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Steven Vaccaro
06-10-2010, 07:11 AM
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This is a link to the item on the ProBoat website

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PRB4100#quickMM

AndyKunz
06-10-2010, 07:48 AM
Thanks for posting the link (and the new forum) Steve. I think the guys are gonna like this one. Check out the hardware, too!

You know, I was SURE we had video. I'll check into that.

Andy

Doby
06-10-2010, 08:24 AM
Holy Crap............................!!!! Nice.

skellyo
06-10-2010, 09:52 AM
Looks like it comes with a 2.4GHz Tx bound to a MR3000 Rx. Nice!

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 09:59 AM
Looks like it comes with a 2.4GHz Tx bound to a MR3000 Rx. Nice!

It MAY not be the MR3000... but it is a Spektrum compatible marine RX. I think it may only be a 2-channel RX. I'll try to verify that for you.

You'll also note that the driveshaft on this one is a standard flexshaft setup, as opposed to the captured stub-shaft setup they've been using. I haven't had a production model in my shop yet, but the stubshaft is 3/16" as well, as opposed to being metric, as in the past. That's what I specified on this one, anyhow. Note that the antenna has been moved off of the hatch and off to the side also, so you don't have to restring it everytime you put the hatch on.


This hull is a LOT wider than the previous CAT offerings from PB, and the hull geometry is "race inspired"... This one should perform all the way around!

skellyo
06-10-2010, 10:33 AM
Nevermind...looks like the MR200. When the heck did that Rx come out?!? It wasn't there a few days ago.

http://spektrumrc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPMMR200

Doby
06-10-2010, 10:34 AM
Looks like the entire hull is sealed off by the "tupper ware" lid. True? If so, good by hatch tape!

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 10:38 AM
Nevermind...looks like the MR200. When the heck did that Rx come out?!? It wasn't there a few days ago.

I'm not sure... where are you seeing that? I've tested them and they work JUST like the MR3000... they are just in a case, and conformal coated instead of sealed in epoxy. Same range and everything that the MR3000 has, just 2-channels and not the dual-pin-set arrangement... oh, and a LOWER PRICE as well... :thumbup1:

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 10:40 AM
Looks like the entire hull is sealed off by the "tupper ware" lid. True? If so, good by hatch tape!

If you are running it hard... I'd recommend putting a small piece of tape on the outter hatch at least... BIG flips can overcome the magnets and tear the outter hatch off, which then in turn tear off the inner hatch, and then... :crying:

Ask me how I know this??? :eek:

skellyo
06-10-2010, 10:43 AM
I'm not sure... where are you seeing that? I've tested them and they work JUST like the MR3000... they are just in a case, and conformal coated instead of sealed in epoxy. Same range and everything that the MR3000 has, just 2-channels and not the dual-pin-set arrangement... oh, and a LOWER PRICE as well... :thumbup1:

I saw the Rx in the manual...

http://skellyo.com/fs/geico_rx.jpg

Doby
06-10-2010, 10:44 AM
Well, I'll give Proboat their dues.....a new tunnel and cat. Well done.

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 10:53 AM
I saw the Rx in the manual...

http://skellyo.com/fs/geico_rx.jpg

That's cool... I haven't even looked at the manual yet... :ohmy: Very observant of you. :thumbup1:

Would think that would be a good RX for offroad trucks and cars too!

lomdel
06-10-2010, 10:59 AM
Is the motor a 540 size?

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 11:03 AM
Is the motor a 540 size?


Standard BlackJack 26 3650-1500 BL motor setup....

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 11:11 AM
Steven,

I just e-mailed you a copy of the Miss Geico Video that is suppose to be getting posted to the ProBoat/Horizon site. Feel free to upload and post it here if it arrives correctly. It's about 9MB, so I'm not sure if my e-mail sent it...

Steven Vaccaro
06-10-2010, 11:28 AM
Steven,

I just e-mailed you a copy of the Miss Geico Video that is suppose to be getting posted to the ProBoat/Horizon site. Feel free to upload and post it here if it arrives correctly. It's about 9MB, so I'm not sure if my e-mail sent it...


Got it and updated the top post.

Looks like a winner.

Steven Vaccaro
06-10-2010, 11:35 AM
I will get some of those recievers also. Whats the main diff between the mr200 and mr3000

Darin Jordan
06-10-2010, 11:40 AM
I will get some of those recievers also. Whats the main diff between the mr200 and mr3000

Steven,

The MR3000 is encased in epoxy, and has dual pin sets (for dual motors, dual steering, etc.)... and, of course, is a 3-channel. There may be some adjustable failsafe features in there as well... I think you set the failsafe when you bind it. For example, if you want to have your rudder turn to the right in the event of a loss of signal, there is a way to program that (I believe by holding rudder right when binding???)

The MR200 is conformal coated, and comes in a standard RX case. It only has one set of pins, and of course, is only 2-channels instead of 3. It says the failsafe is "preset", which I think means it's fixed at the Neutral position for the controls.

MR200 is listed at $49.95... so it's a bit cheaper as well.

I've used them in two different boats now and they work every bit as good as the MR3000... same range, etc...

tomstoys2
06-10-2010, 12:07 PM
This is way cool!

AndyKunz
06-10-2010, 12:18 PM
Somewhere on the SpektrumRC.Com site there is a list of the different names we use for the different types of failsafes. "Preset" means it goes to the position where the trigger/wheel was at when you bound it (ie, throttle to "off").

The official video link will be corrected shortly. Darin's is the same one, I believe.

Andy

Doby
06-10-2010, 12:30 PM
Vid looks great. Darin, hows the fiberglass on the hull? Is it thicker (stronger)than the BJ was?

RadicalRay
06-10-2010, 01:09 PM
Awesome, first the outboard tunnel now the cat, going to be a good year. Got to buy more batteries
Thanks Proboat

Rumdog
06-10-2010, 01:39 PM
Woohoo! Sweet!

Hi8iS
06-11-2010, 12:28 AM
Looks nice. It's very cool to see all these new RTR boats coming out!

forescott
06-11-2010, 01:18 AM
I'm just waiting for one of them to hit the shelf. The suspense is killing me!

lomdel
06-11-2010, 02:33 AM
I'm just waiting for one of them to hit the shelf. The suspense is killing me!

Any idea when they'll be hitting the shelves? And the twin-drive brother soon after that...?

Doby
06-11-2010, 07:09 AM
Any idea when they'll be hitting the shelves? And the twin-drive brother soon after that...?

Twin?? Why do you think that??

lomdel
06-11-2010, 07:14 AM
Twin?? Why do you think that??

Not thinking, rather hoping....

Brushless55
06-12-2010, 12:37 AM
Ohhh man!

BakedMopar
06-12-2010, 03:29 AM
This is a beatifull boat. Thanks Darin for putting out hobby grade products for entry level prices. Everytime I go out to the pond a kid and it's parent asks about getting into the sport. It's a nice thing that now they have a lot of options at reasonable prices.

Raydee
06-12-2010, 09:16 AM
I have to give Proboat some credit, I always steered people away from their boats but it looks like they are finally listening to the FE guys and putting out some quality stuff. Between this hull and the new tunnel I am going to have to get a second job. Great job Darin and Andy!!

Brushless55
06-12-2010, 09:22 AM
Crazy the two boats they have coming out!
Big step forward... :thumbup1:

AndyKunz
06-12-2010, 10:19 AM
Crazy the two boats they have coming out!

It almost makes you wonder what's coming out next Thursday ...

Seriously, I know months ahead what new boats and planes are coming out, but often not which week because I'm too busy to keep track. Thursday morning at work is fun for me to check the new products page. "Oh good, those are announced now!" I'm just dying to see what we say on the www.SpektrumRC.com website when the countdown expires. I'll probably stay up that night, too.

For these two boats I was watching closely - even stayed up till the wee hours for the Stiletto announcement. I'm really pumped on these.

Andy

Brushless55
06-12-2010, 10:53 AM
It almost makes you wonder what's coming out next Thursday ...
Seriously, I know months ahead what new boats and planes are coming out, but often not which week because I'm too busy to keep track. Thursday morning at work is fun for me to check the new products page. "Oh good, those are announced now!" I'm just dying to see what we say on the www.SpektrumRC.com website when the countdown expires. I'll probably stay up that night, too.

For these two boats I was watching closely - even stayed up till the wee hours for the Stiletto announcement. I'm really pumped on these.

Andy

:popcorn2:

Darin Jordan
06-12-2010, 11:05 AM
It almost makes you wonder what's coming out next Thursday ...



Hmmmm..... Now you have ME curious too! :w00t:

skellyo
06-12-2010, 11:20 AM
Hmmmm..... Now you have ME curious too! :w00t:

I believe it is a new spektrum radio. There has been a teaser on the spektrum site for a bit now.

bustitup
06-12-2010, 12:01 PM
Darin Jordan

This post is for you...first of all many many kudos for helping design the first small scale cat that actually has some girth...11" wide....its absolutely awesome

now here is my question.....looking at the video of it...it seems to be handling exactly like my sprintcat that I thought was having handling problems...is this normal?

not sure if you would call it porpoising but listen to the whine of the motor ......its not a steady whine......it sounds like the prop is catching and letting go intermittently

here is a video of the first run where you can see the boats slight bouncing....please evaluate Darin

is this normal?


click here (http://www.rgcbuilders.net/scfirstrun.wmv)

forescott
06-12-2010, 12:48 PM
Sounds like a similar problem I had with my converted tc-31. Turns out I had the strut height set perfectly with the prop half in/half out of the water. But strut angle was a bit too posotive causing the bow to porpoise and causing the prop to dip in and out of the water slightly(same motor pulsing sound) I raised the strut 1mm and gave it a tiny negative adjustment on the strut angle and it went away. Sorry, I know I'm not Darin, just wanted to tell you my experience. Good luck!

bustitup
06-12-2010, 01:26 PM
Sounds like a similar problem I had with my converted tc-31. Turns out I had the strut height set perfectly with the prop half in/half out of the water. But strut angle was a bit too posotive causing the bow to porpoise and causing the prop to dip in and out of the water slightly(same motor pulsing sound) I raised the strut 1mm and gave it a tiny negative adjustment on the strut angle and it went away. Sorry, I know I'm not Darin, just wanted to tell you my experience. Good luck!

Forescott....hey man anyone that wants to chime in please do


and I apoligise to anyone here who thinks I jacked this thread but I feel that if its an issue in my boat then the boat in the geico vid has an issue and should be addresed.......out of the 14 responses I got in my thread about this not one single person thought that is was normal for my boat to run this way

http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=15173

AndyKunz
06-12-2010, 02:11 PM
Where do you see porpoising in the Geico video?

Andy

bustitup
06-12-2010, 02:23 PM
Where do you see porpoising in the Geico video?

Andy

clearly at 10 -12 sec and again at 27 sec and actually any time you here that motor pulsating sound

like I stated in my first question about this

"not sure if you would call it porpoising but listen to the whine of the motor ......its not a steady whine......it sounds like the prop is catching and letting go intermittently

Darin Jordan
06-12-2010, 05:45 PM
clearly at 10 -12 sec and again at 27 sec and actually any time you here that motor pulsating sound

like I stated in my first question about this

"not sure if you would call it porpoising but listen to the whine of the motor ......its not a steady whine......it sounds like the prop is catching and letting go intermittently

With a plastic prop on the boat, it's naturally going to load/unload the prop, as the blades flex and lose pitch, then bend back...

It's just a matter of tuning and tweaking. The boat in the Miss Geico Video is straight off the manufactures workbench. It's not a characteristic of the hull, it's a tuning issue that will work itself out with proper battery placement, strut adjustment, and prop tuning.

On some cats, however, the step design can cause this type of issue at certain speeds...

sjslhill
06-12-2010, 06:26 PM
Nice stuff....looks like PB is in the lead over AQ

AndyKunz
06-12-2010, 08:01 PM
I'd go with what Darin said. One of the problems with plastic props is the flexing. And yes, the Geico was not tuned at all - it was exactly as you'd get it in the box. I'm sure you guys will tune that out in about 3 runs.

The other thing, though, is that the boat is seeing some very slight ripple on the water. Ripple will always cause a change in RPM (if not, you're about to become upside down!). There's nothing wrong with that.

Your SC was far more pronounced, though, and seeing how it wanted to run nose-down, I'd guess you had either/both a CG and prop angle issue. It was nice and fast, though!

Andy

blackcat26
06-12-2010, 08:51 PM
That is a beautiul boat. I love it!

kevakov
06-13-2010, 10:03 AM
This would be a great hull to go with the Mean Machine , to see which one is better. They are just about the same size, maybe swap props on them. I want one!!!!

T.S.Davis
06-13-2010, 10:52 PM
PB is going to sell a pascillion of these.

AND!! it's not just cool. It falls right into the rule set that a lot of clubs have been playing with for a couple seasons now. Nice job Darin.

forescott
06-13-2010, 11:29 PM
Is a pascillion more than a buttjillion??

T.S.Davis
06-14-2010, 08:00 AM
I think it's one less zero than a buttjillion.

AndyKunz
06-14-2010, 08:50 AM
Whatever it is, PLEASE don't tell Obama or Congress what comes after TRILLION.

Andy

befu
06-14-2010, 09:34 AM
Whatever it is, PLEASE don't tell Obama or Congress what comes after TRILLION.

Andy

Hyper inflation and Revolution.....

this cat looks really good. I am in the process of building a skunkworks gen 2 32" cat. If this was out, I would buy it now. But maybe I will get mine done first? At the rate I build, I will probably buy one and have it running before my 32 gets wet!

I really like this one, especially the press on hatch seal. Me liky!

Brian

HYDROJERRY
06-14-2010, 10:35 AM
You and me both befu,, my skunk probly wont be done yet either but i really like the geico may have to get one when its out...

bigpapa
06-14-2010, 11:39 AM
SWEET GOTTA HAVE ME ONE !!!!!!!!!!!

:thumbup1::tongue_smilie::thumbup1:

bigpapa
06-16-2010, 10:47 AM
steven are you gonna stock any of thease, would wrather spend my money with u then someone else...........

tomstoys2
06-16-2010, 10:53 AM
I agree, first choice would be to buy it from Steven.

bigpapa
06-16-2010, 10:57 AM
my thought exactly ...........

HYDROJERRY
06-16-2010, 11:37 AM
For sure, you no you'd get it in just a couple days, man he's fast....

tomstoys2
06-16-2010, 11:47 AM
I know you don't like to take pre-orders Steven but......:bowdown:

westbeach
06-16-2010, 01:42 PM
Hey guys, I am not sure what this means but have a look?!
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/categories.php?cat=8








:sarcasm1:

Darin Jordan
06-16-2010, 01:46 PM
Hey guys, I am not sure what this means but have a look?!
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/categories.php?cat=8


Hey... I don't see any Stilettos listed there... :confused2: :biggrin:

Steven Vaccaro
06-16-2010, 02:15 PM
I will be getting them. I have 10 on order. I may up now that I see how nice it is.

Doby
06-16-2010, 02:21 PM
Need new shoes Darin?

Darin Jordan
06-16-2010, 03:17 PM
Need new shoes Darin?


Nope... Just teasing Steven!... :Peace_Sign:

bigpapa
06-16-2010, 03:58 PM
good deal steven gotta have me one lol

HYDROJERRY
06-16-2010, 05:11 PM
I may have to start selling some boats now so i can get one when they come in,,,,

blackcat26
06-16-2010, 07:35 PM
Hey Steven I would at least double your original order of 10!

Brushless55
06-16-2010, 10:47 PM
I will be getting them. I have 10 on order. I may up now that I see how nice it is.

When do you expect delivery?

kookie_guy
06-20-2010, 12:11 AM
Went to LHS and was told the miss geico would be available late july. Sucks, as I want the hull now. lol.

blackcat26
06-20-2010, 07:39 AM
I'm thinking twinsky's big time! Looks like a great hull for it.

bigpapa
06-23-2010, 03:09 PM
10xl on 6s here...............

properchopper
06-25-2010, 12:54 PM
Just found out that a new friend here in SoCal has one on order & wants to run with the SoCal guys. Yay ! I get to experience the boat firsthhand. :banana:

davidb
07-01-2010, 08:45 PM
Am I correct in thinking that you have to take the rudder off everytime you lube the shaft on this boat or is this a stupid question?

Darin Jordan
07-01-2010, 10:02 PM
Am I correct in thinking that you have to take the rudder off everytime you lube the shaft on this boat or is this a stupid question?

It's not a stupid question... Yes, to lube the shaft, you'll have to swing the rudder up. It's a pain, I agree, but was a design compromise that was made.

davidb
07-01-2010, 10:36 PM
Thankyou Darin- titan or this boat :doh:what to do! I like the way this rides through the water better- Upgrade the motor and esc? What are your thoughts? I know I am being pre mature!

Rumdog
07-01-2010, 11:46 PM
Upgrade the prop! The motor is a very good one!

Darin Jordan
07-02-2010, 12:18 AM
Upgrade the prop! The motor is a very good one!

Ditto with the Rumdog... This boat should do 40 out of the box... and with decent batteries and a prop change, much faster.

Tough to compare it to the Titan... One is a mono, one is a Cat... they are different creatures, so pick your poison!

However, the Geico will me more fun once AQ get's their RTR on the market, and we can have some offshore fun!! :thumbup1:

davidb
07-02-2010, 12:52 AM
One last question- All I have ever had are monos.(big boats as well) What should I expect differently from this cat? In bigger cats(big boat 500 plus HP) that I have rode in when you get up to around 80 they tap back and forth side to side. Monos like my baja hammer power through with some front bounce. Are RC cats more stable? It looks it in the video. The reason I asked about a bigger esc and motor is that I was watching the real Miss G the other day! :thumbup1:Oh my gosh! amazing boat! Thanks for the input!

Brushless01
07-02-2010, 12:43 PM
Would a 7xl on 4s work in this ??

bigpapa
07-02-2010, 12:49 PM
mine is orderd ............. late july they say

johnf
07-02-2010, 02:05 PM
Any updates on these? Darin, have you gotten to mess with one any more?

Darin Jordan
07-02-2010, 03:12 PM
Any updates on these? Darin, have you gotten to mess with one any more?

Nope... still waiting for mine too...

Jeff Wohlt
07-02-2010, 03:32 PM
If they are using the same BJ set up then 5S on this would be fun!

johnf
07-02-2010, 03:55 PM
Will the motor or ESC support 5s?

Brushless55
07-02-2010, 04:14 PM
Will the motor or ESC support 5s?

yes :thumbup:

Darin Jordan
07-02-2010, 04:14 PM
Will the motor or ESC support 5s?

Apparently they do it with the BJ26 all the time.... I've never tried it myself.

johnf
07-02-2010, 04:56 PM
Well that is interesting! Can't wait to see some vids of these things scooting around after being setup on 5s. I know some of you crazies are gonna do it! Please get it on video! haha

forescott
07-02-2010, 08:28 PM
One last question- All I have ever had are monos.(big boats as well) What should I expect differently from this cat? In bigger cats(big boat 500 plus HP) that I have rode in when you get up to around 80 they tap back and forth side to side. Monos like my baja hammer power through with some front bounce. Are RC cats more stable? It looks it in the video. The reason I asked about a bigger esc and motor is that I was watching the real Miss G the other day! :thumbup1:Oh my gosh! amazing boat! Thanks for the input!

My uncle has a hustler 377 talon with twin blown 540ci merc motors and #6 drives. It has a gps'd top speed of 138mph. The nice thing about a cat is that with air compressing under the tunnel, it can float like an airplane wing, and skip across the waves at high speed, as opposed to pushing through them with a v-hull. A cat hull will obviously turn flat as opposed to a V-bottom which will lean into the turns. This can take a little getting used to, as one might be a little afraid that a cat might flip easier in the turns. But a cat hull of the same length as a "V" will handle more speed. I have several cats and vees the same. They are soo different. I love the straightaway speed of a cat, but also the superior turning ability of a V.

forescott
07-02-2010, 08:29 PM
Either way the Miss geicko is sure to be a hit for proboat, and all fe enthusiasts!!:thumbup:

johnf
07-02-2010, 08:38 PM
I think you are right. This boat looks fantastic.

davidb
07-03-2010, 01:37 PM
Forescott thank you very much for answering my question! This will be my first rc cat and I am pumped!:w00t:

befu
07-06-2010, 08:10 AM
mine is orderd ............. late july they say

Now it looks like it is pushed back to september! :cursing: Just in time for winter weather, perfect!

And I have the cash sitting in my paypal account now. Oh-well, looks like I will complete my skunk 32 first and put the $350 towards batteries and such.

Brian

HYDROJERRY
07-06-2010, 09:33 AM
Eek, preorder one,,i to am still working on my Skunk maybe a Miss Geico paint sceam would be good then youll have a 32'' Geico instead of 29'',,,,, i would rather it be bigger anyways..:thumbup:but gotta love the look of it..

airman66285
07-06-2010, 11:57 AM
Bad move on Proboat's part...I was going to buy whichever boat was stocked by my LHS first - either the Traxxas Titan or Miss Geico. Looks like I am going to get the Traxxas now. I think I will just repaint my Blackjack 26 neon yellow and order the Miss Geico stickers instead.

Diesel6401
07-08-2010, 03:15 PM
Bad move on Proboat's part...I was going to buy whichever boat was stocked by my LHS first - either the Traxxas Titan or Miss Geico. Looks like I am going to get the Traxxas now. I think I will just repaint my Blackjack 26 neon yellow and order the Miss Geico stickers instead.

I think it's actually a pretty smart move. The boat will sell good no matter what (IMO), but with the Traxxas Titan & Proboat Stilleto already being released at the end of July why add another boat to that, and why compete against one of your own. From a consumer point IT SUCKS (I really like this boat), from from a manufactor point prob a smart move. Less competition and more than likely people who know about the boat and who are waiting it have more time to save and buy. I know I plan to buy all 3. JMO

properchopper
07-08-2010, 03:32 PM
C'mon guys; do you really think Proboat is deliberately holding back release of the Geico ? Launching a new product depends on an enormous amount of factors, many not in immediate control of the OEM. Not so long ago Harley Davidson released media info on their radical new Roker bike [ I was a rider in the press videos] - created an enormous demand. Then final delivery was held back nearly six months because a supplier couldn't deliver on a body part. Hang tough, Bros - It'll arrive when it's completely ready to deliver it's promise. :Peace_Sign:

Darin Jordan
07-08-2010, 03:35 PM
C'mon guys; do you really think Traxxas is deliberately holding back release of the Titan ? Launching a new product depends on an enormous amount of factors, many not in immediate control of the OEM. Not so long ago Harley Davidson released media info on their radical new Roker bike [ I was a rider in the press videos] - created an enormous demand. Then final delivery was held back nearly six months because a supplier couldn't deliver on a body part. Hang tough, Bros - It'll arrive when it's completely ready to deliver it's promise. :Peace_Sign:


Wise words... Getting this stuff delivered is not as easy as saying "make it so", and even the best laid plans can get sidetracked...

johnf
07-08-2010, 03:36 PM
I'll be patiently waiting. I'd rather wait for the product to be right, than rush it to the water.

properchopper
07-08-2010, 03:50 PM
i'll be patiently waiting. I'd rather wait for the product to be right, than rush it to the water.

exactly !

Brushless55
07-08-2010, 04:04 PM
I'll be patiently waiting. I'd rather wait for the product to be right, than rush it to the water.

:iagree:
I'll get one if it comes out this month or a month or two later..

BondoBrushless
07-08-2010, 04:42 PM
I know it's ben mentioned but the tupperware lid is the shizz !

Diesel6401
07-08-2010, 06:32 PM
:iagree:
I'll get one if it comes out this month or a month or two later..

As will I :beerchug:

forescott
07-09-2010, 12:13 AM
I'm gettin whatever comes out first! The suspense is killing me!!

Brushless55
07-09-2010, 12:33 AM
I'm gettin whatever comes out first! The suspense is killing me!!

:roflol:

airman66285
07-09-2010, 08:00 AM
I will definitely buy the new Miss Geico after I buy the Titan. I have ALWAYS wanted to have someone market a Miss Geico based on the new Mystic C5000R hull. That boat is the most impressive and beautiful hull I have ever seen. I have been a loyal Proboat customer (I own both the Blackjack 26 and FASTech) and I have really enjoyed watching the evolution of their designs. The motor and ESC combo is hard to beat in terms of simplicity, fun factor and durability. It will be a very fun and rewarding boat to own and run with at my lake.

Derrick Davis
07-09-2010, 09:04 AM
Greetings all! I'm a newbie here and am delighted that I've found a forum that is filled with guys that clearly have a passion for scale boating. I don't have near the knowledge, experience or know how that you guys have so please don't be offended when I ask ignorant questions. :bowdown:
I'm the proud owner of Proboat's Miss LLumar (nitro w/ flex shaft) and the BJ26 brushless. I CAN'T WAIT TO ADD MISS GEICO TO MY FLEET! And yes, I too was hoping to have my hands on her late this month. As it has already been stated, the push back on delivery means ALL the bugs will be worked out by the time we get these boats on the water.
I must say the Titan looks pretty impressive in the videos.....hmmm how can I get both? Oh wifey.... Cheers to all!

airman66285
07-09-2010, 09:55 AM
Welcome aboard Derrick! You will find many great individuals here and gobs of outstanding data for all types of boats. I see you are from MN - I am as well - Minneapolis area. If you are close to the cities, PM me and I can give you some excellent lake locations with zero seaweed, no swimmers and best of all, no waves!

forescott
07-09-2010, 07:45 PM
Greetings all! I'm a newbie here and am delighted that I've found a forum that is filled with guys that clearly have a passion for scale boating. I don't have near the knowledge, experience or know how that you guys have so please don't be offended when I ask ignorant questions. :bowdown:
I'm the proud owner of Proboat's Miss LLumar (nitro w/ flex shaft) and the BJ26 brushless. I CAN'T WAIT TO ADD MISS GEICO TO MY FLEET! And yes, I too was hoping to have my hands on her late this month. As it has already been stated, the push back on delivery means ALL the bugs will be worked out by the time we get these boats on the water.
I must say the Titan looks pretty impressive in the videos.....hmmm how can I get both? Oh wifey.... Cheers to all!

:welcome: Can I ask what kind of speed do you think your getting out of your Miss Llumar? I ask because I am converting one to brushless and am curious as to what a stock nitro Miss Llumar can do. Thanks!!

Jeff Wohlt
07-09-2010, 11:23 PM
This is pretty typical for the manufacturer...re-seller is actually more accurate....say what they will. Promote and get pre-orders and test the waters for demand. Very comon but everyone of them will say...no way.

The AQ cat is no different....they all like to get their ducks in a row. How long was the AQ UL 1 promoted and "tweaked" and still some very poor issues with them.

I am not knocking the boys here trying to deal them but what they expect and what they get are usually two different things.

Derrick Davis
07-10-2010, 12:35 AM
Thanks for the welcome! I might be getting speed in the upper 20s. I don't have a gps so I'm not certain. It could be better I know....but I don't know much about tuning the nitro motor. In fact, I'm still running the original stock .15 motor. The only upgrade I've done is a brass prop in place of the plastic it came with. I've also been thinking about a conversion to brushless. It would be great if you can keep me / us posted on your conversion process. Cheers!

AndyKunz
07-10-2010, 09:54 AM
This is pretty typical for the manufacturer...re-seller is actually more accurate....say what they will. Promote and get pre-orders and test the waters for demand.

I can't think of any time we've done that on any of our product lines in the two years I've been here. It's especially not true in this case, and it's definitely not a "working out the bugs" issue either. Sometimes factories just get behind, miss a container shipping schedule, and then we get stuck waiting for the next opportunity.

Andy

Jeff Wohlt
07-10-2010, 10:53 AM
I expected your response and certainly if you were handlng it then it would be done and shipping.

I understand the "miss a container" but come on-when you invest thousands and thousands in merchandise from a factory then we are talking big purchases and contracts, etc. If not then your purchasing agent needs to be talked to...if they do not meet the requirements then it usually costs the company building them. You know I worked for state gov for over 15 years and we had to have teeth in every part of a contract....mostly because they bid and then back track. It cost them big bucks when they screwed it up.

All I can say is there has to be something to my comment. This may be the first for you all on the boats but it is not the first for several companies.

I commend you all for this great product R&D.

Now stand on them, Andy :)

AndyKunz
07-10-2010, 07:13 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence, Jeff, but I make mistakes just like anybody else. Probably more. Our people have done a great job on handling the issue, and I think you all will think it worth the wait. Rest assured, the only difference between the boat on the videos/photos and the one you'll see at the LHS is that the video/photo doesn't do justice to the brightness of this boat on the water.

You know, it's hard being green.

Andy

Tuslow1
07-14-2010, 10:16 AM
This boat is Hott!
I like it alot and it will be one in my shed soon enough... The only thing I want is more speed!!! So I guess now would be a good time to get a Higher Amp ESC and Higher KV motor. Ofcourse my trusty choice of motor, ecs and prop would be the reliable 8XL, X442 and a 120 Swordfish. I might not be looking at the sealed hull right but I don't think the XL will fit. I have no knowledge on the S or L sized motors but I can tell you that anything under 40+ mph will not hold my attention very long.
Anyone know of a motor size that will fit under the sealed cover and the KV to match that of a 8XL with the power to move the boat???

kookie_guy
07-18-2010, 11:01 AM
One thing people gotta keep in mind, that this is what happens when you have stuff made offshore (by offshore I mean china). I work in the automotive sector, and more and more of our suppliers are offshore companies, because quite simply, as sad as it is, the north american companies just can't compete.

The biggest downfalls of sourcing from offshore companies are that it's hard to keep tabs on what they are doing, and if something does go wrong with a shipment, it's not like you can pick up the phone and have replacements within a few hours. Some days it takes our quality department days just to get a hold of someone with the time differences. By that time, 100,000 more bad components are already made and on their way.

The pro is the pricing. That's how we, the consumer, get them at a reasonable price.

jnation89
08-08-2010, 06:52 PM
what prop do you guys think will be best running stock motor and esc with 30c 5000mah 2s lipos? i was looking at prather 220 or225.....just wondering which will make it really screaam....

Fluid
08-08-2010, 10:15 PM
This boat is Hott! Anyone know of a motor size that will fit under the sealed cover and the KV to match that of a 8XL with the power to move the boat???

A Neu 1512/2.5D should fit.



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forescott
08-09-2010, 01:21 AM
what prop do you guys think will be best running stock motor and esc with 30c 5000mah 2s lipos? i was looking at prather 220 or225.....just wondering which will make it really screaam....

I would try the octura x642. I'm not a big fan of prather props.

lomdel
08-09-2010, 03:47 AM
I am also looking forward for this cat to reach the southern tip of Africa.
We need a twin 540 version soon, Proboat!!

Brushless55
08-09-2010, 02:01 PM
I am also looking forward for this cat to reach the southern tip of Africa.
We need a twin 540 version soon, Proboat!!

YES! :bowdown:

cvlex
08-16-2010, 12:06 AM
I am fifty-eight years old and although fly RC sailplanes since 1974, I am a newb to RC boating. Now I run ShockWave 26BL with ProTek 2S5000 40C battery, Octura x435 prop and DX2S. She is excellent, fast yet stable, easy to drive.

Next boat, I plan to run Miss Geico 29 or Stiletto 29 and have several questions:

1)which is faster in stock?
I plan to run with two ProTek 2S5000 batteries.

2)which is easier to drive?

3)which is more stable under windy conditions, around 10 mph wind?
I am a timid man and never wish my boat to turn over.

Any advice or recommendations are all welcome.

Thanks in advance,

cvlex

AndyKunz
08-16-2010, 11:25 AM
The Geico is probably the better boat for you. It will handle wind/waves better due to the hull design and has less drag than the tunnel, so it will probably be faster stock. Both corner VERY well (I was really surprised at how well the tunner corners), but tunnels are better-known for flipping in a turn. We haven't run them side-by-side. That's something I'll have to see if we can do when he gets back.

Andy

Darin Jordan
08-16-2010, 12:10 PM
1)which is faster in stock?
I plan to run with two ProTek 2S5000 batteries.


That's an interesting question... I don't know that one is actually faster than the other... I believe either can be prop'd to achieve mid-40's with relative ease (think sport running), and can achieve low 50's in race trim, if everything else is setup correctly.




2)which is easier to drive?


The Geico will be much easier to drive. Either drives well, but the OPC Tunnels take more balance on the throttle in the turns.



3)which is more stable under windy conditions, around 10 mph wind?
I am a timid man and never wish my boat to turn over.


Again, the Geico will serve you better. The OPC Tunnels can "fly" in the wind, and do not like rough water conditions. The Geico (Cat) is a much better "offshore" boat.



Any advice or recommendations are all welcome.


Hope this helps.

cvlex
08-16-2010, 07:17 PM
Hi Andy,
Hi Jordan,

Thank you so much for your kind help.
My next boat will be the Geico, maybe.

Thanks again,

cvlex

AndyKunz
08-16-2010, 08:16 PM
I just hope they get here soon! I've had a Stiletto hull sitting in my shop for a few weeks waiting for an outboard so I can finish it up!!

Andy

onegreenray
08-30-2010, 02:11 PM
just placed my order with Steve as well. I would rather give him the money then another shop. This will be my first cat. Looks great on the videos.

Jesse J
08-30-2010, 03:51 PM
Hey Steve, when you gonna get the next batch in? missed the first due to a visit from Mr. Nomobux.

airman66285
08-30-2010, 04:15 PM
I just picked up my Miss Geico from my LHS (HobbyTown USA-Brooklyn Park, MN). I paid $312.49 for mine. I will post pictures later tonight but I wanted to share my first impressions of the boat with all of you that are interested in the boat. My first impression was how damn bright the paint was - it is radioactive neon yellow! The photos don't do justice as to how bright she is. The fit and finish is a magnitude greater than the Blackjack 26 and FasTECH! The glue used to adhere the stringers to the hull is about 3x as thick as my past ProBoat models. The rudder hardware is something to behold as it looks and feels like it is aftermarket - the anodizing is gray in color and there is zero slop in the rudder compared to the FasTECH. It also appears that the ESC has thicker wiring now - perhaps 12 gauge. The propeller IS the same size as the stock Blackjack and FasTECH so I am going to start with an Octura x642 on it and that will be the extent of my modifications. They really, really, really did their homework on this project and I am very glad that I cancelled my Traxxas Titan order for this. Please let me know if you want to see photos of specific angles and I will send them to you. AWESOME job to Darin Jordan and the gang at ProBoat - I LOVE THIS BOAT! :rockon2:

Rumdog
08-30-2010, 04:50 PM
Sweet! Photos of the bottom please.

jac4412
08-30-2010, 05:02 PM
airman let me know how that prop runs

johnf
08-30-2010, 05:25 PM
Awesome! Glad to hear how nice this thing sounds. I'd love some pics of the inside layout. That is the only thing the website really lacks. Good shots of the inside. Any angles would be nice. Just curious how everything is laid out.

bigpapa
08-30-2010, 05:28 PM
thank darin jordan its all his deal he is the man behind the proboat step up

bigpapa
08-30-2010, 05:29 PM
my miss geico gets here tommorrow cannot wait...........

bigpapa
08-30-2010, 05:30 PM
tks darin for all your time and knowladge on this project hats off to ya my friend

johnf
08-30-2010, 05:32 PM
Todd, you and Tracy gonna have a Miss Geico race? LOL

PolarRoller08
08-30-2010, 06:04 PM
So I am sitting there thinking out loud......"I cant wait to get my pretty Miss Geico".....and then my wife goes, Who is this Miss Geico????:mad:......I was like don't worry it's just a boat. Little does she know.....:rockon2:

AndyKunz
08-30-2010, 06:15 PM
My first impression was how damn bright the paint was - it is radioactive neon yellow! The photos don't do justice as to how bright she is.

I think I mentioned that before. It's amazing how hard it is to get photos showing "radioactive" (I LIKE THAT TERM!) yellow accurately.

I'm really looking forward to hearing how it runs for you.

Andy

airman66285
08-30-2010, 07:22 PM
I think I mentioned that before. It's amazing how hard it is to get photos showing "radioactive" (I LIKE THAT TERM!) yellow accurately.

I'm really looking forward to hearing how it runs for you.

Andy
Andy,

I am so stoked about this beast! I am so glad I got this instead of the Titan - the BJ26 motor and ESC is a time tested, proven performer for me and I am glad that they are in this boat. I do not plan on doing any mods to this beauty except for the x642 prop. I am sure that some will try to go for a twin drive setup (and the PLENTY of room for two motors) but it is just so beautiful the way it is. Here are some of my pics!

THANK YOU ANDY, DARIN AND PROBOAT!!!!!!!

johnf
08-30-2010, 07:25 PM
pics not showin for me.

PolarRoller08
08-30-2010, 07:53 PM
cannot see pics:eek:

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:00 PM
Here are the pics some of you requested! :buttrock:

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:04 PM
I am having internet connection issues right now - I hope these get through...

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:05 PM
Bottom of hull...

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:06 PM
Inside of hull

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:07 PM
More interior shots...

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:09 PM
Interior...

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:10 PM
Interior 2...

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:12 PM
Front of hull...

Rumdog
08-30-2010, 08:13 PM
Nice! Thanks for the picks! Now, go get her wet!

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:16 PM
Next to an Apache 24 (notice the size difference!) :bowdown:
I forgot to mention how damn strong the cowl magnets are - they don't want to let go very badly (hence the need for the included removal handles). I figure that a smallish piece of tape could easily hold the cowl on since the magnets are doing the heavy lifting. :thumbup1:

airman66285
08-30-2010, 08:21 PM
No doubt Rummy - I will install the prop, wax her up and take her out Saturday morning. I need to install my 5.5 bullets yet. I guess I may sell the stock radio and go for the trusty Tactic 2.4 instead....don't really like the antennae on a boat this scale looking!

johnf
08-30-2010, 08:23 PM
sweet! thanks for posting

johnf
08-30-2010, 08:30 PM
hey bud, does the hull feel pretty solid?

tth
08-30-2010, 08:54 PM
Man this is killing me inside. I should have had mine todat too!!! Thanks for posting pics. Hull looks excellent, I cannot wait.

bigpapa
08-30-2010, 08:56 PM
mine should be here tommorrow

airman66285
08-30-2010, 09:13 PM
hey bud, does the hull feel pretty solid?

The hull feels rock solid. Seriously, I am used the to build quality (or lack thereof) of the BJ 26 and the FasTECH and this is a much, much more solid hull. I would say that the fiberglass feels at least 2.5x as thick as my paper thin BJ26 hull.

airman66285
08-30-2010, 09:15 PM
Man this is killing me inside. I should have had mine todat too!!! Thanks for posting pics. Hull looks excellent, I cannot wait.

We are all going to have some awesome video posts of the MG very soon. I keep laughing because I think Traxxas made a HUGE mistake by delaying their Titan. I was all ready to buy theirs but ordered the MG after the delay of the Titan. This is such a solid boat!

airman66285
08-30-2010, 09:17 PM
airman let me know how that prop runs

Will do Bud - taking her out Saturday morning for the maiden voyage...

johnf
08-30-2010, 09:23 PM
The hull feels rock solid. Seriously, I am used the to build quality (or lack thereof) of the BJ 26 and the FasTECH and this is a much, much more solid hull. I would say that the fiberglass feels at least 2.5x as thick as my paper thin BJ26 hull.

Im disappointed to hear that. my wallet can't handle it. lol

jac4412
08-30-2010, 10:37 PM
I have yet to get my hands on my MG but just from the pictures I can tell this is one sweet little boat

Brushless55
08-30-2010, 11:02 PM
sweet!
looking forward to the video..

boogeyman
08-30-2010, 11:38 PM
this lack of a running video within 1hour of having it is unaceptable and will be punishable by keel hauling, or flogging your choice

Darin Jordan
08-30-2010, 11:42 PM
WHY would you swap out a Spektrum radio system for a Tactic?? That's sacrilege! :bounce:

The RX in that boat is waterproof, has a HUGE range, and simply rocks.

Waterproof ESC... Waterproof RX... New Spektrum Marine tech... sounds very reliable and trouble free to me!

airman66285
08-31-2010, 07:47 AM
WHY would you swap out a Spektrum radio system for a Tactic?? That's sacrilege! :bounce:

The RX in that boat is waterproof, has a HUGE range, and simply rocks.

Waterproof ESC... Waterproof RX... New Spektrum Marine tech... sounds very reliable and trouble free to me!

I just don't like the antennae - it looks gay sticking out of that beautiful boat. The Tx just doesn't feel right in my hand either - very uncomfortable in my large hand. I never had any issues with the Tactic system - I really loved the range and the Rx was easy to waterproof with a dab of 3M DP270 epoxy. Different strokes for different folks...

NativePaul
08-31-2010, 09:02 AM
I just had to comment on the shocking video in the first post, its a good looking boat and darin says (and I believe) that it handles well, but the video shows it porpoising along at top speed and backing of the throttle to a crawl for the turns, not a good advert. Taking the time to actually set up the boat and then giving it a few laps flat out all the way will get more people interested, if I wasn't a forum regular and saw that video I would think that it was just another crappy RTR with loads of rocker built in to get its nose up and make it look fast at low speed (but (over)powered with BL) and just ignore it.

You don't have to run the antennae outside the hull, having the external antennae gives you the choice of doing so and maximizing range and minimising signal blocking if you wish, but you can keep it inside the hull and suffer the reduced range and greater chance of a blocked signal if you choose to just as you are forced to do with the internal antennae of the tactic. Personally I like twin antenna systems as internal antennae give me as much range as I need and I can run one on each side of the motor ensuring the signal never gets blocked, good looking and glitch free.

Rumdog
08-31-2010, 09:10 AM
Andy Kunz of Spektrum says it must be run outside the hull. The last 2" of the coil are the actual antenna. The further extended, the better range.

Darin Jordan
08-31-2010, 09:59 AM
Andy Kunz of Spektrum says it must be run outside the hull. The last 2" of the coil are the actual antenna. The further extended, the better range.

Actually... it's the last 32mm... Just the exposed silver portion at the end of the gray coax...

HYDROJERRY
08-31-2010, 12:17 PM
:iagree: with airman i too dont like the look of an antanna sticking out,,, i prefer the Tactic antannaless also....:thumbup1: just my 2 cents thow..

johnf
08-31-2010, 12:28 PM
How about leaving just 1-2 inches of antennae sticking out and cutting the rest of the antennae tube off? That should work ok with the factory radio right? Range might not be as good, but it seems like it would do ok if it is just the end that is actually the antennae.

airman66285
08-31-2010, 01:17 PM
:iagree: with airman i too dont like the look of an antanna sticking out,,, i prefer the Tactic antannaless also....:thumbup1: just my 2 cents thow..

Thanks for the vote of confidence - I was starting to feel a little lonely here with my preference for no antennae! :smile:
I only drive my boats within 200 yards of me on any lake I drive on and the Tactic has been absolutley flawless with my last 3 boats. I even did a crazy range test last July to see how far I could get my boat to go away from me and the boat was barely visible to me and it still had total control. I am not knocking the Spektrum in any way, shape or form - it does look like a marvelous piece of engineering (the Rx is the size of a dime!) but I just prefer the Tactic Tx in my hand. Different strokes for different folks! :thumbup1:

tman52804
09-01-2010, 04:39 PM
So, several boats are hitting their lucky owners, but hardly any info posted yet. What are you guys going to run for prop, batteries, etc???

T.S.Davis
09-01-2010, 04:41 PM
Sure would be fun to run one along side one of the only 2 AQ cats in the country. hint hint wink haha

Darin Jordan
09-01-2010, 04:49 PM
Sure would be fun to run one along side one of the only 2 AQ cats in the country. hint hint wink haha

Terry... What are the dimensions for the AQ boat?

The Geico is 30" overall... about 27.5" from tips to the tails of the sponsons... Tunnel width is 5.5" and overall width is about 10.5", if I recall correctly. It's a pretty decent sized "Spec" boat...

Will be fun to see how everything stacks up. Get to it, boys!! :thumbup:

T.S.Davis
09-01-2010, 04:55 PM
I never measured it. I don't have one. I've just had my butt handed to me by one on multiple occasions. Mike Z had one at the nats too. I had time to watch it since I flipped 3 of 4 heats. DOH!! Ran really well considering the wind and sheer number of boats out there.

I can't wait till these new cats take off. A bunch of stable RTR cats running around will make LSO a riot class.

Darin Jordan
09-01-2010, 04:59 PM
I can't wait till these new cats take off. A bunch of stable RTR cats running around will make LSO a riot class.

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking! I absolutely LOVE racing OPC tunnels, and Offshore... both supreme driving and setup challenges! I think we're off to a good start! Can't wait to see what comes up next! :spy::zip-up:

onegreenray
09-01-2010, 05:26 PM
just got mine. question though do you use one or two break away bolts on the rutter of a catamaran? I am taking mine out tomorrow so I'll post some videos if no one beats me to it.

some pics for size comparison to an sv27

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/onegreenray/IMG_2721.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/onegreenray/IMG_2722.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/onegreenray/IMG_2723.jpg

johnf
09-01-2010, 05:32 PM
post the vid(s) anyway. The more the better.

Diesel6401
09-01-2010, 07:23 PM
So, several boats are hitting their lucky owners, but hardly any info posted yet. What are you guys going to run for prop, batteries, etc???

Mine is in the mail, just got comformation yesterday that it shipped. I plan on starting with 2 2s 5000mah 40c turnigy lipo's. Esc bec disabled & motor timing switched to high of course. I will use my dx3s also. I want to start with a x642, after I test the grounds on that I may run 5s on stock power. I do have a brand new seaking 120 esc in the shop and plan on changing the motor very quickly as well. Video will be done on 4s & 5s with stock power.

tman52804
09-02-2010, 11:21 AM
Just picked mine up. Haven't had a chance to even get it out of the box yet. Won't the 642 be too large?

Trea916
09-02-2010, 01:27 PM
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Darin Jordan
09-02-2010, 01:29 PM
Looks like you need to move the strut up a tad, and move the batteries forward slightly. That should help get the porpoising out of it.

Trea916
09-02-2010, 01:39 PM
It was a duck feather stuck in the prop have to take some more videos

Darin Jordan
09-02-2010, 01:52 PM
It was a duck feather stuck in the prop have to take some more videos


I'm a little confused... is this a ProBoat, or the Genesis hull?? or am I complete off base on both accounts?? :)

tman52804
09-02-2010, 02:35 PM
Sweet. I almost ordered a Genesis. I take it you had to gut the whole thing though.

Steven Vaccaro
09-02-2010, 02:40 PM
I'm sorry not to confuse things, I have to move your videos. Please post them in their own thread. Otherwise people are going to think your hull is a ProBoat.

tman52804
09-02-2010, 02:41 PM
Awesome paint job, by the way. That'll definitely smoke my new Cat.

forescott
09-02-2010, 05:20 PM
Mine is in the mail, just got comformation yesterday that it shipped. I plan on starting with 2 2s 5000mah 40c turnigy lipo's. Esc bec disabled & motor timing switched to high of course. I will use my dx3s also. I want to start with a x642, after I test the grounds on that I may run 5s on stock power. I do have a brand new seaking 120 esc in the shop and plan on changing the motor very quickly as well. Video will be done on 4s & 5s with stock power.

Sounds like you've thought this through Diesel! Get er done!!

Diesel6401
09-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Sounds like you've thought this through Diesel! Get er done!!

Looking forward to this boat, I have had my eyes on it since it's announcement. I also just got word my that my DF33 copy will be shipping either today or tomorrow as well, I have a t-180 and leopard 4074 ready for that boat (which is why I needed that mount Forescott, thanks again). So I will be busy next few weeks. I will get video on that as well. I may be looking to change the inline rudder on the MG to a offset style as well.

forescott
09-02-2010, 06:13 PM
Looking forward to this boat, I have had my eyes on it since it's announcement. I also just got word my that my DF33 copy will be shipping either today or tomorrow as well, I have a t-180 and leopard 4074 ready for that boat (which is why I needed that mount Forescott, thanks again). So I will be busy next few weeks. I will get video on that as well. I may be looking to change the inline rudder on the MG to a offset style as well.

Hmmmm.. I wonder if that inline rudder will accomodate bigger props than the one in my p-1? Keep me in mind if you want to get rid of it.

Diesel6401
09-02-2010, 06:31 PM
Hmmmm.. I wonder if that inline rudder will accomodate bigger props than the one in my p-1? Keep me in mind if you want to get rid of it.


I will do that good sir. As long as my x642 fits I will be happy. The offset Octura may be a nice fit hardware wise. I have something up my sleeves for a new motor as well :spy: lol. I may or may not be selling the stock esc/motor as well. I haven't decided it yet, I may save it as a back-up system.

onegreenray
09-02-2010, 08:43 PM
here is my first run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2fVV-0ma-Y

Rumdog
09-02-2010, 08:51 PM
Looks good! Try raising the strut a tad to get rid of the slight "bounce" at speed.

Rumdog
09-02-2010, 08:52 PM
In fact, after just this one vid.... I'll go out on a limb and say it looks to be the best handling rtr out there.

befu
09-02-2010, 09:40 PM
here is my first run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2fVV-0ma-Y

Definately looked good. Enjoyed even though the first 30 seconds I was just quacking up! :doh:

Brian

onegreenray
09-02-2010, 09:42 PM
second run was even faster but it was getting to dark to video and it was pretty windy. i have to say i am very impressed with it.I will be taking it out again this weekend. I'll try and get a deck camera mounted to.

i think the only thing i will be changing is the prop.

the birds need to learn who's pond it is!

jac4412
09-03-2010, 02:58 PM
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6465/img00272201009031342.jpg (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/img00272201009031342.jpg/)

Best I could do since shes sitting at home for me while I'm at school! Won't get to play with her for a couple weeks

tman52804
09-03-2010, 04:57 PM
I just got to inspect mine and I noticed the paint job isn't the greatest, really light in some spots and the tips of the sponsons are white. Anyone know where we can get some touch up paint?

HYDROJERRY
09-03-2010, 05:26 PM
Hey atleast you got one i cant afford it wright now:crying: but soon hopefully, so feel lucky dude,,

T.S.Davis
09-04-2010, 11:10 AM
Has anyone put one in traffic yet? I'd like to know how it "handles" about 5 laps in. Not a criticism. Just a need to know for me. I've seen the competitions offering.

kevink
09-04-2010, 11:34 AM
My buddy and I ran ours together for 5 min. Handles great. Put my boat up until I receive a proper rotation flex shaft.

Diesel6401
09-05-2010, 09:59 PM
Here's a video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsZmdN6FsIs) of my first day out.

onegreenray
09-06-2010, 12:17 AM
looks good.

Diesel6401
09-06-2010, 12:22 AM
looks good.

Thanx, I also responded to your comment/question you posted.

onegreenray
09-06-2010, 12:54 AM
thx diesel for the answer, I am still being lazy and haven't changed over to bullet connectors yet. I'll probably bite the bullet and do it next summer or over the winter when its not so crazy.

Diesel6401
09-06-2010, 01:00 AM
thx diesel for the answer, I am still being lazy and haven't changed over to bullet connectors yet. I'll probably bite the bullet and do it next summer or over the winter when its not so crazy.

Cool, it's one of the best and least expensive things you can do.

ray schrauwen
09-06-2010, 10:25 PM
Bottom of hull...

No problem but, that to long enough! thanks for the pics....

I thought it was going to be an impossible task to get someone to post pics...:thumbup1:

ray schrauwen
09-06-2010, 10:28 PM
Does the hull only come with hardware or not??

ray schrauwen
09-06-2010, 10:34 PM
Still looking for a decent hardware picture.....

Looking to buy this hull only & hardware.... Where is best price?

AndyKunz
09-07-2010, 10:18 AM
Ray,

Hull only is hull and hatch. No hardware. For hw you need to order several pieces (rudder, prop strut, motor mount).

Andy

Darin Jordan
09-07-2010, 10:31 AM
Still looking for a decent hardware picture.....

Looking to buy this hull only & hardware.... Where is best price?

Ray... I've posted this already in my race prep thread, but here it is again:

ray schrauwen
09-07-2010, 10:42 AM
Hull is $200, hardware (rudder & Strut) is only $20-$40, the rest I have piles of.

Thanks guys. I was getting frustrated by all the threads on the boat and I wasn't seeing the pics I hoped. I'm fine now, medicated... LOL...

Andy, what part#'s do I need for strudder assembly? Hull is PRB4101....

scoota
09-07-2010, 10:43 AM
Could someone tell me the hull ONLY measurements ?

Cheers jason

scoota
09-07-2010, 10:46 AM
Hull is $200, hardware (rudder & Strut) is only $20-$40, the rest I have piles of.

Thanks guys. I was getting frustrated by all the threads on the boat and I wasn't seeing the pics I hoped. I'm fine now, medicated... LOL...

Andy, what part#'s do I need for strudder assembly? Hull is PRB4101....

Does the hull come with the stuffing tube ?

Where can i get the hull only guys ?

Darin Jordan
09-07-2010, 10:49 AM
Does the hull come with the stuffing tube ?

Where can i get the hull only guys ?

I'm assuming it comes with the stuffing tube, since it's laminated in.

ALL of the ProBoat stuff is available from Horizon Hobby...

scoota
09-07-2010, 10:51 AM
I'm assuming it comes with the stuffing tube, since it's laminated in.

ALL of the ProBoat stuff is available from Horizon Hobby...

Thanks Darin

T.S.Davis
09-07-2010, 11:01 AM
Darin, once you mentioned the a bind and go version. Did that ever happen? I hate to have yet another radio in my mix.

Darin Jordan
09-07-2010, 11:07 AM
Darin, once you mentioned the a bind and go version. Did that ever happen? I hate to have yet another radio in my mix.

I don't remember mentioning that, but either way, this boat comes with an MR3000 RX, so you can just bind it to your existing Spektrum radio and be good to go. The stock TX should be worth a few $$$ in the secondary market, I would think. (I'm going to let my daughter have mine for her Traxxas Stampede... :thumbup1: )

scoota
09-07-2010, 11:12 AM
Does Horizon hobby ship to Australia , cause they only look like they ship in the US when i tried to order a hull ...

AndyKunz
09-07-2010, 11:13 AM
To find the parts you need, go to this link:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=PRB4100

Now on the right side, click on "Parts Listing." Scroll down the list to pick out the items you want.

Andy

ray schrauwen
09-07-2010, 11:16 AM
Yes but, there is a slight confusion on the strut & rudder. It looks like prb4106 is both strut & rudder and there is a part# for stut only too.

No rush, just wantto clarify and not buy an extra strut.

AndyKunz
09-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Does Horizon hobby ship to Australia , cause they only look like they ship in the US when i tried to order a hull ...

We have an importer there. Go to RCGroups, look up ChuckTseeker - he should be able to point you in the right direction.

Andy

AndyKunz
09-07-2010, 11:18 AM
Yes but, there is a slight confusion on the strut & rudder. It looks like prb4106 is both strut & rudder and there is a part# for stut only too.

No rush, just wantto clarify and not buy an extra strut.

There are no duplicate parts. You need to buy both to get the whole thing.

Andy

spence72
09-07-2010, 11:20 AM
Has anyone put one in traffic yet? I'd like to know how it "handles" about 5 laps in. Not a criticism. Just a need to know for me. I've seen the competitions offering.

Terry,

I'll bring mine out to the next club race on the 19th, I'm also curious to see how it handles in "race water".

I haven't had a "man" prop on her yet, but I did crack 38MPH with a K45 plastic. I'm waiting for a new flex cable before I try some metal props. My initial impression is very positive. Repeatedly crossing my own wake while executing full speed left and right turns showed no tendency to upset this hull, it just cuts through and begs for more. We may have a winner here...

Bob

ray schrauwen
09-07-2010, 11:24 AM
There are no duplicate parts. You need to buy both to get the whole thing.

Andy

Ten-Four:thumbup:

I get it now. Strut with bearing is separate # and rudder with strut must mean mount for strut. need them both... gotcha...:smile:

scoota
09-07-2010, 11:26 AM
We have an importer there. Go to RCGroups, look up ChuckTseeker - he should be able to point you in the right direction.

Andy

Cheers Andy :thumbup:

T.S.Davis
09-07-2010, 11:29 AM
Awesome Bob. Can't wait to see it.

Bob is kicking the pants off us in our club LSO class with an SV. If he says it seems to handle well it probably does.

Darin, is the radio that comes with the RTR just a stripped down version of what we already have?

Oh, also, any more color scheme planned? Might get confusing when these start showing up everywhere.

ray schrauwen
09-07-2010, 11:33 AM
Awesome Bob. Can't wait to see it.

Bob is kicking the pants off us in our club LSO class with an SV. If he says it seems to handle well it probably does.

Darin, is the radio that comes with the RTR just a stripped down version of what we already have?

Oh, also, any more color scheme planned? Might get confusing when these start showing up everywhere.

That's where number plates will work for racing. Like in Europe.

blackcat26
09-07-2010, 12:03 PM
Ray, check out horizon hobby web site think its all there

longballlumber
09-07-2010, 12:21 PM
Bob is kicking the pants off us in our club LSO class with an SV. If he says it seems to handle well it probably does.


Ha.... Factor in the "drop one score" rule and we have a 5-6 man race for the crown at the end of the year!!!! It's gonna be a doozie! That class has been sooo much fun this year!

I am excited to see this thing run too... Good Work Bob!!!

Later,
Mike

jac4412
09-07-2010, 02:18 PM
Terry,

I'll bring mine out to the next club race on the 19th, I'm also curious to see how it handles in "race water".

I haven't had a "man" prop on her yet, but I did crack 38MPH with a K45 plastic. I'm waiting for a new flex cable before I try some metal props. My initial impression is very positive. Repeatedly crossing my own wake while executing full speed left and right turns showed no tendency to upset this hull, it just cuts through and begs for more. We may have a winner here...

Bob

Was that with the stock setup? Interesting thats faster than with an x642

spence72
09-07-2010, 03:27 PM
Was that with the stock setup? Interesting thats faster than with an x642

This was the stock setup on Hyperion 2S Lipos with the strut lowered 1/8" below factory settings. Batteries were mounted flush with the front edge of the trays. Out of the box speeds were 34MPH (no adjustments, stock prop). I'm still seeing some "bounce" at speed, although I believe it to be less with strut/CG tweaking.

tacticalretreat
09-18-2010, 03:48 PM
I guess this is the right place to post this. First off, a big thank you to all of you. I have been lurking around here for the past couple weeks and learned a lot from you guys about Lipos and FE's in general.

So I finally got the boat, batteries, flex shaft, etc, together and took it for a run Thursday and I love it! This is my first rc boat (I have had trucks in the past but it's been a while) and I know I have a lot to learn but wanted to share a couple vids I posted on youtube of some of my first runs (of course I've already flipped it over).

Thanks again and enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0hsBkjQuSo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ir0jssfaMs

ron1950
09-18-2010, 06:32 PM
looks good llove a good vid......what part of fl are u in anyway......that lake looks familular....

Jeff Wohlt
09-18-2010, 11:04 PM
Did you not have it taped? That is a must.

tacticalretreat
09-21-2010, 01:40 PM
ron - It's lake bonny in lakeland...

jeff - yeah, I kinda learned the hatch tape lesson the hard way. the good news is both lids float and were easy to recover but you can bet I won't go without tape from now on!

blackcat26
09-21-2010, 01:50 PM
This was the stock setup on Hyperion 2S Lipos with the strut lowered 1/8" below factory settings. Batteries were mounted flush with the front edge of the trays. Out of the box speeds were 34MPH (no adjustments, stock prop). I'm still seeing some "bounce" at speed, although I believe it to be less with strut/CG tweaking.

Batteries are too far forward. Try running them halfway off the back edge of the tray.

spence72
09-21-2010, 03:31 PM
Batteries are too far forward. Try running them halfway off the back edge of the tray.


Thanks for the tip; I’ll be trying it as soon as I finish flattening the ride pads. Have you tried her in “race water” or chop? Any tendency for blow overs with batteries further back?

stringfly
09-21-2010, 04:10 PM
blackcat 26,
I tried the batterys back like you said and the bouncing was worse. I am running with 2 -2s turnegy 5000mah packs but with stock prop. (have a x640 and x642 on the way). My strut is flush with top of bracket and with 0 angle. When I moved my packs up I got less bounce but front was not overly wet and still had good speed (for a stock prop). :confused1:

Stringfly <>+++++ SEE VIDEO...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f6lE-O74OA

blackcat26
09-21-2010, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the tip; I’ll be trying it as soon as I finish flattening the ride pads. Have you tried her in “race water” or chop? Any tendency for blow overs with batteries further back?

As long as you get the strut angle neutral you will have no problem with blowovers. I have only run mine in chop when in stock form and it did fine. Your COG or balance point needs to be somewhere about 9" from the very back vertical edge of the boat (where the rudder bracket is bolted on). This has worked well for me and I am still tweaking it in. My strut is about 1/8" above the bracket. I would not go by the bracket to judge the struts attitude either. Stand back and look at the edge of the ride pad and make the strut follow that same line. Seemed much more stable after I did that.

blackcat26
09-21-2010, 07:47 PM
blackcat 26,
I tried the batterys back like you said and the bouncing was worse. I am running with 2 -2s turnegy 5000mah packs but with stock prop. (have a x640 and x642 on the way). My strut is flush with top of bracket and with 0 angle. When I moved my packs up I got less bounce but front was not overly wet and still had good speed (for a stock prop). :confused1:

Stringfly <>+++++


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f6lE-O74OA

As long as your batteries are fairly secure that should have cleared up most of the bounce. I bet you have a little positive angle on the prop. Again dont go by the strut bracket to determine the prop angle. I lined mine up by eye parallel with the back ride pads. Kinda non-scientific but worked better than eye-balling the bracket. Hope that helps.

stringfly
09-21-2010, 08:26 PM
Ok blackcat26, will check that angle some more. Thanks.
How was the video? ... a first ??? two Geicos together ???....

stringfly <>+++++