 8700, ’89-90 Circus Circus 1/8th Scale
20) 158-D, 8700, ‘94 Smokin Joes 1/8th scale
21) 158-E, 8401, ’94 Miss Exide 1/8th Scale
22) 171-D, 9516, ’96 Miss E-lam Plus 1/8th scale
23) 176-A, 8806, ’91 Miss Madison 1/8th scale
24) 176-F, 8806, ‘96 Dewalt 1/8th scale

Plans being worked on in order of Completion (All 1/8th Scale for now):
1) 106-N, 6207, ‘75 Oberto and MANY others
2) 172-A, 9601, ‘01 Miss Bud T3 T5 T6
3) 172-B, 203, ‘04 Vacationville.com, Master Tire
4) 140-A, 5762, ‘60 Thriftway Too
5) 147-A, 8501, '85 Bubble Budweiser
6) 157-A, 8910, ’89 Winston Eagle Lobster
7) 164-A, 9401, ‘94 Miss Bud T4 (Will also be modifying to make the Peters and May U-37 hull)
8) 162-B, 9210.5, ‘93 Circus Twin Wing and others
9) 121-L, 6615, ‘66-68 My Gypsy

Ub Hauled
09-09-2010, 01:42 AM
4) 140-A, 5762, ‘60 Thriftway Too

6) 157-A, 8910, ’89 Winston Eagle Lobster



that's what I am talking about... ;)

hazegry
09-15-2010, 07:36 AM
Mike where does the U-787 fall into the list? Just curious

Diegoboy
09-15-2010, 09:14 AM
It's here:

22) 171-D, 9516, ’96 Miss E-lam Plus 1/8th scale

cybercrxt
09-15-2010, 09:17 AM
Yup, what he said! lol

cybercrxt
09-15-2010, 09:18 AM
Oh, and I am placing an order today, so if you guys want in, I need the payments! Mike

hazegry
09-15-2010, 09:38 AM
probably have to be on the next order mike

cybercrxt
09-15-2010, 09:51 AM
Thats fine, thanks for the update! Mike

Diegoboy
09-15-2010, 09:54 AM
Jason is in prep for a Vacation next week. Shall I send $ or wait with Jason??

cybercrxt
09-15-2010, 09:57 AM
Go ahead and send it and I will get it and get started on framing it! Mike

Diegoboy
09-15-2010, 10:05 AM
Paypal sent

cybercrxt
09-15-2010, 10:11 AM
Got it! I will keep ya updated! Mike

hazegry
09-15-2010, 08:53 PM
Mike I just paypaled you the money for the U-787 I cant wait that is one sick boat. I dont know why anyone would pick the spirit of the navy boat over it lol.
How much to paint that U-787?

cybercrxt
09-16-2010, 08:52 AM
I got it man! I will keep you guys updated! Mike

cybercrxt
09-16-2010, 08:53 AM
I dont know how much paint would run off hand. When I hear some paint codes from the guy working on the full size hull, I can tell ya. Mike

Diegoboy
09-16-2010, 10:10 AM
Mike,
I'm helping Jason with cowl selection for the U-787. Would you agree thet THIS (http://www.rcboatcompany.com/SG750C.html) is the one to use for the Boeing?

cybercrxt
09-16-2010, 10:17 AM
Yep, that is the Boeing cowling, and this is the Navy cowling:

http://www.rcboatcompany.com/SG1600C.html

cybercrxt
09-17-2010, 01:28 PM
List updated. 85 Bubble Bud added, with both standard and offset cowling, Mike

Diegoboy
09-18-2010, 10:51 PM
You sure are a busy guy Mike. Maybe you can spend some "down time" when Jason & I come down there.

electric
09-19-2010, 08:22 AM
Could someone give me a sense of what these kits cost? Just a price range for an 1/8 scale boat. Do these kits come with any instructions? Is there someowhere to look to see how to do the build? Just thinking over maybe doing one of these.

cybercrxt
09-19-2010, 08:42 AM
The kits range from $145-160 for the framing kits. For instructions, I recommend people get the Newton Marine.com plans for the boat you are wanting, especially if you are new to building an 1/8th scale. They will be well worth the money. Mike

unlimitedfan
09-19-2010, 01:24 PM
If you are new to building from plans, get Don Mock's videos at http://www.rcunlimiteds.org/ (under For Sale). They are VHS only, so you might have to pull that old unit out of the closet. However, these are great videos.

Rick

electric
09-20-2010, 09:51 PM
Thanks for the information, I will check it out.

jimbo--jones
09-23-2010, 08:41 PM
7) 164-A, 9401, ‘94 Miss Bud T4

Il be buying that one. What are you charging cybercrxt? Are you taking paypal or how is payment made?

waterotter
09-24-2010, 01:44 PM
Mike, So how do I go about ordering a kit my wallet is itching to spend.
I'm looking towards the 171-D. But am really liking the the Peters and May U-37 (164-A), when do you think this kit will be ready for purchase?
For us newbie builders could you let us know what is included in the kit?
I'm guessing it's just the framing, no skins and no cowling.
And is Paypal ok?

Diegoboy
09-24-2010, 02:02 PM
He has paypal & at least 2 of the 171 kits already spoken for.
His paypal is madaccord@hotmail.com.
You'll have to get with Mike on the cost

cybercrxt
09-24-2010, 02:12 PM
Waterrotter, The 171-D kit is available now. It costs $150 plus shipping, and judging by your Location, ON, you are in Ontario right? If so, you can add $25 towards shipping. I accept paypal, with the 3% fee, or you can mail me a check. Just let me know which way you want to pay, and I will PM you my info. Thanks, Mike

Also, these are just the framing kits. You will need to get your own sheeting and cowling.

waterotter
09-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Diegoboy, thanks for the info.
Do I just pm him to order?

waterotter
09-24-2010, 02:13 PM
Just refreshed my screen and I see the new info now

waterotter
09-24-2010, 02:16 PM
Mike, I will pm you shortly. thanks

cybercrxt
09-28-2010, 03:26 PM
New kits finished. '60 Thriftway Too, '85 Dominos Pizza, '75 Oberto, etc. Just check out the new list!

Finished Framing sets:

1) 101-A, 6740, ‘67 Bardahl and other “Karelson Hull‘s” 1/8th scale
2) 105-A, 5560P, ‘55 Thriftway 1/8th,1/10th,1/16th scale
3) 106-N, 6207, ‘75 Oberto and MANY others 1/8th scale
4) 110-A, 6925, ‘69 Pride of Pay N Pak (Outrigger hull) 1/8th scale
5) 111-A, 6403, ‘64 Tahoo Miss 1/8th scale
6) 124-A, 7495, ‘74 U95 Turbine 1/8th scale
7) 126-A, 7931, '79 Circus, '85 Dominos Pizza, '81 Air Force, Possibly '79-81 Squire Shop 1/8th scale
8) 132-A, 8012, ‘79-80 Miss Budweiser Humpback w/ custom hatch framing 1/8th scale
9) 132-A, 8012, '79-80 Miss Budweiser Humpback modified w/ centered engine well 1/8th scale
10) 135-A, 8025, ‘80-82 Turbine Pay N Pak 1/8th scale
11) 135-E, 8410, ‘86 Seven Eleven 1/8th scale
12) 137-A, 8200, ‘82 Atlas Van Lines (Weiblehaus Sponson Mod)1/8th scale
13) 137-L, 8200, ‘90 Turbine Oberto (Weiblehaus Sponson Mod) 1/8th scale
14) 138-B, 8255, ‘82 Executone , Coors, Oberto, Speedy,etc. 1/8th,1/10th,GAS scale
15) 140-A, 5762, ‘60 Thriftway Too 1/8 scale
16) 146-F, 8700, ‘88 Miller High Life/ Circus- Offset cowling 1/8th scale
17) 146-F, 8700, ‘88 Miller High Life/ Circus- Cowling adjusted to Center 1/8th scale
18) 147-A, 8501, '85 Bubble Budweiser- Standard Offset 1/8th scale
19) 147-A, 8501, '85 Bubble Budweiser-Centered engine well 1/8th scale
20) 149-B, 8701, ‘87-91 Miss Budweiser 1/8th Scale
21) 149-C, 8701, ’94 Miss Budweiser U-1 1/8th Scale
22) 156-D, 8808, ’92 Miss Tide 1/8th Scale
23) 156-E, 8808, ’97-02 LLUMAR 1/8th Scale
24) 158-A, 8700, ’89-90 Circus Circus 1/8th Scale
25) 158-D, 8700, ‘94 Smokin Joes 1/8th scale
26) 158-E, 8401, ’94 Miss Exide 1/8th Scale
27) 171-D, 9516, ’96 Miss E-lam Plus 1/8th scale
28) 176-A, 8806, ’91 Miss Madison 1/8th scale
29) 176-F, 8806, ‘96 Dewalt 1/8th scale

Plans being worked on in order of Completion (All 1/8th Scale for now):
1) 172-A, 9601, ‘01 Miss Bud T3 T5 T6
2) 172-B, 203, ‘04 Vacationville.com, Master Tire
3) 145-A, 8303, '83-84 Renault, '91 Edge
4) 134-A, 8031, '80 Circus Canard
5) 157-A, 8910, ’89 Winston Eagle Lobster
6) 164-A, 9401, ‘94 Miss Bud T4 (Will also be modifying to make the Peters and May U-37 hull)
7) 162-B, 9210.5, ‘93 Circus Twin Wing and others
8) 121-L, 6615, ‘66-68 My Gypsy

unlimitedfan
09-28-2010, 05:53 PM
BTW: 126-A does make the 79-81 Squire Shop. The builder (Norm Berg) was commissioned by both boat camps to make the same hull. The Squire boat was wood and aluminum while the Circus boat used wood, aluminum and a lot of Hexcel. The Squire was commissioned first but the Circus was completed first.

Interesting side note is that according to Berg, Bernie Little almost got the 2nd hull (not Circus). Bernie was impressed by the new Atlas hull and wanted a new boat himself. He asked Berg to build him one but didn't want to wait since the Squire was already started. Little went to Ron Jones and the rest is history.

Any guess on what the cost of a Norm Berg built hull was in 1979?

(Sorry Mike for the side note. I am a Circus Circus Hydro Nut and have researched a lot of their history).





Cost was $73,000

Rick

cybercrxt
09-30-2010, 11:18 AM
Actually, Thanks for the info! Cool stuff!!!

cybercrxt
10-07-2010, 10:04 PM
Well, got in a few more new frame kits today, so I wanted to share. I am really happy with the results of these. The 8501 '85 Bud is Bigbirds kit (packed and ready for you Mike) and the 7931 '85 Dominos/ '79 Squire/ '80 Circus is for Blueblaster. I will be building the '85 Dominos myself very soon. Take a look at the toy tabs (Dan Kramer's idea, Thanks Dan!) on the 7931 framing. I really want to start incorporating that on future frames. It really made the frame square up well and helped everything stay together while dry fitting. Enjoy! Mike

'85 Budweiser "Bubble Bud"
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0038.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0039.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0040.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0041.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0042.jpg

cybercrxt
10-07-2010, 10:04 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0043.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0044.jpg

cybercrxt
10-07-2010, 10:05 PM
and the '7931 (this frame has those toy tabs, you can see how it holds itself together!)

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0045.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0046.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0047.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0049.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0050.jpg

cybercrxt
10-07-2010, 10:06 PM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/framing/DSCF0051.jpg

cybercrxt
10-12-2010, 04:22 PM
I am extremely excited to say the Budweiser T6/ T5, Vacationville/Master Tire, Formula U-5 framing is complete. This is the most thought out kit yet, and should be one of the most impressive fitting kits I have done. I know I say that every time I do a new kit, but this was an extremely complex frame that needed a lot of work to get correct. It should be a builders dream. I know this is an extremely popular hull, so I am sure it will put a smile on someones face. My goal right now, is to get one for myself first, and frame it up, make sure its perfect in every way, then offer it for sale. This hull will be done not only in 1/8th scale, but I plan to offer 1/10th and GAS scale. More to come in the following weeks! Mike


Finished Framing sets:

1) 101-A, 6740, ‘67 Bardahl and other “Karelson Hull‘s” 1/8th scale
2) 105-A, 5560P, ‘55 Thriftway 1/8th,1/10th,1/16th scale
3) 106-N, 6207, ‘75 Oberto and MANY others 1/8th scale
4) 110-A, 6925, ‘69 Pride of Pay N Pak (Outrigger hull) 1/8th scale
5) 111-A, 6403, ‘64 Tahoo Miss 1/8th scale
6) 124-A, 7495, ‘74 U95 Turbine 1/8th scale
7) 126-A, 7931, '79 Circus, '85 Dominos Pizza, '81 Air Force, Possibly '79-81 Squire Shop 1/8th scale
8) 132-A, 8012, ‘79-80 Miss Budweiser Humpback w/ custom hatch framing 1/8th scale
9) 132-A, 8012, '79-80 Miss Budweiser Humpback modified w/ centered engine well 1/8th scale
10) 135-A, 8025, ‘80-82 Turbine Pay N Pak 1/8th scale
11) 135-E, 8410, ‘86 Seven Eleven 1/8th scale
12) 137-A, 8200, ‘82 Atlas Van Lines (Weiblehaus Sponson Mod)1/8th scale
13) 137-L, 8200, ‘90 Turbine Oberto (Weiblehaus Sponson Mod) 1/8th scale
14) 138-B, 8255, ‘82 Executone , Coors, Oberto, Speedy,etc. 1/8th,1/10th,GAS scale
15) 140-A, 5762, ‘60 Thriftway Too 1/8 scale
16) 146-F, 8700, ‘88 Miller High Life/ Circus- Offset cowling 1/8th scale
17) 146-F, 8700, ‘88 Miller High Life/ Circus- Cowling adjusted to Center 1/8th scale
18) 147-A, 8501, '85 Bubble Budweiser- Standard Offset 1/8th scale
19) 147-A, 8501, '85 Bubble Budweiser-Centered engine well 1/8th scale
20) 149-B, 8701, ‘87-91 Miss Budweiser 1/8th Scale
21) 149-C, 8701, ’94 Miss Budweiser U-1 1/8th Scale
22) 156-D, 8808, ’92 Miss Tide 1/8th Scale
23) 156-E, 8808, ’97-02 LLUMAR 1/8th Scale
24) 158-A, 8700, ’89-90 Circus Circus 1/8th Scale
25) 158-D, 8700, ‘94 Smokin Joes 1/8th scale
26) 158-E, 8401, ’94 Miss Exide 1/8th Scale
27) 171-D, 9516, ’96 Miss E-lam Plus 1/8th scale
28) 172-A, 9601, ‘01 Miss Bud T3 T5 T6 1/8th scale
29) 172-B, 203, ‘04 Vacationville.com, Master Tire 1/8th scale
30) 176-A, 8806, ’91 Miss Madison 1/8th scale
31) 176-F, 8806, ‘96 Dewalt 1/8th scale

Plans being worked on in order of Completion (All 1/8th Scale for now):
1) 145-A, 8303, '83-84 Renault, '91 Edge
2) 134-A, 8031, '80 Circus Canard
3) 157-A, 8910, ’89 Winston Eagle Lobster
4) 164-A, 9401, ‘94 Miss Bud T4 (Will also be modifying to make the Peters and May U-37 hull)
5) 162-B, 9210.5, ‘93 Circus Twin Wing and others
6) 121-L, 6615, ‘66-68 My Gypsy

Darin Jordan
10-12-2010, 04:41 PM
Mike, you are so firing me up to build one of these!

cybercrxt
10-12-2010, 04:48 PM
Darin,

If you had told me I would be doing all these frames 6 months ago, I would have laughed. I am personally so excited about these frames and the boats they make I can barely think straight! I wish I had the money and time to build all these boats. Its probably the most fulfilling thing I have ever had the opportunity to do! I do hope you get a kit cause I know you will like it! Mike

AlanN
10-12-2010, 04:52 PM
Mike, you are so firing me up to build one of these!

No doubt Darrin. I feel like tossing the Miss Miller, Miss US, Miss Corn Flakes and the unbuilt Muck hull just to make room for building one of Mikes.

cybercrxt
10-12-2010, 04:54 PM
My god, why would you want to toss a bunch of hulls!!!!!

Darin Jordan
10-12-2010, 05:08 PM
No doubt Darrin. I feel like tossing the Miss Miller, Miss US, Miss Corn Flakes and the unbuilt Muck hull just to make room for building one of Mikes.

Alan... just hang-em from the rafters like all the plane guys do! Decorate your shop with them!!

Darin Jordan
10-12-2010, 05:11 PM
Heck, some guys hang FULL sized ones from the rafters!

http://acrodesigns.com/gallery/data/24/1MrBud-1.jpg

JimClark
10-12-2010, 05:45 PM
You can toss hulls my way Alan


No doubt Darrin. I feel like tossing the Miss Miller, Miss US, Miss Corn Flakes and the unbuilt Muck hull just to make room for building one of Mikes.

AlanN
10-12-2010, 09:04 PM
My god, why would you want to toss a bunch of hulls!!!!!

'Cuz I have to keep walking around or over them!!! More seriously. I love wooden boats. Mine are all f/g or poly. Well, the Miller is wood.

I spent some time collecting what I have. The hulls are not going anywhere soon. But if I do shed a few I'll let you guys know 1st.

ps Darrin, If I hung them like your pic all the guts would fall out!:bounce:

tharmer
10-12-2010, 09:49 PM
What is "gas" scale? Can you do a frame in 1/7th? The selection of 1/7th FE hulls is pretty slim right now.
-t

JimClark
10-12-2010, 10:04 PM
Kind of a small market for 1/7th one small club running it and Jeff makes the majority of the hulls. A lot of work to make only a few hulls at best


What is "gas" scale? Can you do a frame in 1/7th? The selection of 1/7th FE hulls is pretty slim right now.
-t

tharmer
10-12-2010, 11:09 PM
I didn't know what was involved in making one of your kits. I was hoping it was just rescale the CNC machine.
-t

cybercrxt
10-13-2010, 10:48 AM
Well, here is the deal. I had some requests for the 1/6th scale FE framing, the 1/6.66 Gas (20% over 1/8th scale), 1/10th scale, and now apparently 1/7th scale.

I am now going to say that only 1/8th scale and 1/6.667th GAS scales will be offered.

The 1/6th FE scale, I have determined is so big that the framing crossmembers will be spaced just to far apart, and the minimal requests for it are just not worth the work.

The 1/10th FE scales, I have a couple kits for, but I doubt I am going to pursue any more of those anytime soon unless I have a personal need for one. They are not going to be competitive against the sport 40 hulls, so the minimal requests for them in 1/10th scale FE is just not worth it. I also hear this Jeff Campbell has a strong hold on the 1/10th scale market, so I am going to steer clear.

These requests have rapidly gotten out of control, and if I don't put a stop on it now, people are going to get pissed!

Now, with that said, if someone has to have a kit so bad that is not the two scales I want to offer (1/8th and 1/6.66th), they can pay for the upscale frame by the hour for my CAD time and whatever the kit costs, and I will do it. That is the only reasonable thing I can think of to get this under control. Hope this helps, and doesnt't hurt to much! Mike

tharmer
10-13-2010, 11:47 AM
I didn't mean to get you upset. Was just wondering about other sizes. Right now Jeff C has two versions of 1/7th shovel and two versions of Pickle. That's it. I've built a Squire but it would have been a much better boat if I'd used a framing kit like yours. A friend has built a turbine Oberto and these are the only two boats racing that are not Campbell hulls.

Your kits would let some of us (you're right, it is a very small group, maybe 25 boats all together) have a wider choice, especially in Pickle or Turbine versions. Do you have any data on the final weight of the 1/8th hulls?

It makes sense that you should charge more for any non-standard framing kit that you make on request. Even at that, you don't want to make so many one-of-a-kind's that you can't get your regular ones done. On the other hand, once a one-of-a-kind is done, you have a new frame in your inventory.

It's also quite a compliment for the way folks see your kits to want one for the classes they run. It's just a bother for you so you ought to get paid for it.

-terry

cybercrxt
10-13-2010, 12:02 PM
NO no, Please don't take it as upset. This has been something on my mind, and I was not sure what to do about it. What I would like to know tho is why are some doing 1/7th scale, and some doing 1/6th. I didn't even realize people were doing the 1/7th until today which really made my head spin. It really sounds odd that there are so many sizes. I wish everyone would put there heads together, pick one scale, and go with it. The cowlings would then be universal as the back and forth scales kind of mess that up. Right now, that back and forth size, and the fact that some run one direction, and some run the other, have just pushed me away from even working on these kits and focusing on the 1/8th.

I don't know if many know it, but up scaling, and down scaling is extremely time consuming. Not only do I have to figure out what size ply will work best, all that has to be incorporated in the cross zed. What I should have done, is drawn all the frames without slots, did all the scaling of the sizes, then put all the cutouts in, just didn't realize this was going to take off like it has!

I definately think I am going to stick to the GAS and 1/8th scale as standard kits, and if someone wants the other sizes, a fee will have to be figured out.

It does sound like Jeff Campbell has the market hold over there tho!

Sorry for sounding upset..more of just trying to figure out what to do! Mike

tharmer
10-13-2010, 12:11 PM
I hear you about all the different sized and classes. Some of the 1/6ths use the same Scorpion motor the 1/7ths do and we've invited them to race with us but so far, none have done so.

Here's a pic of my 1/7th Miss Technicolor

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w25/tharmer/Hydro/P1010033.jpg

cybercrxt
10-13-2010, 12:17 PM
Terry, What kind of speeds are you guys getting out of these hulls with the Scorpion motors? What size scorpion, and what esc's and lipo cells are you using? Let me know, Mike

tharmer
10-13-2010, 12:25 PM
Scorpion 4035-800 on 8s or 8s2p. Speeds in the very high 40's to very low 50's on Graupner K57 props (required). Weight is approximately 12-14 lbs. about 50 inches by 24 inches. Straight 3/16 drive with universial joint at strut...which is set about parallel to the bottom.

It's almost a perfect speed. Fast enough to be interesting and challanging, but not so fast as to be really hard to control. In addition, the Scorp outrunner makes a wonderful howl at about 21,000 rpm. They look and sound great and they are really scale boats.

Darin Jordan
10-13-2010, 12:27 PM
Terry, What kind of speeds are you guys getting out of these hulls with the Scorpion motors? What size scorpion, and what esc's and lipo cells are you using? Let me know, Mike

Mike... I've seen a couple of the 1/6ths run (Two of the Classic Thunder 1/10th scale guys have them) and they are easily into the 50's...

These things are HUGE! Very cool, but in my mind, 1/8th scales, on this same power system, just make more sense.

Keep in mind also, when considering doing these 1/7ths and 1/6ths... and the 1/10ths also... they turn to the LEFT, so all that goes along with that has to be reversed as well.

There are several of us here on the West Coast that are preparing to build 1/8th scale, NAMBA legal Scales over the winter/spring. We'll run them RCU/NAMBA style and turn to the right, and have a blast doing it.

cybercrxt
10-13-2010, 12:36 PM
Oh yeah, I know about the reverse direction. That is why it makes it really really tough to want to offer everything!!! lol. What hull are you thinking about doing Darin? Mike

tharmer
10-13-2010, 07:48 PM
Remember, Darrin, that's on a Graupner plastic prop. With a Metal prop add 10 to 15 mph.
I've heard from Brian about the 1/8th FE and I think I'll build one this winter. I'd appreciate any info you have about these.
-t

l

cybercrxt
10-13-2010, 07:59 PM
Yeah, that is all I do myself are 1/8th scale FE. 1527 1y Neu motor on 6S2P, or 1527 1.5y on 10S1P. Mike

tharmer
10-13-2010, 08:02 PM
Someone at the last 1/7th race said he saw one run and that it was scary fast. What speeds are you getting?
-t

raptor347
10-13-2010, 11:49 PM
Most of the guys I know running 1/8 FE are running in the low-mid 50's. Fast enough to be a challenge, but not to horridly destructive if you screw up. 8-10S on Neus, Plets and Lehners.

If my calcs are close, the scorpion on 8S1P should go 55 or so reliably in an 1/8 scale if set up properly.

cybercrxt
10-14-2010, 08:47 AM
Yeah, I would say mine is mid 50's and everything comes back almost cold! I can definately prop up and tune a lot more, just have not had the time! MIke

AlanN
10-14-2010, 11:26 AM
Yeah, that is all I do myself are 1/8th scale FE. 1527 1y Neu motor on 6S2P, or 1527 1.5y on 10S1P. Mike

Mike,

Do you run 2P for weight or draw or both? How big is the wheel you are spinning on that setup. I always wanted to try it.

cybercrxt
10-14-2010, 12:56 PM
Well, the '82 Executone, I am running 6s2p because the weight of the hull allows for the higher 1250KV setup. That hull, rtr is only about 13.5lbs so I can get away with it. This will be my heat boat, so the 2p should help out.

The Phil Thomas U10 Smokin Joes epoxy hull I am working on is physically a lot larger hull, so its getting the 850kv 1527 and 10s1p. I am doing 1p because there is not room for 2p. Plus, this boat will be for fun, not racing, so I don't need to worry about 6 laps.

I have also started an '85 Dominos Pizza. This is a really small hull compared to the others, so I am going to see if a 1717 Castle/ Neu 1580kv on 5s2p will work. Its another fun run boat, so I am not stressing 6 laps. Should be a fun boat.

I will be doing the T6 Bud as well, but finishing that hull is so far down the road, I will not choose power systems for a while.

I know, I know, seems like a lot of boats, but since I am the "frame keeper", doing many hulls is a lot easier for me to obtain. I will, at some point, have 20+ boats...if the wife doesn't care! HAHAHAHAHHA

cybercrxt
10-14-2010, 01:02 PM
'83-84 Renault is done. Also makes the '91 Edge.


Winston Lobster is next.....

waterotter
10-14-2010, 09:58 PM
Mike, do you know of a cowl thats available for the 83-84 renault, I believe it runs without the cowl but has one for when on display.

cybercrxt
10-15-2010, 09:25 PM
WR, I do not know if a cowling is available, I would check rcboatcompany for you, but I am working from my phone as I am out of town this weekend. I will check when I get back home and see, Mike

hazegry
10-16-2010, 04:36 PM
I hear you about all the different sized and classes. Some of the 1/6ths use the same Scorpion motor the 1/7ths do and we've invited them to race with us but so far, none have done so.

Here's a pic of my 1/7th Miss Technicolor

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w25/tharmer/Hydro/P1010033.jpg

very nice boat thanks for sharing

waterotter
10-16-2010, 08:05 PM
I checked with rcboatcompany and they do not have a cowl for the Renault.
Maybe someone out there knows where information is to scratch build one.

waterotter
10-19-2010, 08:48 PM
Mike, 171-D frame kit came in today, 7 days to Canada, not bad.
Pretty stoked to get started. Just need to figure out the assembly.
I may need to ask you questions later.

cybercrxt
10-20-2010, 08:58 AM
Glad it got there safe! Keep us updated, Mike

cybercrxt
10-22-2010, 03:45 PM
Here are some pics of Danny and Jasons 9516 frames. I am half way there. Hope to finish very soon:
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Woodstuff%20Tunnels/DSCF0100Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Woodstuff%20Tunnels/DSCF0098Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Woodstuff%20Tunnels/DSCF0099Large.jpg

waterotter
10-22-2010, 09:41 PM
Mike, As you know I'm building the same 9516 kit. I now have it taped together to see what I'm working with.
Few questions:
1. Does the 1/4" strips come with the kit?
2. What do I do with the two forward inner walls?
3. Bulkheads #6L & R, how are they attached?
4. Same with #1L & R.
Looks like I still need to buy the plans in order to finish the framing of the canopy area etc.
Otherwise the frames are a HUGE timesaver.

Diegoboy
10-22-2010, 09:49 PM
Very nice work Mike!!

hazegry
10-22-2010, 10:07 PM
yup yup cant wait danny if we are going to go before the 6th we are gonna have to go next weekend

Diegoboy
10-23-2010, 04:36 PM
Can't, working. it's either Sun, Mon, Tue, or the 6th or the 7th for me.

cybercrxt
10-25-2010, 03:56 PM
I talked to Jason, if you guys want to meet up in Elizabeth City I could probably bring them with me. I just need to get these stupid batten sticks in! They JUST shipped them out today. Once they arrive, I hope to finish up the other frame. Mike

hazegry
10-25-2010, 09:37 PM
mike take as long as you need I am in no hurry for it.

Diegoboy
10-26-2010, 07:30 AM
I can pick them both up in e-city. When will you be there Mike?

cybercrxt
10-26-2010, 11:15 AM
Just wanted let those know that have a kit ordered with me, they just arrived to my office today! Mike

hazegry
11-06-2010, 08:23 PM
Boat is great Mike wish we could have stayed longer hope you did well at the SAW event

waterotter
11-07-2010, 11:23 PM
Hey Mike, Was wondering if balsa or birch is better for the 1/4" stringers that link the bulheads.
Since birch doesn't bend as easily I thought it would put unnecessary stress, but is better for durability.
Your thoughts lease.

cybercrxt
11-08-2010, 08:37 AM
Hey, I use basswood sticks from nationalbalsa.com. Balsa sticks are so soft and can shatter with the stress these hulls will see. If the basswood doesn't bend, slot the underside so it can bend to the radius you need. Hope that helps! Mike

cybercrxt
11-11-2010, 01:40 PM
Thriftway Too in 1/6th scale and '95-96 T3 Budweiser 1/8th scale now finished. List updated on first page, Mike

cybercrxt
11-15-2010, 09:27 AM
Some pics of the T6 (Albert Lee Appliance) build. Build thread in the Scale forum on intlwaters. Mike


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2235Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2236Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2237Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2238Large.jpg

cybercrxt
11-15-2010, 09:27 AM
I also got the 8255 and Dominos Pizza cowl mold done this weekend, and got the first part pulled from it yesterday. As you can see with the first pic of my Executone, the cockpit is to far back and sloped to low so I had to come up with something better. With the new cowl, you can see the cockpit is more forward, and has a better front slope. Turned out really good! This cowling will be available for purchase as well for $70 shipped if anyone needs one. Enjoy, Mike

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2239Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2240Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2241Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2242Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2243Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/T6%20Framing/DSCF2244Large.jpg

cybercrxt
11-17-2010, 10:46 AM
'77 Atlas Van Lines "Blueblaster" is done!

duckbum
11-23-2010, 12:59 PM
Do you have a 10th scale (for FE) kit for the Bardahl Cabover?
Better yet, a 6th scale for Gas?

This is my ultimate fantasy boat!

Also, who could you recommend to build ARTR?

Thanks!

sailr
11-23-2010, 06:59 PM
Hi Mike. I still have the 1/10th scale 8255 kit that I got from you and decided not to build. If you run across anyone needing one, I would like to sell mine! Not trying to highjack your thread, just thought I'd make you aware of it.

cybercrxt
11-29-2010, 08:54 AM
Duckbum, I do not have a 1/10th scale Bardahl or GAS scale at this time. The 1/10th scales and GAS scales available are listed in the first post next to where it says 1/8th scale.

The sale is in full effect if anyone needs a kit! Mike

jimbo--jones
11-29-2010, 04:17 PM
Been Hangin out for that 164-A, 9401, ‘94 Miss Bud T4 kit of yours Mike. Hows that coming along?

cybercrxt
11-29-2010, 04:33 PM
Hey, Well, I have started on that kit, but not finished yet. I honestly have not been able to get anything drawn for a couple weeks. Been busy in the evenings with the holidays arriving and my own builds. Just keep your eyes on the thread as it WILL get done! Thanks, Mike

cybercrxt
12-06-2010, 10:07 PM
Winston Lobster added to the list!

cybercrxt
12-09-2010, 04:11 PM
16 HOURS OF DESIGN TIME, and the T4 '94 Budweiser is complete. This is by far the most complex kit yet, but very very complete. I honestly, do not recommend a first time builder even consider this kit! Mike

jimbo--jones
12-10-2010, 12:18 AM
Dammit now I'm pissed off. Im reading this 2mins after I just blew my money on a arowana 2 hull and hardware.
Ill pm you to get a quote on one of these T4's Mike.

cybercrxt
12-10-2010, 10:21 AM
PM replied

cybercrxt
12-16-2010, 04:57 PM
GAS scale winston Lobster is now ready! Mike

duckbum
12-16-2010, 05:20 PM
Any way to do this one?
It's a "chisel-nose" with Pay-pak type cowling...

Nobody knows much about the boat...much less can build one?

Thanks..

cybercrxt
12-20-2010, 01:35 PM
Any pics? Mike

Diegoboy
12-20-2010, 01:44 PM
http://www.jeffdunn.net/casper/bardahls.jpg

cybercrxt
12-20-2010, 01:48 PM
Looks like nothing more than a cowling change. I dont know who makes that cowling tho! But the hull is probably the same, at least in RC form, Mike

sailr
12-20-2010, 01:59 PM
that is not a chisel nose. It's a shovel nose, or round nose. Here is what a Chisel Nose looks like. Pretty rare.

cybercrxt
01-06-2011, 08:14 PM
Too the top! Lots of good things lined up for 2011! Mike

cybercrxt
01-07-2011, 03:49 PM
www.mlboatworksrc.com is now up and being updated!

cybercrxt
01-14-2011, 11:04 AM
More frames added, lots of GAS size hulls too! Mike

cybercrxt
01-19-2011, 03:47 PM
More updates and gas frames added. more 1/10th scales coming soon! Mike

cybercrxt
03-10-2011, 09:08 AM
List updated! Lots of new 1/10th scales and GAS scale frames!

daveives
03-25-2011, 07:39 PM
MY WINSTON EAGLE 1/8 SCALE BUILD EXPERIENCES (so far):

The laser-cut kit was well packed and sent using FedEx; it arrived in perfect shape. THANKS!!!

Other stuff I have had mailed USPS, Hong Kong EMS and FedEx have arrived in perfect shape. UPS has invaribily bashed recent and older large packages orders. At least the FedEx franchisees care about their customers, while UPS is just another job it seems. Thank you cybercrxt for using FedEx.

At first the cost seemed high, but it was well worth it since everything fit snugly with less than 2 minutes total of touch-up sanding - unbelievable tight fitting quality. I cannot imagine anyone trying to duplicate this by hand.

The plywood was marked the same as that sold by Midwest and by Superior Balsa. The Superior plywood at the recent WRAM shjow cost me slightly more than half of what the identical Midwest plywood cost at my LHS (who has now run out of it) The laser cut kit had one well executed oblong patch in its surface on the inside side of the boat in a non-critical structural area, otherwise it was perfect.

Some versions of the Winston Eagle Lobster boat have rear sponsons. They are not included in the kit. It would be nice to have a sub-kit for them.

I tried to get the laser cut pieces out with a razor blade but this not practical. Then I finally figured it out. The trick is to bend the part out one connection at a time by flexing the scrap/part connection until you hear a snap, then flex if the other way until it snaps again. This leaves very little to be sanded off.

It took a long time to piece together this 3d jigsaw puzzle, even though it is very well labelled. I then marked the pieces where they abutted with many different color markers, so a reassembly when gluing can be error-checked faster. When gluing the abutting heavy pieces supporting the sponsons together, temporarily insert stringers in the notches, clamp the pieces, then remove the stringers and clean the notches with Q-Tips so you will not need much sanding to assemble the stringers later.

For flotation I note that pink foam adds about 1 ounce for each 20 ounces of floataion capability, so I am going with compartments. The separate compartments include the sponsons, the wings connecting sponsons to fuselage, and multiple chambers in fuselage all tied together loosely with a kevlar or equivalent cord or shoelace. The sponson support wing individual compartments have also been made a single compartment by cutting holes in the center of the formers.

To enable safe air travel - to keep from breaking the compartments in the unpressurized cargo hold of an airplane in transit to a race, all compartments must be vented somehow. I have run a small tube from each compartment to a single compartment in the fuselage, which is vented thru a tube exiting the top of the cowl.

I also have installed a flush water pickup in the rear of each sponson to feed my "direct water injection" cooling system (search for the words in quotes for discussions of this).

The kit is not left-right symmetric, see the attached picture. I do not know if this is for prop torque or left-right turning reasons. Anyway, I built it according to the letter and number markings brunt very lightly in the wood.

The leading edge of the wings connecting the sponsons to the fuselage are built up from plywood layers glued together. I later realized that I should have used a solid wood piece for these which passes as a single 12" long bar through the hull for a little more strength with negligible weight addition (as long as it does not interfere with something inside the fuselage. There are some build pics at

http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=43482&st=75http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=43482&st=75

which show the two internal spars cut off and replaced by something looking like a bicycle spoke as another possible option. cybercrxt is known by spoonefcrx on the International Waters web site. The above url contains additional pictures not included in the OffshoreElectrics web site. Two other sites to check out are:

http://www.rumrunnerracing.com/feforums/showthread.php?t=31137&highlight=Winston
and
http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=17360&page=5&highlight=winston

I bought the cowl offered by www.RCBoatCompany.com. It is a high quality fiberglass two piece molding which weighs 10 ounces total. I intend to use it as a structural element, so the weight can be used for a beneficial purpose. But how do I get at the interior components for maintenance and/or replacement? The answer is that my fuselage access hatches will be from below. My cowl will be sealed by the top covering of the fuselage, making a single cowl compartment after cutting holes between the cowl pieces. By filling the cowl pieces with water and weighing the water, I figure that the cowl should provide about 167 ounces of floatation, less the 10 ounce cowl weight. The access from below looks better, as it hides all the tape.

I am going to try the Turginy 600 series of motors, if that does not work I will go to a proven Scorpion motor.

Rather than building the canards from wood I am going to use prefabricated symmetrical carbon fiber airfoil shaped beams otherwise known asa "helicopter blades". The front fixed one is going to be carried all the way through the sponsons to provide more strength to deal with possible collisions with a buoy.

That is where I am so far - but I have some questions which are posed here so that others involved in similar builds can benefit from the answers. I know that cybercxt will gladly answer any questions by phone, but posting them here can help others.

MY WINSTON EAGLE 1/8 SCALE QUESTIONS (for anyone to answer):

1) Where is the recommended center of gravity?

2) How much does your boat weigh so far, where is it's CG, is the drive system and rudder installed, and if the motor is installed where is it and about how much does it weigh? The answers will help me estimate were I have to place what to achieve a roughly accurate balance to hopefully avoid the need for adding lead weights.

3) Could someone measure their rear wing and supports so I can make my own from scratch. The same question goes for the front fixed and moveable canard chords.

4) What is the exhaust tube diameter, length, and exit angle relative to the fuselage?

cybercrxt
03-28-2011, 09:25 AM
Dave, I will address your questions in the next post. Wanna post pics of my finish Lobster via cut and paste while I have them ready.

More pics:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Winston%20Lobster/DSCF8049Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Winston%20Lobster/DSCF8050Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Winston%20Lobster/DSCF8053Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Winston%20Lobster/DSCF8055Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Winston%20Lobster/DSCF8051Large.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Winston%20Lobster/DSCF8054Large.jpg

cybercrxt
03-28-2011, 09:29 AM
MY WINSTON EAGLE 1/8 SCALE QUESTIONS (for anyone to answer):

1) Where is the recommended center of gravity? Leading edge, to middle of the skid fin.

2) How much does your boat weigh so far, where is it's CG, is the drive system and rudder installed, and if the motor is installed where is it and about how much does it weigh? The answers will help me estimate were I have to place what to achieve a roughly accurate balance to hopefully avoid the need for adding lead weights.

You need to install everything into the frame, and start working on balance before adding the top decks. Everyones build will be different. For mine, I had to add 20 ounces of lead in the tips (10 ounce in each tip). You may not need that much. It really depends on how much weight builds up towards the rear of the boat. My hull will probably come in around 16lbs rtr.

3) Could someone measure their rear wing and supports so I can make my own from scratch. The same question goes for the front fixed and moveable canard chords.

Just buy wings from Phil Thomas, for $60 shipped, its worth it. Front canards, go by the Newton plans!

4) What is the exhaust tube diameter, length, and exit angle relative to the fuselage?

3", you will need to place your cowling on the boat, and see how long you need it. Not sure about the exit angle, that is a little to technical for me! haha

hazegry
03-28-2011, 12:43 PM
wow mike that thing looks sweet! you sure do know how to build a nice boat

cybercrxt
04-13-2011, 04:25 PM
'80 bud humpback 1/8th scale and GAS scale now updated and done. Mike

Current list available on intlwaters:

http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=41052&st=0

cybercrxt
04-25-2011, 08:39 AM
Just wanted everyone to know I am still full force with selling these kits. Not many updates done lately, but everything is still happening. Check the first page of this thread for the complete lists! Mike

cybercrxt
06-26-2011, 12:51 PM
Just a little early summer bump! Mike

cybercrxt
08-01-2011, 09:20 PM
I would like to offer from 7-16-11 to 8-16-11 a summer sale on all of my Hydroplane frame kits in any scale. This is only on existing drawn kits as I am really short on drawing time right now. Below are the prices shipping in the continental USA. Overseas orders, please contact me via PM to figure out prices and shipping. Thanks, Mike, ML Boatworks, madaccord@hotmail.com, (252) 717-6282

1/10th scale, normal price $130 shipped, Sale price $110 shipped
1/8th scale, normal price $160 shipped, Sale price $130 shipped
GAS scale, normal price $190 shipped, Sale price $165 shipped

These prices do not include any sheeting kits I may have for a few of the kits. It is based on my typical frame kits! Tunnel boat kits do not apply to this sale.

Kit list is on my normal sale thread located here:

My link (http://www.intlwaters.com/index.php?showtopic=41052)

cybercrxt
10-20-2011, 12:19 AM
Building season is here, and the kit selection has gotten better and better. Shoot me an PM or email for the latest and greatest list of hydroplane kits in many scales. I have the list as a word document so you can print out and review. Thanks, Mike, madaccord@hotmail.com, (252) 717-6282

cybercrxt
12-11-2011, 05:21 PM
Sale is going on now. Check out my website, www.ml-boatworks.com

Thanks, Mike

vasek
01-14-2012, 04:09 AM
Did anybody built the Miss Renault from Mike's framing kit?

I just received the kit and the hull bottom profile does not match the Newton scale plans :(

Mike's kit has a rounded belly @ the front of the hull instead of sloping straight up from R3 as it should.

See pics. The rails can be cut, but the ribs, due to the lightning hole.... well I'm pi$$ed. Emailed Mike to see what he says.

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cybercrxt
01-14-2012, 05:10 AM
Yeah you emailed me in the middle of the night. Why don"t you give me time to discuss why your kit was purposely done that way to help it stay on the water at 60mph. Even David Newton at Newton Marine has me modify the bottom of his boats, as well as every other hydroplane racer cause they know the boats have to be modified these days as the boats are running15-20 mph faster than when those paper plans were drawn. I will explain this more in the morning. Till then, calm down. Emailing me vicious words is not to kind either. Mike

vasek
01-14-2012, 07:38 AM
Mike,
1) I hope I didn't wake you up emailing you 5 AM ;) as you well know I am in Europe, so there's a time difference...
but I was never awakened by an email myself, so maybe call a repairman for your PC

2) When you advertise a kit for a Renault '83 boat, I don't think you have the "artistic" licence to change a basic design parametr,
like the bottom profile of a hydro to this extent and still call it Renault '83. Further more, I told you I was building from a Newton 1/8 plan, so if you knew about these MAJOR mods, you should have told me so before ordering. Just plain logic.

3) I paid $200 for your kit (including shipping/ customs) so do not be surprised if I am a little disturbed when I get 25% of the
ply pieces the WRONG SHAPE!

4) Your mods may not be the better than original (not my words) as it could create more lift than the actual design. All Renault Hydro
builds I have seen have the flat bottom witha change of angle of attack @ Rib 3 as per the Newton plans. See pic
Let us not forget, this is NOT a rigger but a SCALE boat, thus my huge surprise when i received the parts.

5) Also, as I told you in my email, your parts are mislabeled RIGHT and LEFT as the offset of the engine/cockpit is to the LEFT of the boat and NOT to the RIGHT as labeled on your cut outs. ALL the Renault '83 models I've seen are like this.

Finally, I just stated my surprise in my email to you at the wrong shape of the rails & ribs no4 through n06 which makes the majority
of large pieces in you kit.

PLEASE, address these issues here, as you advertise your kits he, so I think it's fair.

P.S. I offered you 2 options to settle this. 1) send me the correct parts as per Newton plans or 2) give me a rebate of some sort
and I will make my replacement parts myself. What is unreasonable about that?

Cheers, Vasek
68095

cybercrxt
01-14-2012, 09:10 AM
From the first post on the first page of this thread:


ML Boatworks
Laser cut Scale Hydroplane framing kits for over 40 different hulls. Offering 1/8th scale as the base scale with other sizes coming as time permits. These kits are based on the Newton drawings with improvements being made to ensure correct fitment of every frame, crossing point, and modifications being made to the ride surface as required.


First, I have been offering these kits for almost 2 years now, and not once have I had someone come at me like this. I should have known this would happen seeing is you complete raged at Mike Mcknight, warning him that if he did not ship your decal set out by January 9th that he would contact paypal. You came after the best decal maker in the country for scale boats because you were to impatient to wait like everyone else that gets a decal set from him. And the funny thing is, you had not even received your frame kit yet!

Second, Read the first paragraph, letting every buyer know their kits will have modifications to the ride surface. Looks like you failed to read that, or where to impatient to ask????

Third, All of the other buyers WANT, and need the modifications like this done to the bottom of their hulls. Over 200 frame kits have been put out there, and you sir are the absolute FIRST to complain that GOOD design additions were used. The only other complaint I had about a frame kit is when I went DIRECTLY from the Newton plans as the buyer knew the boat would fly like a kite..and it was very similar to how you want you kit done. I have built, and ran a hull similar to the way you want your kit done, and it turns into a kite, plain and simple. I have had some of the most top known racers in the country give me their info on great hull design, and shown me how critical a change such as this is. The thing that is obvious you do not understand about the Newton plans, are ones like the Renault were drawn over 20 years ago in some cases when engine power was WAY lower, and brushless motors were not even around. The boats needed more lift, hence the huge attack angle like the Renault Newton plans to help the lower powered motors get the boats moving to the 40-45mph speeds they were traveling. Now that engines are so much stronger, and brushless motors are leading the way, 60mph speeds are not uncommon, which makes old design habits like on those Newton plans obsolete. You seem to think the Newton sheet is Gospel and is the only way a boat can be built. The NAMBA and IMPBA rule book says quite the opposite. The main thing the rule book says is follow the Master hull roster for length, width, afterplane length, etc. Bottoms of the boats, as long as they are not doing some odd thing that completely changes it from being a hydroplane is perfectly legal. The funny thing is the Son of the Man who drew up that very Renualt plan set, the Late Roger Newton, calls me to discuss the changes he wants in the bottom of the boat because EVEN HE KNOWS the plans that were drawn 20 years ago have to get these improvements to work with todays power systems. How more real can you get than that??????

Last, since I knew how you were attacking Mike Mcknight for no reason at all and how you emailed me without even giving me some time to reply before rushing on here and talking about how pissed you were with your purchase, and the fact that a disclaimer was indeed posted on the first page in the first post, I see I have done nothing wrong. Everything with your hull is perfectly legal, and a performance enhancer. I am usually a very generous person, heck if you had emailed nicely wanting to know the reasoning for the changes, instead of threatened me in your email, I would have possibly drawn up those frames for you and shipped them to you at COST, but your attitude and obvious anger have forced me from wanting to go out of my way like I normally do for a customer. If you have anything else you need to discuss, please do so in an email as everyone here knows my work, all 200 plus buyers know that what I do helps the boat, and does not hurt it. And for that matter, the changes you want to do, are simple enough to modify yourself if you still, even after reasons have been laid out, feel the need to do so.


OH, one other thing, seeing as FE 1/8th scales are my choice as well, that modification I made to your hull, will also allow you to put the motor and batteries further forward, hence making your center of gravity BETTER. Try stuffing all that equipment into the original design, and get the center of gravity to 1" behind the sponson heel. But I am sure you already knew that! Mike

cybercrxt
01-14-2012, 09:14 AM
Oh, and one more thing I forgot. The parts are not mislabeled from left to right. Because as RC boaters, we run in a clockwise manner, not counterclockwise like the full size hulls, changing the offset to the inside sponson is actually a very very common practice, hence why your kit was modified that way. Yes, Roger Newton might have drawn yours to the outside sponson, but I have about 60 of the Newton plans on my computer, and Roger went back and forth to each side with no set pattern of correctness, so please do not throw that at me either. Its pretty common practice. Mike

cybercrxt
01-14-2012, 09:21 AM
Oh, and here is what happens when the bottom of a scale hull is set up correctly to help reduce lift:


http://youtu.be/KzDhZh92Lo4

vasek
01-14-2012, 11:51 AM
Mike, I'm not going to argue with you, because it seems like a waste of my time . I will mention thought that in the definition of "riding surfaces" you would have hard time finding the bottom of a Hydro hull.... now modding riding pads, I would understand. But beyond that...

Also switching offset sides for a scale boat is NOT standard either, you would have a hard time finding "reversed" scale graphics for it.

If you were such an expert as you pretend to be, you would offer a choice of heavily modded/ non modded sets. With the CAD files it would be so easy to do. And yes the batteries are a pain to fit in the original design, but that's what separates the man from the boys in this hobby ;)

I wish you luck with your business, but you won't get any more orders from me or other club members over here.

Oh one more thing, I would love to see that boat in the vid close up & underneath ;)

V.

vasek
01-14-2012, 12:24 PM
I believe this is your boat 44.178 m/h
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8CU0vXo8sE&feature=related

cybercrxt
01-14-2012, 12:26 PM
Why would I offer a kit that is unmodified and is proven inferior to the updated kits. That makes no sense. Why would anyone even want that. You are the FIRST one that has ever questioned the changes, out of over 200 sales, some to the worlds best scale racers...must be a reason why I am the expert I pretend to be. You know what, I'm done. Your cheap shots are getting old quick. Your negative, derogatory comments, and attitude are why I refuse to even entertain this any longer...I'm Done.

cybercrxt
01-14-2012, 12:29 PM
Yeah, That is my boat, it was an outboard tunnel record for IMPBA 2s lipo class. I currently do not hold that record as it was pushed up to 53mph and I have not pursued it. I also hold the P, Q, S, and T with my teammate in Outboard tunnel. So what of it?

7 Current IMPBA Records, 11 IMPBA Records Held
Current IMPBA N-O/B Tunnel 1/3 mile World Record Holder (Luszcz)
Current IMPBA P-O/B Tunnel- SAW 68.99mph (Team Loeb/Luszcz)
Current IMPBA Q-O/B Tunnel- SAW 68.80mph, 1/3 & 1/4 mile World Record Holder (Team Loeb/Luszcz)
Current IMPBA S-O/B Tunnel- SAW 57.79mph (Team Loeb/Luszcz)
Current IMPBA T-O/B Tunnel- SAW 67.12mph (Team Loeb/Luszcz)
IMPBA 70 MPH TUNNEL CLUB, P-O/B tunnel One way pass 71.29mph
IMPBA 70 MPH TUNNEL CLUB, Q-O/B Tunnel One way pass 72.47mph
IMPBA 70 MPH TUNNEL CLUB, T-O/B Tunnel One way pass 73.289mph

Diegoboy
01-14-2012, 12:52 PM
Vasek,
If you wanted the newton plans verbatim, why did you even order a kit that was clearly modified to run properly?
It is obvious that you were NOT mislead by Mike, rather in your excitement of getting the kit laser cut, you failed to read the details of what you were getting. Remember that an error on YOUR part does not make a fault of someone else, so there is no call for attacking a member of OSE for the sake of YOUR mistake.

cybercrxt
01-16-2012, 08:35 AM
Ok, so I am seeing this guy is posting slander everywhere about this kit. Found it in Cyberhoops thread on RC Groups (Thanks for letting me know Jim C.), and on RC Universe. I also just found this from 2007 where he ragged on Roger Newton publicly. This guy has an anger problem obviously.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6787288/anchors_6787288/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#6787288

cybercrxt
01-16-2012, 08:47 AM
Yet another thread. He obvious HATES Rc, so I wonder why does he even involve himself with it?

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_8761371/anchors_10906706/mpage_2/key_/anchor/tm.htm#10906706

don ferrette
01-16-2012, 10:55 AM
Mike, I'm not going to argue with you, because it seems like a waste of my time . I will mention thought that in the definition of "riding surfaces" you would have hard time finding the bottom of a Hydro hull.... now modding riding pads, I would understand. But beyond that...

Also switching offset sides for a scale boat is NOT standard either, you would have a hard time finding "reversed" scale graphics for it.

If you were such an expert as you pretend to be, you would offer a choice of heavily modded/ non modded sets. With the CAD files it would be so easy to do. And yes the batteries are a pain to fit in the original design, but that's what separates the man from the boys in this hobby ;)

I wish you luck with your business, but you won't get any more orders from me or other club members over here.

Oh one more thing, I would love to see that boat in the vid close up & underneath ;)

V.Are you for real?????? First off you DO realize that all of the plans that Roger Newton drew up are NOT exact scale duplication of the real boats. Roger, rest his soul, made changes to the plans to make the models work better with the available power when those drawings were made. Second, most of the drawings Roger did are 20 or 30 years old and with the power we now have available if you build to those plans the boat WILL NOT RUN RIGHT!!! Roger's son David along with other EXPERIENCED SCALE RACERS have been working closely with Mike to make the changes to Roger's plans to make the kits perform correctly with today's greatly improved motors. And BTW- "reversed" graphics have been done FOR YEARS because we race in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION from the real boats and mirror image the models to reflect that fact.

Here's a suggestion for YOU- build the boat and RUN it before shooting off your pie hole telling Mike how "wrong" his boats are. :bash:

vasek
01-17-2012, 06:03 AM
Mike, stop screaming left & right. Just post here some pictures & a vid of YOUR RENAULT '83 prototype and I'll eat my words.

I'm sure you have some documentation about your Renault boat doing a 70 m/h run, RIGHT?

siberianhusky
01-17-2012, 08:16 AM
Mike is a straight up guy and it isn't his fault you didn't pay attention to what you were buying, couldn't be any clearer that these kits have been modified over the original Newton plans, Big assed disclaimer about it.
I've built 3 boats from the Newton plans, with todays power as many, many people have pointed out you have to make some changes to the hull if you want it to run well.
My next one will be one of Mikes kits. I've seen enough video of his designs running to KNOW they run better than 30 year old converted nitro plans.
Maybe in the future you should actually pay attention to what you are buying instead of trying to blame somebody else for your issues that you yourself caused.
If you had paid attention you would have realized some kits are offered for both clockwise and counter clockwise running and not in your opinion "wrong"
I must say in 16 posts you've created quite the name for yourself. Good luck, I think you'll need it!
You've had some of the best racers around trying to explain why the changes were made to the kits and yet you're convinced you know better. Don't think there is much hope, you have already decided EVERYBODY but you is wrong.

cybercrxt
01-17-2012, 08:28 AM
Great post Siberianhusky, I have met crack heads that make more sence than this guy. He is looking for a free kit is what he is doing. I have seen his type before. He went around on multiple sites badmouthing before even awaiting my email reply. That, to me, proves he is looking for something free. Takes one to ruin the positive things these kits do. What a shame. Mike

Mike McKnight
01-17-2012, 10:17 AM
I thought it was just me this guy was hassling! This guy is a real piece of work. I think he lives to complain. He orders a set of graphics from me for this boat and is upset because I don't send them out practically the day he orders them. I told him right from the get go that I had to rework some elements and that it was going to take a while. I have a 2-3 week backlog usually anyway and that is without having to stop down and draw for a while. So during the holidays when I and the rest of the world pretty much shut down he is still emailing me wanting to know when I wil ship. Now I see he didn't even have the boat kit yet?! Are you kidding me?! He emails me on 1/3 and threatens to file a PayPal dispute if I didn't ship by 1/9. So rather than put up with his garbage anymore I refunded his money THAT DAY! I won't be threatened by a guy like this especially when he doesn't even have the boat yet! Now I see he is hassling Mike too? Have a nice day George....

Grazacind
02-05-2012, 02:38 AM
Mike sorry to hear about these dramas you are having with this clown. Just remember empty vessels make the most noise.

On another note do you do a scale version of a 26' Lauterbach. I would like to put together a scale of a boat in Qld called Midnight Miss.

Here is a couple vids of the pretty lady running. Sadly the driver Graham lost his brother recently in a hydro accident and has given up hydro racing. Be nice to see a little miss run around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvZpjEVuIM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAt0eypsf7Q

Cheers Andrew

cybercrxt
02-05-2012, 02:28 PM
Hey Andrew,

I actually have a great set of Lauterbach plans I am working off of so I can off a kit. Right now, it is kinda on hold as I finish up some other CAD drawings there were ahead of this one. I will put you on my list of contacts so when I do get it done, I can get you one! Thanks, talk soon, Mike

Grazacind
02-05-2012, 03:38 PM
Cheers Mike thanks very much mate.

cybercrxt
02-06-2012, 06:27 PM
I finished up the T6 Bud 1/10th scale kit today. This kit makes most of the modern hulls running today. Its offered in counterclockwise and clockwise. Mike

cybercrxt
02-13-2012, 09:41 AM
First page post fully updated! www.ml-boatworks.com

magnum500sw
09-18-2012, 04:24 PM
got my other t6 from you the other day . in a timely mannor i might add . so far this is my third and see no end in sight . never mind the one who complains so much ,anyone who has dealt with you knows your product is good . i`m a return customer for a reason and will remain that for some time . i`m sure many on here and on other sites will remain that way no matter what one individual complains about .
jay

i know it was a while ago but i fealt i had to say something , plus this thread needed to wake up

cybercrxt
09-18-2012, 06:48 PM
Thanks Jay, Glad you are a happy customer. It is very nice to hear that every once in a while! Take care! Mike

Paul21
10-29-2012, 11:52 PM
Hi question would u have a kit 1/10 miss cuircuss similar to the 1/8 circus circus as I like the t6 or t4 but like the cowl from circus. Guess im asling if u would have 1/10 kit that has the tabs guess it called on rear sides ( pads) but use the dumas shaped circus cowl if so how much went to site say under construction tks

JimClark
10-30-2012, 12:14 AM
Paul read post number 163


Hi question would u have a kit 1/10 miss cuircuss similar to the 1/8 circus circus as I like the t6 or t4 but like the cowl from circus. Guess im asling if u would have 1/10 kit that has the tabs guess it called on rear sides ( pads) but use the dumas shaped circus cowl if so how much went to site say under construction tks

cybercrxt
10-30-2012, 01:48 PM
Paul, I have the T6 in 1/10th scale. It makes most of the modern hydros, however the true Circus Circus frame I do not have in 1/10th scale yet. Let me know if the T6 will suit your needs. Mike

JimClark
10-30-2012, 10:39 PM
Hey Mike when you get the Lauterbach done let me know also. i love that hull style

monojeff
10-31-2012, 02:17 AM
Jim you going to build a gas boat?
Or scale it down?

I'm loving the big scale gas boats!

JimClark
10-31-2012, 02:36 AM
definately not gas just love the hull

cybercrxt
11-05-2012, 10:56 AM
OK, Its sale time again, and this year, I am doing all I can to get people into scale boating. The gas scale class is growing, and I want to get more people into it, so I am doing a very special price on the gas class framing kits. The below items are what I am offering for sale this year from November 5th until December 25th. I am doing this a month early as I realize in the past, most people want to get their builds started now, not after Thanksgiving! So, here is what we have:
All prices below are for continental USA purchases. If you are outside of the USA, or in Hawaii/Alaska, you will need to contact me for shipping quotes.

1/10th scale hydro kits (clockwise and counter clockwise) $105 shipped
1/8th scale hydro kits (clockwise) $130 shipped
Gas scale hydro kits (clockwise) $160 shipped

Please contact me via jamesmluszcz@hotmail.com. Some of you may still have my madaccord@hotmail.com email, please just email me at the first as that is my dedicated ML Boatworks account now. This sale does not apply for any of the Sport hydroplane kits. Please visit my website, www.ml-boatworks.com to see what kits are currently available. I do not have the time at the moment to draw up new designs, so please choose from the available kits on the list! Thanks, Mike Luszcz, ML Boatworks

cybercrxt
04-11-2013, 01:05 PM
Just pushing this up to the top. Its been a while. Check out www.ml-boatworks.com to see all that is now offered. There is something for everyone! Mike

cybercrxt
06-27-2013, 10:43 AM
OK, so I have decided I am going to attempt building for customers again. I am willing to build the GP series sport hydros, SX sport hydro, The PX/NX300, PX335, QX400 tunnels, and the KL350 kneeler o/b hydroplane. Just contact me with questions or prices and I will see what I can do! Thanks, Mike, www.ml-boatworks.com

Grazacind
07-20-2013, 10:35 PM
Here is some footage of a Lauterbach in action at Bundaberg, Queensland, Australia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFvZpjEVuIM

The team is racing in the US at the moment. If you see them say hello they are great people.

mgcrimson
08-03-2013, 09:14 PM
Hi Mike, been thinking here lately about building one of your 1/10 scale hydro's. I really like the Newton 164-A/MHR 9401, '94 Miss Bud T4 U-1 and seen where you only offer it in the 1/8 scale on your site. Is it also available in the 1/10 scale?

Thanks
Mike

cybercrxt
08-07-2013, 11:00 PM
Mike, just noticed this post. I do not have the T4 in 1/10th scale. Sorry! Mike

cybercrxt
11-27-2013, 11:05 AM
Lots of new items on the new website. Check them out! www.mlboatworksrc.com

cybercrxt
12-02-2013, 03:56 PM
NEW ITEM!!!

1/8th Scale Hydroplane kit!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Hydroplane%20Trailer/HydroTrailer1_zps7e2deb3d.jpg


Pic of prototype kit...Final kit has toy tabing, and uses layered plywood for the tilt part of the trailer!
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Hydroplane%20Trailer/DSCF3337_zps080eb83c.jpg

cybercrxt
12-03-2013, 03:15 PM
Hi Everyone,

This is my first installment of the "hopefully" monthly newsletter.

First, I would like to say thank you for your support of ML Boatworks. I
recognize a lot of the names on my mailing list! The site has had over
42,000 hits since it went online on October 28th. This has pushed the new
domain name up to the top of Google and has eased the transition. While I
have not mentioned it, you can also access www.mlboatworksrc.com by using
www.woodrcboatkits.com. I am hoping that name will help guide wood boat
builders to the site.

Second, if you have completed your build, or have cool build pics, feel free
to email them to me at jamesmluszcz@hotmail.com, and I will try to add them
to the website under the hull catagory.

And Finally, I would like to mention some new products on the website, and
coming soon.

1) The 1/8th scale Hydroplane trailer is now finished and ready for cutting.
A lot of people have asked for it for over 2 years, and its finally done.

2) I was very fortunate recently. John Finch, designer of the 32" Wild Thing
Vee bottom Mono hull has given ML Boatworks rights to create a laser cut
kit! This is a very well known, and tested hull, and should be a great
addition. It will be available as the original 32" Nitro, and then I am
adding a 32" FE, and 36" FE version.

3) I now offer raw, uncut plywood and basswood sticks so Scale Hydroplane
kit customers can add these items to their order to ultimately save on
shipping costs by purchasing all items though one online source.

4) I was contacted by Glenn Quarles of Nova Rossi last month and he is
finalizing the testing on his .12 size "Texan" rigger, and plans to send the
hull to me to make it into a kit form and will be offered on the website.

5) The GSX480 gas sport hydroplane is close to completion and initial
testing. Dick Loeb, Dist 12 IMPBA member, and president of ODMBA in Suffolk,
VA is doing the rigging, and testing. I am finalizing the cowling plug this
week, and should begin the mold process next week. I hope to have this kit
ready for release by the first of the year.

6) Anthony Marquart of Charlotte, NC worked with me on 31" Sport Hydroplane
utilizing the ML Boatworks GP cowling/ center section shape, with his own
spin on sponson design. This kit, and the GSX480 both share the first "Truss
System" center section framing. It is truly revolutionary as it allows for a
much wider engine well, and higher overall strength! This kit is now
available in the Sport Hydroplane section, and is built specifically for .21
nitro engines. It is called the AJM21.

I hope you all enjoy your holidays, and hope to talk to you all soon!

Mike Luszcz, ML Boatworks

don ferrette
12-03-2013, 05:50 PM
Thanks to Mike's efforts people are BUILDING again letting the inner modeler get out! :thumbup1:

These kits are superbly made and will yield a first rate model for those who build them. I recently completed my ML Boatworks 9516 Miss Elam and just finished (and tested on Sunday) an MLB P-Limited GP310 for my wife Shelly to run, she returns to toy boats after a 12+ year hiatus and the boys better watch out if she decides to race again. :cool2:

cybercrxt
01-06-2014, 04:27 PM
The John Finch "Wild Thing" vee bottom mono lineup is now complete and available on the website. 32" Nitro, 32" FE, 34" FE, and 36" FE. John tested the 36" FE hull in white caps and 15mph winds and it radar-ed 70mph in heat trim. I would say that is pretty much getting it done! Mike



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_04_zpsb66a0188.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_01_zps26155e21.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_02_zps7915c9d0.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_03_zps3ee779e4.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_zps3362dd3b.jpg

sailr
01-06-2014, 07:17 PM
OK, who is gonna be the first to make a realistic sealable hatch for the FE version that fits that weird deck cutout!

cybercrxt
01-06-2014, 07:57 PM
Jim, as I get time i am gonna do fiberglass hatches for each size!

sailr
01-07-2014, 01:18 AM
Sounds like a plan!!


Jim, as I get time i am gonna do fiberglass hatches for each size!

Shooter
01-07-2014, 10:08 PM
Don - The theme on your 310 is PURRFECT. Love it. The paw marks on the sponsons are very cool.

don ferrette
01-08-2014, 02:26 PM
Don - The theme on your 310 is PURRFECT. Love it. The paw marks on the sponsons are very cool.

Yeah she didn't know about the build until it was finished and really liked it. We are on our 4th and 5th rescue cats now, we had 2 rescues and a domesticated feral cat that all lived long lives (15-17yrs) indoors with us until a couple years ago when they each passed one by one from old age issues (kidney failure). The wife is always on Petfinders tracking various cats watching to see if they get homes, our 2 new rescues came from there and are awesome. :smile:

cybercrxt
01-15-2014, 03:39 PM
Just a few things left to do till its ready for the first test. Both Dick and I are really excited to see the results! Mike



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/GSX480%20gas%20sport/ResizedImage_1389813930168_zps89d5cfc1.jpg



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/GSX480%20gas%20sport/ResizedImage_1389813893475_zpsf8b4a3bd.jpg

Brushless55
01-15-2014, 05:54 PM
The John Finch "Wild Thing" vee bottom mono lineup is now complete and available on the website. 32" Nitro, 32" FE, 34" FE, and 36" FE. John tested the 36" FE hull in white caps and 15mph winds and it radar-ed 70mph in heat trim. I would say that is pretty much getting it done! Mike



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_04_zpsb66a0188.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_01_zps26155e21.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_02_zps7915c9d0.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_03_zps3ee779e4.jpg


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/Wild%20Thing/WildThing_zps3362dd3b.jpg


A mono!
very cool

cybercrxt
03-31-2014, 03:17 PM
I just wanted to take the time to let everyone know that all future ML Boatworks fiberglass cowlings are now made using white gelcoat exteriors for a beautiful, pin hole free finish!

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/GelCoatedCowls/20140330_171042_LLS_zps109886a8.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/GelCoatedCowls/20140330_171051_LLS_zps90483d3b.jpg

cybercrxt
07-24-2014, 08:29 AM
Lots of new things on the website, check them out! www.mlboatworksrc.com

cybercrxt
02-01-2015, 08:23 AM
Haven't posted here in a while, but all is well. Check out all the products on the website! Mike

cybercrxt
02-01-2015, 04:30 PM
Just posted up on the OSE forum the new GSX380 sport 40 hydro. All the gear for the build was gotten here at OSE!

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?50492-ML-Boatworks-GSX380-New-Sport-40-size-Hydroplane-build-and-test&p=612208#post612208

cybercrxt
09-16-2015, 10:53 AM
Just wanted everyone to know the website is being redone right now, and if you have trouble ordering, please contact me directly. Thanks, Mike Luszcz, jamesmluszcz@hotmail.com

ray schrauwen
10-30-2015, 09:50 PM
Your website is not working right or is it my PC?

JimClark
10-30-2015, 09:54 PM
Works for me Ray

dmitry100
10-30-2015, 10:48 PM
Yea, it appears to be showing products from a different website after clicking around to diff categories ... bicycle products. They seem like default products that came loading into the shopping cart install though.

cybercrxt
10-31-2015, 04:13 PM
Yeah, the site has a bunch of default shopping cart items right now. I will be making the move as soon as Todd finishes the background setup to add the real products! Thanksand if anyone needs anything, just ask! Mike

cybercrxt
11-20-2015, 09:52 AM
The new website is up and running everyone! Very happy with how it turned out! Mike www.mlboatworksrc.com

cybercrxt
11-26-2015, 01:21 PM
10% off everything Holiday Sale at ML Boatworks starts now till January 3rd!!! Check it out @ www.mlboatworksrc.com

cybercrxt
06-07-2016, 03:00 PM
1/8th scale Pay N Pak Rigger kit is now available on the website. 110 is the newton number. Here is a parts sheet:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/110%20Pay%20Pak%20Rigger/PayPak69Rigger_zps5meqpn53.jpg

dmitry100
06-07-2016, 03:02 PM
Do you guys ever make custom CF or Aluminum parts ?

cybercrxt
06-07-2016, 03:12 PM
Sure dont. What are you looking for? thanks, Mike

cybercrxt
09-27-2016, 09:08 AM
A few of the latest offerings, build threads are posted throughout OSE!

RSX310 Outrigger kit, 31" FE P powered rigger:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/RSX310%20Rigger/20160709_140158_zps59adqkqv.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/RSX310%20Rigger/20160709_133659_zpsr6ptgrds.jpg


RSX240, 24" N power FE rigger and RSX380 38" Q power FE rigger kits. Kits are designed, working on cowling plugs now.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/RSX380%20Rigger/RSX380_zpsxjwgvndf.jpg

cybercrxt
09-28-2016, 02:18 PM
The 1/10th scale 164/ 9401 mhr Bud T4 twin wing kit is now available in clockwise and counterclockwise configurations!

http://woodrcboatkits.com/index.php/1-10th-scale-newton-164-mhr-9401-kit.html

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/BUD%20T4/GAST4_zps83gp3bet.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/BUD%20T4/DSCF2366.jpg

meangenesracing
09-28-2016, 02:44 PM
The 1/10th scale 164/ 9401 mhr Bud T4 twin wing kit is now available in clockwise and counterclockwise configurations!

http://woodrcboatkits.com/index.php/1-10th-scale-newton-164-mhr-9401-kit.html

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/BUD%20T4/GAST4_zps83gp3bet.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e324/spoonefcrx/BUD%20T4/DSCF2366.jpg

Mike, I am seriously starting to not like you lol. I'm so hooked on this boat thing I may have to buy this do you also make the cowl?

cybercrxt
09-28-2016, 03:12 PM
Lol, Im sure Hydroscale creations either has one, or can make one.

cybercrxt
11-02-2016, 11:38 AM
Well, it's that time of year, and the sale starts NOW. 10% off everything store wide...Including the new Thunderboat and Amps Baja fiberglass hulls! So check it out on my website, www.mlboatworksrc.com or www.woodrcboatkits.com. If you are looking for a winter build, and want something from my site, I suggest looking now, and not later..My laser guy will get backed up as always this time of year, so the time is now. Thanks! Mike

cybercrxt
10-20-2017, 09:43 AM
I am doing a previously unannounced sale for the fall, and its a really good one. The most I have ever offered off of my products, and it is a site wide sale. Scale, Extreme Scale, Wild Thing Mono, RSX Rigger kits, replacement cowlings, stand kits, hydro trailer kits are all at 15% off, while most everything else on the site is around 8-14% off...This includes all the Sport Hydroplane and Kneel down Hydroplane kits fiberglass hulls and outboard cowlings that I offer..Including the STV cat! Check it out. I am not disclosing the ending of the sale, so don't delay! Anything fiberglass related please understand I build to order, and I cannot judge how many things might be ordered, so please give me the time your build deserves! So check out the site, www.mlboatworksrc.com (http://www.mlboatworksrc.com/), and feel free to ask questions to my email, jamesmluszcz@hotmail.com. Thanks! Mike Luszcz, ML Boatworks

cybercrxt
03-28-2018, 10:28 AM
Just a quick update. The GSX sport hydro lineup has expanded, and a new version 2 is now available. With wider sponsons, and shingled sponsons, the version 2 will be able to shed water faster, handle rougher water, turn faster with more stability, and handle heavier batteries from a dead stand still.
The GSX310, is now the GSX315v2, and is 31.5" long.
The GSX380 is now the GSX380v2, 38" long.

Then, two newcomers are here...
The GSX265v2 is 26.5", and the GSX338v2 is 33.8".
The 265, 315 and 380 are available as nitro or FE specific kits, and the 338 is only done as an FE kit.

They are mostly added to the website now, so take a look! Same prices as the Version 1's as well!

These take an already outstanding kit, and raise it to another level, as well as adding more size versatility!

Thanks, Mike www.mlboatworksrc.com (http://www.mlboatworksrc.com)

GSX380v1 pic for reference:
https://photos.smugmug.com/GSX-380/i-MZw7fkR/0/813f1fee/L/20150202_070036_zps0ftngk7w-L.jpg

Brushless55
03-28-2018, 09:32 PM
Looks sweet bro!

ray schrauwen
03-28-2018, 10:33 PM
Keep up the great work Mike, Saving up again! like the 310 ans 338.

ray schrauwen
03-28-2018, 10:34 PM
Mike who does the graphics? Might like some for the GRX310.

gabz17
04-01-2018, 01:10 PM
Happy Easter to all, I have a few noob questions. I am debating what kit to get and not sure between the Newton 171 and 172. Do you have a picture that shows difference between offset and centered engine well on the Newton 171? I would love to try my best to replicate this beautiful U-27. Thank you for your time. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180401/b9df8be3074523cef4a6f280bd4237af.jpg

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JimClark
04-01-2018, 04:46 PM
What U-27 are you finding that ran with those hull numbers?

gabz17
04-01-2018, 06:09 PM
What U-27 are you finding that ran with those hull numbers?Not sure I understand the question but here is where I found this boat.

http://www.rcunlimiteds.com/2010-2019-fe-registered/in6zk4wk283/2015-Dalton-Industries

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JimClark
04-01-2018, 09:46 PM
Got it my roster list is not current

cybercrxt
04-04-2018, 08:57 AM
I would use the 172 kit for that hull. It looks like the T6 hull. Mike

gabz17
04-04-2018, 05:12 PM
I would use the 172 kit for that hull. It looks like the T6 hull. MikeThank you so much Mike, can you suggest any of your boat stands that would work with the Newton 172.

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ray schrauwen
04-04-2018, 07:53 PM
Happy Easter to all, I have a few noob questions. I am debating what kit to get and not sure between the Newton 171 and 172. Do you have a picture that shows difference between offset and centered engine well on the Newton 171? I would love to try my best to replicate this beautiful U-27. Thank you for your time. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180401/b9df8be3074523cef4a6f280bd4237af.jpg

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If I could sell most of my boats to buy one off these in 1/10th I might do it. Beautiful boat. I don't have the skills to do detail like that.

Tetefroid
05-11-2018, 10:41 PM
I can't find this build thread:confused2:

cybercrxt
05-12-2018, 08:46 AM
What build thread do you need?

Tetefroid
05-12-2018, 05:17 PM
It was a t-6 hull build thread, albert lee. I have the 172 extreme and I am looking for pics. I also came across a; Home Street Bank, build thread, and now I can't seem to find that anywhere either. But I don't remember if that was an ML or a RcBoat build.

cybercrxt
05-17-2018, 05:26 PM
Finally, a full instruction manual for the RSX Outrigger series is done! Email me for a copy anyone that needs one!

cybercrxt
07-11-2018, 11:16 AM
Well, I am very happy to announce a new addition to the fiberglass hull lineup at ML Boatworks. I acquired the Vision 20 and 40 outboard tunnel molds from Shawn and they arrived today! Been cleaning them up, only to find a mint surface under the paste wax layers. I am working on prepping them for semi permanent mold release now, and should be ready to start tackling the waiting list soon! I am really happy to finally be offering race tunnels again, and the fact they have won numerous races at the international level is even better! More soon!


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-mBdWMtt/0/dee18ab8/L/36963136_10214931233328834_4173269118494965760_n-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-bQbtt7n/0/9d8047fe/L/36990050_10214931234608866_6534824764140158976_n-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-Zq75ST7/0/bd36adb7/L/37008544_10214931234208856_5475426090799333376_n-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-2qS7DH5/0/d7431a7b/L/36931399_10214931235328884_5513954051978428416_n-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-bG9ncGG/0/12260154/L/36927630_10214931233808846_739411403491770368_n-L.jpg


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cybercrxt
07-13-2018, 09:05 AM
Well, I cannot say I am not very very happy with the first 20 and 40 bottom layups. Both done with carbon reinforcement. Stain Harness H4 carbon to be exact. This has made for a very very strong, and light bottom. I am also now using Duratec Hi Gloss gel coat additive, and I cannot say enough about the results. A more durable gel coat, that will polish up like a mirror. The pics below are before any kind of Polishing! I cannot wait to start on the top decks for these two hulls. Here are some pics:


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-DVKGksM/0/1775c4db/X2/20180712_225641-X2.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-MbLGcR2/0/1f1589bb/L/20180712_225649-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-nXWsRZ3/0/26127ef6/L/20180713_071641-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-mVMnzLp/0/97d28004/L/20180713_071653-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-gpv47zp/0/9947b4ef/L/20180713_072032-L.jpg


https://photos.smugmug.com/Vision-Tunnels/i-4p8nDPL/0/73bb36f7/L/20180713_072040-L.jpg


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Brushless55
07-13-2018, 10:06 AM
Very nice!