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BakedMopar
06-23-2010, 01:04 PM
I see a easy fix with a longer screw ?

It's either a oversight prior to the pictureing taking or the kit will come with longer screws to adjust more trim and have directions for this included.

:iagree:

I have never run trim tabs the other way around.

Rumdog
06-23-2010, 01:30 PM
I see no issue here. Basically the same as speedmaster type tabs. They'll prob just end up parallel with the hull anyhow...

Brushless55
06-23-2010, 01:43 PM
The adjustable trims should be flipped 180*

Doby
06-28-2010, 12:44 PM
Another vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLT8qLaD8W8

BondoBrushless
06-28-2010, 12:51 PM
Lookin' Good !

I'm anxious to get mine !

Diesel6401
06-28-2010, 01:10 PM
Looks awesome, I can't wait.

One question though and it may have been already answered in this thread I can't remember. But the motor is listed as a 540xl 1600kv, doesn't a 540xl can sound small for a 40" boat?

bustitup
06-28-2010, 01:14 PM
Looks awesome, I can't wait.

One question though and it may have been already answered in this thread I can't remember. But the motor is listed as a 540xl 1600kv, doesn't a 540xl can sound small for a 40" boat?

TITAN IS 36" you may be thinking of the osprey

RareBear
06-28-2010, 01:27 PM
Another vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLT8qLaD8W8

Man, that boat is quick..........

6S HYDRO
06-28-2010, 01:30 PM
It better be on 6s lipo

mschaffer66
06-28-2010, 01:46 PM
I cancelled the pre-order on mine the other day. I think its cool and all, but I just had so many projects to begin with and I started thinking that 50 on 6S isn't really all that impressive. It is for a stock boat for sure, but my supercat goes 45 on 4s....

I hope it sells a ton and gets more people into boating :)

Diesel6401
06-28-2010, 01:47 PM
TITAN IS 36" you may be thinking of the osprey

No I'm thinking about the Titan. Hull length is 36.5" but overall with hardware is 40.8". Still at 36" wouldn't a 540xl be kinda small? http://www.traxxas.com/products/marine/5708_titan/trx_5708_titan_specs.htm


Hull Type Deep-V
Dead Rise Angle 26 Degrees
Hull Length 36.5 Inches (927mm)
Overall length 40.8 (1037mm)
Beam 9.5 Inches (243mm)
Weight 72oz (2041g)
Speed Control Type Traxxas Velineon VXL-6s, Watercooled
Input Voltage 7-18 NiMH Cells, 2-6 LiPo Cells
(8.4-22.2 Volts DC)
BEC Voltage 6.0 VDC
BEC Current 3A
Power Wire 12 gauge Maxx Cable
Thermal Protection Thermal shutdown
Low Voltage Detection Yes (user enabled)
Motor (electric) Traxxas Velineon® 540XL Brushless, watercooled
Drive System Direct Drive, 0.150” Flex Cable
Outdrive Adjustable Aluminum
Prop 2-blade composite, 42x59mm
Transmitter TQ 2.4GHz High Output with Traxxas Link™
Receiver 2218 2.4GHz Micro 5-channel
with Traxxas Link™
Servo 2056 High-torque waterproof
Batteries (2) Power Cell 7-cell
with High Current Connector
Charger Not included
Skill Level 2

Brushless55
06-28-2010, 02:00 PM
For Traxxas and this Boat the XL is just fine for what they are after

Diesel6401
06-28-2010, 02:15 PM
I get what your saying, and it is a RTR so I get their marketing plan.

bustitup
06-28-2010, 02:53 PM
No I'm thinking about the Titan. Hull length is 36.5" but overall with hardware is 40.8". Still at 36" wouldn't a 540xl be kinda small? http://www.traxxas.com/products/marine/5708_titan/trx_5708_titan_specs.htm

its pretty lite at 4.5 lbs

Checkmateguy01
06-28-2010, 03:21 PM
its pretty lite at 4.5 lbs

Is that with or with out the batts.????

alvinsmith75
06-28-2010, 04:06 PM
Boy when this boat comes out there will be a ton of nimh and wall wart chargers for sale!

detox
06-28-2010, 05:30 PM
Boy when this boat comes out there will be a ton of nimh and wall wart chargers for sale!

Traxxas 2.4 radios also. Or maybe these radios will be better than the Aquacraft 2.4.

Man...soon these disposable radios will cost a dime a dozen.

chummer
06-28-2010, 05:43 PM
Traxxas 2.4 radios also. Or maybe these radios will be better than the Aquacraft 2.4.

Man...soon these disposable radios will cost a dime a dozen.

Yeah, I really wish they would start offering these RTR's without the radio gear or "bind and drive's". Maybe a chance to save a few bucks! Mostly everybody has plenty of RTR radios sitting in their basement already.

Make-a-Wake
06-28-2010, 05:55 PM
its pretty lite at 4.5 lbs

Well them maybe a couple of these in parallel could be strapped into those nice long trays! Should fit real well:thumbup1:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10480&Product_Name=Turnigy_5000mAh_6S_25C_Long_Lipo_Pack

mschaffer66
06-28-2010, 07:16 PM
Traxxas 2.4 radios also. Or maybe these radios will be better than the Aquacraft 2.4.

Man...soon these disposable radios will cost a dime a dozen.

I actually just began switching all of my stuff over from my DX3R to the Traxxas 4ch 2.4 radio.

At first it was my boat stuff because I didn't want to risk dropping a $200+ radio into the water and I needed some more RX's and the Traxxas ones were much cheaper.

Haven't had any issues so far so I'm going to switch my cars over and then sell all of the Spektrum stuff for more boat parts :)

Rumdog
06-28-2010, 09:14 PM
I like the Traxxas radio as well. I have used it in a few boats and numerous land vehicles. Never an issue. It has a little nicer feel than the Tactic IMO. Both are great for the $$ though.

steveo
06-28-2010, 10:32 PM
Another vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLT8qLaD8W8

wow that thing is rock solid, i'm sure its had some time to look that good but its promising i am liking the larger hulls now days this would suit my needs at the big lake near me

SweetZ28
06-28-2010, 10:40 PM
:confused:Funny the boat hull seems to be always rocken from side to side in the video like it is having trouble going through the water?

Brushless55
06-28-2010, 10:42 PM
:confused:Funny the boat hull seems to be always rocken from side to side in the video like it is having trouble going through the water?

Hmmmm?
looks like its going about 50mph, not much trouble there :bounce:

Rumdog
06-28-2010, 10:43 PM
Nah, all FAST monos do this. They will chine walk at WOT. The ride pad is the only part of the hull really in the water, and the prop tries to pull the hull to one side constantly.

Brushless55
06-28-2010, 10:45 PM
Nah, all FAST monos do this. They will chine walk at WOT. The ride pad is the only part of the hull really in the water, and the prop tries to pull the hull to one side constantly.

This is what my T29 does above 45mph at WOT :rockon2:
below that speed and its fairly smooth

befu
06-29-2010, 09:43 AM
This boat is looking very impressive. a 540xl-1600 motor isn't huge either. Is it comparable to a Feigao? those at that KV are rated for about 60ish amps. I wonder what the wattage is when wrunning at that speed (a lot of w's :huh:) :spy:

Also, looks like a traditional deep vee, no flat ride pad?

RareBear
06-30-2010, 11:21 AM
Also, looks like a traditional deep vee, no flat ride pad?

Per Traxxas' website - doesn't look flat, as far as I can tell?

"The foundation of Titan’s extreme performance is its all-new hull. The clean, modern hull design is built up in layers for maximum rigidity where it matters most, the transom and ride pad."

SweetZ28
06-30-2010, 11:19 PM
O ok just wondering .....:w00t: Guess i have not hit 50MPH yet fastest thing i have is a SV27 stock running a CF45mm prop and 2 2s 5000 Lipos!

nate
07-01-2010, 01:58 PM
.....Neu 1527 1500kv..... Octura x445..... Castle Hydra 180hv..... 5mm collet.. and new drive shaft..

70mph?....

Thats funny.. I'd do it..:cool:

BondoBrushless
07-01-2010, 02:21 PM
.....Neu 1527 1500kv..... Octura x445..... Castle Hydra 180hv..... 5mm collet.. and new drive shaft..

70mph?....

Thats funny.. I'd do it..:cool:

Sounds like a great recipe for good times ! :banana:

Rumdog
07-01-2010, 04:07 PM
70? Not with an x445!

nate
07-02-2010, 12:05 PM
70? Not with an x445!

Ha, who know's... just buy a heli and fly at 99mph.. no prop needed lol

Doby
07-02-2010, 12:56 PM
Ha, who know's... just buy a heli and fly at 99mph.. no prop needed lol

How does it stay in the air with no prop:huh::huh:

Rumdog
07-02-2010, 02:05 PM
I have a couple helis. This thread is about the Traxxas Titan. Cant wait to see what you guy's do when you get them. Who's gonna be the first to hop it up????

johnf
07-02-2010, 02:09 PM
I have a couple helis. This thread is about the Traxxas Titan. Cant wait to see what you guy's do when you get them. Who's gonna be the first to hop it up????

I just can't wait to get one. I'm hoping its gonna be good stock on 4 or 5s. Plan on making it the wife's boat. :beerchug:

Make-a-Wake
07-02-2010, 02:18 PM
.....Neu 1527 1500kv..... Octura x445..... Castle Hydra 180hv..... 5mm collet.. and new drive shaft..

70mph?....

Thats funny.. I'd do it..:cool:

Possibly in the high 50's, maybe low 60's...............an X642 might be a little better even.:thumbup:

RareBear
07-02-2010, 05:08 PM
I just can't wait to get one. I'm hoping its gonna be good stock on 4 or 5s. Plan on making it the wife's boat. :beerchug:

I bought my wife a Pro Boat Apache 24 to work as the "retriever" boat - she would smash the Titan into the lakeside if I let her drive something that fast!! Heck, I may end up doing the same thing, but will try like heck to keep it water bound!!:laugh:

Looks to be an amazing boat, though - I fell in love w/ it the moment I saw it, and have a red one ordered through Tower for my birthday. 6S all the way!!

Make-a-Wake
07-02-2010, 05:21 PM
I'm honestly amazed that a 540XL can push a 37" mono to 50................. I'm waiting anxiously to see what our first lucky member records as a top speed.

Wonder if the "50" Traxxas claims means 46-47 or 53-54..................big difference there.

johnf
07-02-2010, 05:25 PM
Ishe would smash the Titan into the lakeside if I let her drive something that fast!! Heck, I may end up doing the same thing, but will try like heck to keep it water bound!!:laugh:


haha! Definitely planning to start on 4s here! If it runs decent on that, it is probably what I will stick with. Don't want her smashing it into anything. Just looking for a reliable 35ish mph boat for her.

johnf
07-02-2010, 05:26 PM
Wonder if the "50" Traxxas claims means 46-47 or 53-54..................big difference there.

Hitting 50 isn't a big deal to me with this boat, but if their land based RC claims are any indication, it should be capable.

RareBear
07-02-2010, 06:00 PM
Hitting 50 isn't a big deal to me with this boat, but if their land based RC claims are any indication, it should be capable.

:iagree:

I would be quite surprised if the Titan can't push past 50.m.p.h, as Traxxas' name would take some SERIOUS heat if it didn't, and I highly doubt they would want that at all - who would?:smile:

I think it will do just above 50m.p.h., and I'm sure there will be a crazy amount of people testing it and verifying it - too many toys to check such specs these days!

All I know, it will be fast enough for me, and I won't need a GPS unit reading "50.3m.p.h." to tell me I'm having fun.

Make-a-Wake
07-02-2010, 07:11 PM
:iagree:

I would be quite surprised if the Titan can't push past 50.m.p.h, as Traxxas' name would take some SERIOUS heat if it didn't, and I highly doubt they would want that at all - who would?:smile:

I think it will do just above 50m.p.h., and I'm sure there will be a crazy amount of people testing it and verifying it - too many toys to check such specs these days!

All I know, it will be fast enough for me, and I won't need a GPS unit reading "50.3m.p.h." to tell me I'm having fun.

My thoughts exactly..................folks get too caught up in speed...............i run as a sport boater.................fun is the key ingredient for me!!:bounce:

forescott
07-02-2010, 08:14 PM
I just can't wait to get one. I'm hoping its gonna be good stock on 4 or 5s. Plan on making it the wife's boat. :beerchug:

Who are you kidding!! This is'nt a birthday present for you(oops, I meant your wife. Is it??)

johnf
07-02-2010, 08:22 PM
Who are you kidding!! This is'nt a birthday present for you(oops, I meant your wife. Is it??)

Lmao! Funny you say that! My birthday is at the end of the month. It's been a good excuse for me to pick up a few boats. This one will be hers. I'm picking up a proboat geico cat for myself. Hope they are out this month. Will make for a fun bday weekend.

forescott
07-02-2010, 08:40 PM
I still havent gotten my birthday present from last march!! My wife was kind enough to give me a 200 dollar gift certificate to tower hobbies, and I'm still waiting for them to receive the new Venom P-1 mono.(hopefully late july) My wifes birthday is in July, Hmmmm..... I think she might like a Titan too!!:beerchug:

johnf
07-02-2010, 08:44 PM
Nice! Yeah get one for HER.
:spy::rofl:

kevakov
07-05-2010, 11:03 PM
that removeable center section with the motor , esc, and rudder servo would be great for riggers!!! :spy:

Make-a-Wake
07-05-2010, 11:26 PM
that removeable center section with the motor , esc, and rudder servo would be great for riggers!!! :spy:


Nice observation!:thumbup1:

Jeepers
07-05-2010, 11:30 PM
Possibly in the high 50's, maybe low 60's...............an X642 might be a little better even.:thumbup:

nope not on a 642. the 1527 1.5d is the 1500kv motor that nate mentioned. that motor is capable of turning some very large props 47mm plus easily.

Make-a-Wake
07-05-2010, 11:34 PM
nope not on a 642. the 1527 1.5d is the 1500kv motor that nate mentioned. that motor is capable of turning some very large props 47mm plus easily.


Meaning it wont do high 50's low 60s.........................????

It will run 50 on a 540XL with a 42x59 prop...............................surely the Neu and a 642 is worth another 10 mph.

Jeepers
07-06-2010, 12:30 AM
Meaning it wont do high 50's low 60s.........................????

It will run 50 on a 540XL with a 42x59 prop...............................surely the Neu and a 642 is worth another 10 mph.

my experience with Neus is they like a lot more prop to get the same speed. for some reason they like to be loaded. Example: I ran a 540 9xl (1898kv) on 4s an a 642 and got 45mph with it. I then put my 1521 1.5d (1900kv) motor in and had to run a 445 to get the boat to do the same thing. plus Neus run cooler on bigger props.

besides why would you put a 2000+ watt motor in a 36" hull and only turn a 42 mm prop, along with an HV 180 that the other guy suggested.

read some of these suggestions that Brian Bauss recommends for starting props for that motor.


http://www.castlecreations.com/products/neumotors/nm_boat_apps.html

Make-a-Wake
07-06-2010, 05:13 PM
Thanks for the link, the reasoning behind the 642 was due to the total pitch of 2.640 which is greater than an x447(2.590)......................

BakedMopar
07-06-2010, 05:34 PM
Thanks for the link, the reasoning behind the 642 was due to the total pitch of 2.640 which is greater than an x447(2.590)......................

I see your reasoning for your statement. Thruth is even though certain setups looks good on paper it doesn't always translate to real world. Bigger hulls (and certain electronics) tend to like bigger diameter props for maximum thrust. Then go up on pitch for more speed.

Make-a-Wake
07-06-2010, 05:47 PM
Thanks! Always something new to learn...........just got my first two Neu's in the past couple months...........1527 and 1515.............Love 'em, run cool and strong!

Jacked1
07-07-2010, 08:33 AM
The boat looks pretty good but it is too expensive for me! They should just make a 50mph villain while they are at it!

Jeff Wohlt
07-07-2010, 09:39 AM
Is the motor a 1650KV? I think I saw that somewhere.

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 09:46 AM
The boat looks pretty good but it is too expensive for me! They should just make a 50mph villain while they are at it!

for what you get in a RTR, it's on the cheaper end of the spectrum :thumbup1:

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 09:46 AM
Is the motor a 1650KV? I think I saw that somewhere.

1600KV :thumbup1:

Jeff Wohlt
07-07-2010, 12:17 PM
Just a typical XL motor and 1600 KV. Just wanted to know how they are running 6S in that but smaller prop is fine. How long it will last like that is another story.

BondoBrushless
07-07-2010, 01:17 PM
I have a Castle 1520 1600Kv waiting as a Home Warming gift for my Titan :hug1:

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 01:57 PM
Just a typical XL motor and 1600 KV. Just wanted to know how they are running 6S in that but smaller prop is fine. How long it will last like that is another story.

The VXL Traxxas motors are not to typical
They Rock!
But a nice 1717 on 6s would be sick..!

BondoBrushless
07-07-2010, 02:03 PM
The VXL motors certainly aren't of NEU qaulity but def decent.

No aftermarket cooling availible for the 1717 yet ? Poop.
The 1717 is a pulling motor for sure tho, I have one in a Losi XXL running on 6s and it's sick !
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26726

RareBear
07-07-2010, 04:35 PM
for what you get in a RTR, it's on the cheaper end of the spectrum :thumbup1:

:iagree:

No doubt about it - 50 m.p.h. capable boat w/ a 36" hull, combined w/ batteries, 2.4Ghz Tx and a killer looking boat; definitely a good deal to me @ $325.00 shipped!!:laugh:

Jacked1
07-07-2010, 06:57 PM
Where can you get it for that price? I am just saying it is too expensive for me because i am in college and am on the poor side right now lol.

It is cool that is has room for 12cells! leaves room to put in more power! :)

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 07:01 PM
Where can you get it for that price? I am just saying it is too expensive for me because i am in college and am on the poor side right now lol.

It is cool that is has room for 12cells! leaves room to put in more power! :)

Tower :thumbup1:

Jacked1
07-07-2010, 07:09 PM
I think you could get it from tower for 350 without shipping with one of those deal things on the homepage.. am i missing something? sorry if i am and am being a dummy!

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 07:14 PM
I think you could get it from tower for 350 without shipping with one of those deal things on the homepage.. am i missing something? sorry if i am and am being a dummy!

become a member for 10bucks and they send you coupons once a month and specials to :rockon2:

forescott
07-07-2010, 08:08 PM
I wish towerhobbies sold proboat!

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 08:12 PM
I wish towerhobbies sold proboat!

:iagree:
plus Eflite and Losi :thumbup1:

Jeff Wohlt
07-07-2010, 08:26 PM
I really do not see this motor as being something really special...too many out there...looks like what we called a Nemisis...maybe just cause it is blue but unless it has some special pole version like the AQ made then it should be easy a pretty common motor. Especially for the price.

Love the boat and the design.

BondoBrushless
07-07-2010, 08:32 PM
There isn't anything special about it. Same as a Nemesis,Fiaego, Hong Kong specials.

If anything TRX's demands the specs be a little higher qaulity, hence the screws in the end bells caps LOL

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 08:39 PM
I really do not see this motor as being something really special...too many out there...looks like what we called a Nemisis...maybe just cause it is blue but unless it has some special pole version like the AQ made then it should be easy a pretty common motor. Especially for the price.

Love the boat and the design.

They are built for Traxxas and put out more power than the same size motor from somewhere else
the VXL 3500kv motor is a monster, and many use it with a MM esc in their Trucks :thumbup1:
and most definitely no HC special :doh:

BakedMopar
07-07-2010, 08:42 PM
My Novak equipped vehicles put a spanking on the vxls all day long and run much cooler too.

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 08:45 PM
My Novak equipped vehicles put a spanking on the vxls all day long and run much cooler too.

Hmmm, I don't see those in any RTRs?
I've never had one issue with my VXL and it runs nice and cool :thumbup1:

BakedMopar
07-07-2010, 08:52 PM
They are built for Traxxas and put out more power than the same size motor from somewhere else
the VXL 3500kv motor is a monster, and many use it with a MM esc in their Trucks :thumbup1:
and most definitely no HC special :doh:

Where in this post does it refer to RTR motors?

They are great for the price you pay for them but they aren't that special.

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 09:18 PM
Where in this post does it refer to RTR motors?

.

this was talk about the stock VXL motor

BondoBrushless
07-07-2010, 09:33 PM
They are built for Traxxas and put out more power than the same size motor from somewhere else

Wow, what a load of tripe ! ! !
Now where in the hell did you get that line of garbage from, the Traxxas forum ?
TRX motors are basically Fiaegos with screws in the end bell caps period.
Not junk but surely not the of qaulity you think they are. Your only decieving yourself with blind nonsense and TRX Forum hype.

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 09:44 PM
.......

Visual Perfection
07-07-2010, 10:34 PM
I wish towerhobbies sold proboat!

Agreed!!! :thumbup1:

Jeff Wohlt
07-07-2010, 10:41 PM
I know where ther are blue motors with screws in the rear plate as well.

I do not doubt they are made special but I just think they are same thing different name....there are only so many motor makers out there....They will do a production run to your specs if you order 5,000 or 10,000 so it could be a better pole motor. We know AQ did it

Brushless55
07-07-2010, 10:54 PM
I know where ther are blue motors with screws in the rear plate as well.

I do not doubt they are made special but I just think they are same thing different name....there are only so many motor makers out there....They will do a production run to your specs if you order 5,000 or 10,000 so it could be a better pole motor. We know AQ did it

well one things for sure, they don't do business like Venom :bounce:
and from what I know they are a little different than the regular feigao :spy:

04DarkShadowGT
07-08-2010, 09:01 AM
Tower will never sell proboat or losi. Tower is GP, those others are Horizon.

But I agree, it would be awesome if they did.

RareBear
07-08-2010, 09:26 AM
Where can you get it for that price? I am just saying it is too expensive for me because i am in college and am on the poor side right now lol.

It is cool that is has room for 12cells! leaves room to put in more power! :)

My apologies - didn't mean to sound like this boat is dirt cheap; it's a great value for what you get, but dropping $300.00+ on anything can be painful, so no worries there! I wouldn't be getting this unless it wasn't my birthday gift from my wife!:smile:

As for the $325.00 shipped price tag, if you join Tower's Member program ($9.99), you get free shipping on your order, and you qualify for their discount codes - one code gives you $60.00 off a $300.00 order, and I believe they sell the Titan for $384.99 - hope that helps!!

Jacked1
07-08-2010, 09:33 AM
Yupp it does thanks! I need to get 3 other boats running first anyways so I prolly won't be able to come close to getting if for at least a year!
I am putting 6000 watts:buttrock: in one of those boats so it won''t be cheap :cursing:

RareBear
07-08-2010, 09:38 AM
Yupp it does thanks! I need to get 3 other boats running first anyways so I prolly won't be able to come close to getting if for at least a year!
I am putting 6000 watts:buttrock: in one of those boats so it won''t be cheap :cursing:

6,000 watts!! That's crazy - be sure to post vid's when that project is finished!!:thumbup:

Jacked1
07-08-2010, 09:46 AM
I deff will! There are going to be two huge motors on 9s-8s 100amp hv esc's in 47" deep vee!

RareBear
07-08-2010, 10:34 AM
I deff will! There are going to be two huge motors on 9s-8s 100amp hv esc's in 47" deep vee!

Sounds sweet! Custom built hull, or one you have sourced? Speeds in mind?:biggrin:

BakedMopar
07-08-2010, 11:24 AM
It would be nice if Horizon had a member discount program like Tower.

Jacked1
07-08-2010, 08:59 PM
It is an unknown hull i found on ebay a loooong time ago but i am hoping for the 60mph or better and then be able to run one motor at about 40mph with a bigger gear ratio with batteries in parellel. If it winds up being faster than planned i will be happy!

The hull is pretty similar in size to the old fun cruiser but a little wider and a flatter angle in the "V". I am going to have it geared to one big prop from a gasser and try to get around 15,000 rpms at the prop unloaded and then play with the gear ratio. i should be done with that in about a month or so hopefully! let me know if you have any suggestions! :):)

Brushless55
07-08-2010, 09:11 PM
It would be nice if Horizon had a member discount program like Tower.

That would be killer! :rockon2:

alvinsmith75
07-11-2010, 05:45 PM
FYI, now only $315 for tower members.

Brushless55
07-11-2010, 06:06 PM
FYI, now only $315 for tower members.


Hmm? Isn't the Titan $389.99 minus $60 coupon? = $324.99

alvinsmith75
07-11-2010, 06:12 PM
L33308** Traxxas Titan VXL Brushless 2.4GHz RTR
Club Special
374.99
-60
----------
314.99

When a club member puts is in his/her cart the "Club Special" price pops up.

davidb
07-11-2010, 06:12 PM
how do you get 315.00?:confused2:384.99 minus 60.00 is 324.99?

davidb
07-11-2010, 06:26 PM
Thankyou alvinsmith75. If you have already ordered it they have made the price adjustment to 374.99 minus the 60.00.:thumbup1: What a deal!

alvinsmith75
07-11-2010, 06:59 PM
Unreal huh? Just can't beat that deal. Haven't ordered one yet. Gonna hold out to see what else FE has to offer.

Brushless55
07-11-2010, 07:16 PM
I'm a member and it still comes up $384.99 minus coupon :confused2:

wakeboardfusion
07-12-2010, 08:55 PM
Is there a way without being a gold member to get the 60 off? Like use someone elses code? Im debating pre ordering, or let you guys test em first to see how they are.

befu
07-14-2010, 03:30 PM
This boat is looking very impressive. a 540xl-1600 motor isn't huge either. Is it comparable to a Feigao? those at that KV are rated for about 60ish amps. I wonder what the wattage is when wrunning at that speed (a lot of w's :huh:) :spy:

Also, looks like a traditional deep vee, no flat ride pad?

Looks like we will have to wait and see one run before we get data on the motor and ESC, now July and nothing really new out about this boat.

Really interested in seeing the amperage of it running at speed. Building my 40" deep vee offshore boat now, knowing these numbers would help as my transom is notched for the surface drive, so ride surface is 37". RTR weight will be about the same at around 4.5 lbs, large scarab hull so plenty of room inside. If only I had data NOW!!!!! :sorry: for the scream!

Brian

Rumdog
07-16-2010, 11:37 PM
Just saw a Titan on ebay. They say, shipping next week. Price is way over msrp

Brushless55
07-16-2010, 11:53 PM
Just saw a Titan on ebay. They say, shipping next week. Price is way over msrp

yeah, $450! :doh:
last I saw, they will be shipped the first week of Aug.

Mskiin
07-17-2010, 12:07 AM
Its a scam I would never preorder anything off of ebay. Especially for 50 dollars over suggested retail. My hobby shop is selling them for 379.

BondoBrushless
07-17-2010, 10:21 AM
I wouldn't trust any Ebay store to preorder personally, because they might not receive their inventory like they think they will and you still have to wait like everyone else till the end of August or later. Doesn't make much sense to pay 50 extra bones to wait like the rest of us.
Horizon isn't due to receive them till the end of August so I forsee a wait of a month or more if not Sept ???

mickvk
07-22-2010, 12:24 AM
L33308** Traxxas Titan VXL Brushless 2.4GHz RTR
Club Special
374.99
-60
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314.99

When a club member puts is in his/her cart the "Club Special" price pops up.

I took your advice too and did the preorder. It's going to be nice to have a turnkey boat. I have a lot of "projects" and not much that actually runs!!

airman66285
07-22-2010, 10:00 PM
I wouldn't trust any Ebay store to preorder personally, because they might not receive their inventory like they think they will and you still have to wait like everyone else till the end of August or later. Doesn't make much sense to pay 50 extra bones to wait like the rest of us.
Horizon isn't due to receive them till the end of August so I forsee a wait of a month or more if not Sept ???

I spoke with a Traxxas customer service representative this afternoon and he told me the Titan will not be released now until August. He would not give me a specific date during the month of August - only that it will be ready for distribution out of the warehouse during August. I pre-purchased a red one at our local hobby store (HobbyTown USA) five weeks ago now so I can't stand waiting! We will get snow here before too long and I want to play with it before then.

mickvk
07-23-2010, 10:33 AM
I spoke with a Traxxas customer service representative this afternoon and he told me the Titan will not be released now until August. He would not give me a specific date during the month of August - only that it will be ready for distribution out of the warehouse during August. I pre-purchased a red one at our local hobby store (HobbyTown USA) five weeks ago now so I can't stand waiting! We will get snow here before too long and I want to play with it before then.

I hear ya. I was really chomping at the bit for that new Parkzone Extra 300 plane too. But it's better than getting no information at all!

calcagno45
07-23-2010, 03:02 PM
Word on the street is Traxxas found an issue they are working out. Delivery won't be until September now.

Brushless55
07-23-2010, 09:04 PM
I spoke with a Traxxas customer service representative this afternoon and he told me the Titan will not be released now until August. He would not give me a specific date during the month of August - only that it will be ready for distribution out of the warehouse during August. I pre-purchased a red one at our local hobby store (HobbyTown USA) five weeks ago now so I can't stand waiting! We will get snow here before too long and I want to play with it before then.

I think two weeks ago we have seen dates out till September :crying:

hyrulejedi86
07-24-2010, 10:26 AM
In anticipation of the eventual release of the Titan I was looking at the membership page of towerhobbies. I couldn't however seem to find this $60 discount I keep hearing about people using. How does that work again?

VIKOS
07-24-2010, 11:51 AM
Will this plastic hull handle the heat of the components or even a burnt esc or motor. Or even a high speed turn over. Motors are the same as they use in there cars just with cooling cans. I'd like to see it with 6s on 42mm metal props or even some lipos in a series set up for sure. What I like is there's 2 of everything turn fins and trip tabs. Rarely seen on a rtr. I might get one would love to see it run on wire drive set up. Bet then it hauls ass like a bat out of hell. Plus hulls handle chop better than anything else.

keithbradley
07-24-2010, 12:02 PM
Will this plastic hull handle the heat of the components or even a burnt esc or motor. Or even a high speed turn over. Motors are the same as they use in there cars just with cooling cans. I'd like to see it with 6s on 42mm metal props or even some lipos in a series set up for sure. What I like is there's 2 of everything turn fins and trip tabs. Rarely seen on a rtr. I might get one would love to see it run on wire drive set up. Bet then it hauls ass like a bat out of hell. Plus hulls handle chop better than anything else.

They dont have an XL size motor for their cars...they use Neu-castle motors in their 1/8 scale apps.

forescott
07-25-2010, 10:36 AM
You have to pay an annual fee to become a super saver member. Then you will start getting e-mails with the coupon codes for discounts up to 60-bucks. I think the fee is 10-bucks for the year, Also free shipping over 150 dollar purchases.

hyrulejedi86
07-25-2010, 11:10 AM
So, I'd get an email with the coupons once I joined. Cool!

forescott
07-25-2010, 11:52 AM
Yup, all you really need is the coupon code.

mickvk
07-26-2010, 12:17 AM
In anticipation of the eventual release of the Titan I was looking at the membership page of towerhobbies. I couldn't however seem to find this $60 discount I keep hearing about people using. How does that work again?

It's not explicit in the terms. What happens is that once you join, you get a weekly promotional list of coupon codes. One of which is $60 of an order of 299. plus free shipping as the terms say.

hyrulejedi86
07-26-2010, 04:17 PM
Ok cool. One more question:
If I were to order the titan using the coupon and all then do they wait to process the charge until the item is in stock or does it get charged right away?
If they wait does it work when choosing paypal?

mickvk
07-26-2010, 04:43 PM
Ok cool. One more question:
If I were to order the titan using the coupon and all then do they wait to process the charge until the item is in stock or does it get charged right away?
If they wait does it work when choosing paypal?

Tower bills when shipped, not when ordered. Needless to say I hope to get billed real soon :)

I used a credit card but I would guess that is regardless of payment method.

BakedMopar
07-26-2010, 05:35 PM
I met a guy yesterday while we were running and he said that he put one of these on order. FE is slowly catching on here and it's nice that traxxas will be an addition to the entry level boater.

forescott
07-26-2010, 06:27 PM
Ok cool. One more question:
If I were to order the titan using the coupon and all then do they wait to process the charge until the item is in stock or does it get charged right away?
If they wait does it work when choosing paypal?

They bill before shipping, and yes it works the same with paypal. & they will honor the coupon codes as well, no matter how long ago you ordered.

Jacked1
07-27-2010, 08:19 AM
hyrulejedi, Nice avatar!!:hug1:

hyrulejedi86
07-27-2010, 07:31 PM
Go Bucks!! I had row 8 tickets last season because I'm a Grad Prof student. Right behind the south stands goal post! Pretty awesome!!

keithbradley
07-27-2010, 10:07 PM
Tower changed their stock status from "Late July" to "Late August". I canceled my order and am going to put the money elsewhere. Here in Michigan, Late August is almost closing time for boat season, and I wouldnt be surpised if "Late August" turned into "Late September". With such a late release date, I'll just buy one next year if I still want one.

04DarkShadowGT
07-27-2010, 10:43 PM
Tower changed their stock status from "Late July" to "Late August". I canceled my order and am going to put the money elsewhere. Here in Michigan, Late August is almost closing time for boat season, and I wouldnt be surpised if "Late August" turned into "Late September". With such a late release date, I'll just buy one next year if I still want one.

Me too, same reasons. Ill just wait until spring.

Jacked1
07-28-2010, 08:35 AM
Go Bucks!! I had row 8 tickets last season because I'm a Grad Prof student. Right behind the south stands goal post! Pretty awesome!!

That is pretty sweet! They need an rc boat club there! I got one game in the front row because i am an athlete.:smile: Then the rest would have had a better veiw from my couch:doh: haha

hyrulejedi86
07-30-2010, 11:03 PM
So, sorry to ask again, but when does that coupon come? I've become a member already last week. Received a mailer with some coupons inside but I didn't see one for $60 off yet. And I haven't gotten an email with one yet.

Im just wondering because I joined for the Titan and want to make sure I get it and don't accidentally miss it or throw it away.
Thanks!!

skellyo
07-30-2010, 11:13 PM
So, sorry to ask again, but when does that coupon come? I've become a member already last week. Received a mailer with some coupons inside but I didn't see one for $60 off yet. And I haven't gotten an email with one yet.

Im just wondering because I joined for the Titan and want to make sure I get it and don't accidentally miss it or throw it away.
Thanks!!

Check your account settings on Tower and be sure you're set up to receive promotional notifications via e-mail. Do this by going to Your Account, then under Account Maintenance, click Your Account. On that page you'll see a line in small print just below the e-mail address section that reads: "Tower Hobbies notifies customers of new product introductions, special buys and other money-saving offers via e-mail. If you want to receive such notifications, leave this box checked." Be sure that box is checked.

bustitup
07-31-2010, 12:35 AM
Just call tower and explain u joined and and need the coupon NOW

hyrulejedi86
07-31-2010, 07:07 AM
I suppose I could call. If I don't get the email this week i'll call. I did make sure that the box was checked on my account. So.. we'll just see what happens!

Thanks again

osprey21
07-31-2010, 08:09 AM
IIRC they send out (email) the $60 off code one a month.

forescott
07-31-2010, 11:07 AM
I suppose I could call. If I don't get the email this week i'll call. I did make sure that the box was checked on my account. So.. we'll just see what happens!

Thanks again

Try entering this code for $60.00 off......016JY

It should work.

louleslie
07-31-2010, 04:34 PM
________________________
Award winning, vaunted, Traxxas Support:

I pre ordered a Traxxas Titan RC Boat from Tower Hobbies. Any idea when they will ship? I have seen info from Traxxas saying: 1.Early July,2. Late July, 3.Early August, 4.Late August.
When is it, 1.Christmas 2.I don't have any information because the engineers haven't released anything but ads, 3. is not my department because I don't do windows, 4. the people who know are hiking on the Applachian Trail?

Is Tony formerly of B.P. running your P.R. now? Your image is taking hits on the message boards.

Lou Leslie

The All-New Traxxas Titan® Brushless Muscleboat!


AVAILABLE LATE JULY 2010
Suggested Selling Price $399
The World's Fastest Ready-To-Race® Boat!
Hello Lou Leslie,
__________________________________________________ ______________________
Thanks for the excellent e-mail that I am reading and replying to here on a Saturday afternoon. It certainly does increase my motivation to help! It looks like the release has been delayed. When there is an official update it will be posted at www.traxxas.com.

Best Regards,
Steve Lindholm
Traxxas Customer Support

r1dermon
07-31-2010, 04:58 PM
i havent had many good experiences with traxxas support. over the phone they are helpful, online they are one of the worst companies i've dealt with.

osprey21
08-01-2010, 05:27 AM
I suppose I could call. If I don't get the email this week i'll call. I did make sure that the box was checked on my account. So.. we'll just see what happens!

Thanks again
I just now received new codes - $60 off is 010B7

forescott
08-01-2010, 11:53 AM
Rojer that.... Got that code today too!

hyrulejedi86
08-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Just got mine in the email today as well.

Thanks all

RareBear
08-03-2010, 06:32 PM
________________________
Award winning, vaunted, Traxxas Support:

I pre ordered a Traxxas Titan RC Boat from Tower Hobbies. Any idea when they will ship? I have seen info from Traxxas saying: 1.Early July,2. Late July, 3.Early August, 4.Late August.
When is it, 1.Christmas 2.I don't have any information because the engineers haven't released anything but ads, 3. is not my department because I don't do windows, 4. the people who know are hiking on the Applachian Trail?

Is Tony formerly of B.P. running your P.R. now? Your image is taking hits on the message boards.

Lou Leslie

The All-New Traxxas Titan® Brushless Muscleboat!


AVAILABLE LATE JULY 2010
Suggested Selling Price $399
The World's Fastest Ready-To-Race® Boat!
Hello Lou Leslie,
__________________________________________________ ______________________
Thanks for the excellent e-mail that I am reading and replying to here on a Saturday afternoon. It certainly does increase my motivation to help! It looks like the release has been delayed. When there is an official update it will be posted at www.traxxas.com.

Best Regards,
Steve Lindholm
Traxxas Customer Support


Waiting is no fun, but give them a chance - no company enjoys a delay anymore than we do, and life happens - looks like Traxxas is working out a bug, rather than simply letting the boat go out the door, only to disappoint people.

They could do this like other companies have in the past (ship out a faulty product to make sales), but even though it's frustrating to wait, we should cut them a bit of slack for doing the right thing, as I would MUCH rather have a functioning boat in September than a boat dead in the water in early August.

Just my .02 cents, as I have a Titan on order, and am very excited about it as well, delay or not.:thumbup:

Make-a-Wake
08-03-2010, 06:56 PM
Apparently availability time for the Titan is now late september.................Not a bad deal if your an Aussie or Kiwi..........you'll have them for spring and summer!

keithbradley
08-03-2010, 07:02 PM
I dont think they are "fixing the bugs". I know a lot of people are saying that, but the design process should have been over with long ago. They are more than likely waiting for their shipment of boats from whoever they have building them in china. Getting things like this in large quantities by boat always takes months to do and can be pretty unpredictable. My .02 is that Traxxas (or any other company) should be upfront with their paying customers and tell them honestly when the item they paid for will be delivered.
They just changed their website for "available late July" to "available in September" but they didnt just find out TODAY. They try to avoid people canceling orders by dragging you on as long as possible. Its not a good situation for either the customer or Traxxas but in my opinion they should be up front about everything

Rumdog
08-03-2010, 07:03 PM
From the website: AVAILABLE SEPTEMBER 2010
Due to unforeseen circumstances, the Titan availability date has been moved from July to September 2010. We know you are counting on Traxxas to give you the fastest, most powerful, and most reliable boat possible; and we needed a little extra time to make sure the Titan meets those expectations. We know summer is going by fast and offer our sincerest apology for the delay. We think in the end though, your wait will be rewarded with a truly fantastic level of performance that’s unlike anything else on the water.

To signup for updates on the Traxxas Titan, click here and select Traxxas Titan updates

forescott
08-03-2010, 07:12 PM
Problem is they can't tell you for sure when it will be out. There are soo many things that can happen to slow or delay the final shipment date. They can only set a schedule and try to meet their deadline. Most of the time it doesn't happen. A little delay is to be expected. What I would like to see is a company that adds 2-months to a products scheduled release date. That way a delay in production would be covered, or if it were on schedule it would be released early. How cool would that be??

forescott
08-03-2010, 07:13 PM
From the website: AVAILABLE SEPTEMBER 2010
Due to unforeseen circumstances, the Titan availability date has been moved from July to September 2010. We know you are counting on Traxxas to give you the fastest, most powerful, and most reliable boat possible; and we needed a little extra time to make sure the Titan meets those expectations. We know summer is going by fast and offer our sincerest apology for the delay. We think in the end though, your wait will be rewarded with a truly fantastic level of performance that’s unlike anything else on the water.

To signup for updates on the Traxxas Titan, click here and select Traxxas Titan updates

I wish venom would put something like this on their website instead of leaving us in the dark.

hyrulejedi86
08-03-2010, 08:26 PM
Problem is they can't tell you for sure when it will be out. There are soo many things that can happen to slow or delay the final shipment date. They can only set a schedule and try to meet their deadline. Most of the time it doesn't happen. A little delay is to be expected. What I would like to see is a company that adds 2-months to a products scheduled release date. That way a delay in production would be covered, or if it were on schedule it would be released early. How cool would that be??

+1.

Brushless55
08-03-2010, 09:08 PM
I dont think they are "fixing the bugs". I know a lot of people are saying that, but the design process should have been over with long ago. They are more than likely waiting for their shipment of boats from whoever they have building them in china. Getting things like this in large quantities by boat always takes months to do and can be pretty unpredictable. My .02 is that Traxxas (or any other company) should be upfront with their paying customers and tell them honestly when the item they paid for will be delivered.
They just changed their website for "available late July" to "available in September" but they didnt just find out TODAY. They try to avoid people canceling orders by dragging you on as long as possible. Its not a good situation for either the customer or Traxxas but in my opinion they should be up front about everything

:iagree:
I think they knew a month or longer they would not be out, but Traxxas keeps those orders filled and not telling the truth about when their products are really due out

mickvk
08-03-2010, 10:24 PM
:iagree:
I think they knew a month or longer they would not be out, but Traxxas keeps those orders filled and not telling the truth about when their products are really due out

I think they were aggressive didn't build any slack into the production process dealing with China. Ok, their mistake. But would you rather have them play it safe and not share any pre-release information with the public? If so, then folks can just turn the channel and avoid the hype if it bothers you. Personally, I appreciate the info even if it's subject to change.

Second, yes, they probably knew it weeks ago but it doesn't make sense that they were withholding the "truth" to cause any harm. I imagine they took time to make the most accurate next-estimate instead of aggressively promising again like last time, ya know?

v-spec
08-03-2010, 10:27 PM
Traxxas does this with almost every new item that they release and for the record most everything from Traxxas is made in Taiwan not China. Technically Taiwan is part of China but most Taiwanese won't agree with that. Taiwan tends to have much better QC when compared with Mainland China although they've got some shoddy products sometimes a lot of the stuff made there can and does rival products made in Japan.

properchopper
08-03-2010, 11:40 PM
Guys, I've been carefully avoiding jumping in on this thread but I just have to share some thoughts. I hope I'm wrong, really, but here goes :

It's possible the delay has to do with shipping logistics. Reduced consumer goods demand in the last two years, due to the downturned economy has caused shippers to drydock container vessels and containers are almost impossible to get.
Yet I don't think that's what's holding up delivery of the Titan but if that's all it is what I'm going to say next is way off base, and I hope I am.

Traxxas is a very reputable company known for good stuff. The Villian was a great boat in its time and still works for some. BUT the introduction of the Titan and its claims of being the "Fastest, most powerful, and most reliable boat possible" may have been premature, claim-wise. A boat that retails for $ 384.95 [ Tower] less promotional discount of up to $ 60 can't have a very high build cost. A 36" boat on 6S [6S batteries not included] doing 50 mph for more than a very short time, really ? Consider this [ did Traxxas?] : Affordable high speed / runtime { it's a sport boat for fun running regardless of the "race ready" hype} / reliability : CHOOSE ANY TWO !!
Reality check, guys ! My take is that the boys at Traxxas have discovered this from testing out their claims and need to re-do something to make this boat live up to the pre-release claims. Again, I hope I'm wrong and the boat lives up to everyone's expectations, but the guy who says " I told you so" laughs last.

If this ruffles anyone's feathers, so be it. For those that have one on order, I hope it works for you. If not, catch some episodes of Mad TV's "Lowered Expectations" skits.

Peace Out, :Peace_Sign:

Tony

mickvk
08-03-2010, 11:47 PM
No ruffled feathers here Tony. I have a Traxxas Rustler than can go "70MPH" wink wink. I know how hard it is to get in the 50MPH club on water :)

BakedMopar
08-03-2010, 11:58 PM
It's funny how people jumped on pro-boat because it's dates got pushed back. Traxxas brings in a load of newbies with their items with marketing. Does Traxxas have any product that doesn't list a speed claim? This is my biggest gripe with this company. I'm not saying that they can't back up those claims but because that's what the box says everyone thinks there going that fast whether it's tuned or not.

I really hope they get everything sorted and this boat lives up to the hype!

Brushless55
08-04-2010, 12:39 AM
Guys, I've been carefully avoiding jumping in on this thread but I just have to share some thoughts. I hope I'm wrong, really, but here goes :

It's possible the delay has to do with shipping logistics. Reduced consumer goods demand in the last two years, due to the downturned economy has caused shippers to drydock container vessels and containers are almost impossible to get.
Yet I don't think that's what's holding up delivery of the Titan but if that's all it is what I'm going to say next is way off base, and I hope I am.

Traxxas is a very reputable company known for good stuff. The Villian was a great boat in its time and still works for some. BUT the introduction of the Titan and its claims of being the "Fastest, most powerful, and most reliable boat possible" may have been premature, claim-wise. A boat that retails for $ 384.95 [ Tower] less promotional discount of up to $ 60 can't have a very high build cost. A 36" boat on 6S [6S batteries not included] doing 50 mph for more than a very short time, really ? Consider this [ did Traxxas?] : Affordable high speed / runtime { it's a sport boat for fun running regardless of the "race ready" hype} / reliability : CHOOSE ANY TWO !!
Reality check, guys ! My take is that the boys at Traxxas have discovered this from testing out their claims and need to re-do something to make this boat live up to the pre-release claims. Again, I hope I'm wrong and the boat lives up to everyone's expectations, but the guy who says " I told you so" laughs last.

If this ruffles anyone's feathers, so be it. For those that have one on order, I hope it works for you. If not, catch some episodes of Mad TV's "Lowered Expectations" skits.

Peace Out, :Peace_Sign:

Tony

:iagree:
I think part of it has to do with marketing to
like most anything Traxxas sells, its always pushed back :crying:

Steven Vaccaro
08-04-2010, 05:48 AM
Guys, I've been carefully avoiding jumping in on this thread but I just have to share some thoughts. I hope I'm wrong, really, but here goes :

It's possible the delay has to do with shipping logistics. Reduced consumer goods demand in the last two years, due to the downturned economy has caused shippers to drydock container vessels and containers are almost impossible to get.
Yet I don't think that's what's holding up delivery of the Titan but if that's all it is what I'm going to say next is way off base, and I hope I am.

Traxxas is a very reputable company known for good stuff. The Villian was a great boat in its time and still works for some. BUT the introduction of the Titan and its claims of being the "Fastest, most powerful, and most reliable boat possible" may have been premature, claim-wise. A boat that retails for $ 384.95 [ Tower] less promotional discount of up to $ 60 can't have a very high build cost. A 36" boat on 6S [6S batteries not included] doing 50 mph for more than a very short time, really ? Consider this [ did Traxxas?] : Affordable high speed / runtime { it's a sport boat for fun running regardless of the "race ready" hype} / reliability : CHOOSE ANY TWO !!
Reality check, guys ! My take is that the boys at Traxxas have discovered this from testing out their claims and need to re-do something to make this boat live up to the pre-release claims. Again, I hope I'm wrong and the boat lives up to everyone's expectations, but the guy who says " I told you so" laughs last.

If this ruffles anyone's feathers, so be it. For those that have one on order, I hope it works for you. If not, catch some episodes of Mad TV's "Lowered Expectations" skits.

Peace Out, :Peace_Sign:

Tony

These delays are exactly why I don't take preorders on items.

Speed claims are a double edged sword. They sell items, but can also be a problem if those claims are hard to reach. The Villian Ex was first released with speed claims of 30mph.

v-spec
08-04-2010, 11:55 AM
I think a lot of newbies will probably think it's going even faster than 50mph. Things on water look so fast that if your not familiar you'd swear it was double what it actually was. I get people at our model boat pond saying "damn how fast is that thing looks like 65-70 to me!" I say it's actually about 40-45 and they don't believe it.

I'm sure it'll get to 50 or maybe a little better but I'm not so sure it's just going to be a battery swap once out of the box. I'm sure traxxas is reading all this so maybe they'll go and prove all the non believers wrong? I guess we will find out before long! I just hope they really delayed it to give everyone time to order a gps and or an eagle tree!

properchopper
08-04-2010, 12:02 PM
These delays are exactly why I don't take preorders on items.

Speed claims are a double edged sword. They sell items, but can also be a problem if those claims are hard to reach. The Villian Ex was first released with speed claims of 30mph.

In an old issue of RC Boat Modeler there was an article about the Villian EX vs the Twinstorm. The Villian EX did 19 mph IIRC.

Steven Vaccaro
08-04-2010, 12:04 PM
I think a lot of newbies will probably think it's going even faster than 50mph. Things on water look so fast that if your not familiar you'd swear it was double what it actually was. I get people at our model boat pond saying "damn how fast is that thing looks like 65-70 to me!" I say it's actually about 40-45 and they don't believe it.

I'm sure it'll get to 50 or maybe a little better but I'm not so sure it's just going to be a battery swap once out of the box. I'm sure traxxas is reading all this so maybe they'll go and prove all the non believers wrong? I guess we will find out before long! I just hope they really delayed it to give everyone time to order a gps and or an eagle tree!

Traxxas is reading behind, there are a few forum members with the domain "traxxas" in their email addresses. It would be nice if they joined the conversation.

Steven Vaccaro
08-04-2010, 12:06 PM
In an old issue of RC Boat Modeler there was an article about the Villian EX vs the Twinstorm. The Villian EX did 19 mph IIRC.

Cheap gps units and radar guns have leveled the playing field. :thumbup1:

johnf
08-04-2010, 12:13 PM
Traxxas is reading behind, there are a few forum members with the domain "traxxas" in their email addresses. It would be nice if they joined the conversation.

I'm gonna assume that is a good thing. There is a TON of knowledge on this forum. I'm hoping their presence here will be reflected in the final, hopefully successful, product. It would be nice if they would add to the conversation. I'm curious to know what "bug" was found.

Brushless55
08-04-2010, 12:40 PM
These delays are exactly why I don't take preorders on items.

Speed claims are a double edged sword. They sell items, but can also be a problem if those claims are hard to reach. The Villian Ex was first released with speed claims of 30mph.

Smart man Steven :beerchug:

RareBear
08-04-2010, 01:21 PM
Lots of good back & forth w/ valid claims on both sides. As for me, I don't mind waiting for a good RTR boat, and I don't believe Traxxas will release anything less than in terms of quality, as I have owned several of their items in the past, and have been quite impressed. Were they, or are they, the best? No, but they're close, and I think the Titan will be a real performer, no matter what.

I'll have a friend radar my boat (simply for fun, and to say I did), but I sure won't be picking up a phone to dial Traxxas support if the boat doesn't do 50 m.p.h. - I'm blessed to be able to afford and enjoy a hobby like this, and there are much bigger things for me to fret over.

Of course, this is just me. :) I'm as anxious as anyone and want to get this thing in the water on 6S, but till that happens, I'll keep smiling! ;-)

mickvk
08-04-2010, 01:47 PM
In an old issue of RC Boat Modeler there was an article about the Villian EX vs the Twinstorm. The Villian EX did 19 mph IIRC.

Nice! I'm going to get a Titan that will do 50 for sure on day 1... On the UPS truck :)

I'm not hatin, just joking.

RareBear
08-04-2010, 03:34 PM
Nice! I'm going to get a Titan that will do 50 for sure on day 1... On the UPS truck :)

I'm not hatin, just joking.

:laugh: That's a good one! But, I think UPS could pull off 60 m.p.h. or better!

On a more serious note, I think Traxxas would really be shooting themselves in the foot if this boat didn't nudge 50 m.p.h. - it sure "looked" like 50 m.p.h. in the videos, and I'm thinking it should get it done. Of course, this is based on the video.

That being said, too many people own radar guns & GPS units, amongst other things, so I would think Traxxas would be quite sure of its capability before release, even though past vehicles (Villain) were a bit overstated. :smile:

We'll just have to wait & see! The boats will show up at some point, and you know everyone will be heading to the local pond/lake w/ their GPS in hand!!!

mickvk
08-04-2010, 04:36 PM
I dont mean to hijack the thread, but since we have a month or two to kill, wanna play How Fast Is That Boat? Here, do you think this would compete with a Titan. It did have a GPS in it :)

http://krocko.com/ftp_bucket/DSC_3374.wmv

RareBear
08-04-2010, 05:09 PM
I dont mean to hijack the thread, but since we have a month or two to kill, wanna play How Fast Is That Boat? Here, do you think this would compete with a Titan. It did have a GPS in it :)

http://krocko.com/ftp_bucket/DSC_3374.wmv


55 m.p.h.???:confused1:

keithbradley
08-04-2010, 10:37 PM
I say low 40's.

keithbradley
08-04-2010, 10:44 PM
These delays are exactly why I don't take preorders on items.

Speed claims are a double edged sword. They sell items, but can also be a problem if those claims are hard to reach. The Villian Ex was first released with speed claims of 30mph.

I respect that descision. That is the high road in my opinion.

I definitely dont have a problem with "information" being released, and wouldnt choose to be left in the dark as someone said. However, taking preorders under the assumption of a false delivery date is a lot different.

Yes, I do beleive Traxxas has intentionally omitted information in regards to the release of this boat for their own personal gain. If they told everyone a month or two ago that this boat wouldnt be out until September or later they would lose a lot of orders and potential customers would purchase competetors boats instead of the titan. I'm not saying it's not expected either, just not appreciated.

befu
08-04-2010, 10:53 PM
Trying to picture that compared to my little 24" mono which runs a solid 36 and looks slower, so I will take 43mph

wizard122
08-04-2010, 11:17 PM
I hope they get this right this time. I have raced RC Cars for over 20 yrs and not a single Traxxas Car has gone as fast as they say with out dumping a ton of money into it and if you could get it up to speed most of the time it would self destruct. With the exception of the Slash in stock trim. They all fall apart thats why Losi, HPI, Associated all came out with there trucks to run in a modified class. Reliability at those speeds you can't get with a Traxxas it just isn't there.

mschaffer66
08-04-2010, 11:24 PM
I dunno but my infatuation with this thing wore off quickly. At first I was all geeked for it, but now I'm like, "I'm not spending $400 on a plastic boat even if its a "plastic you've never saw before""

The more I think about it the less impressed I am with it....but thats just me.

Brushless55
08-04-2010, 11:28 PM
I respect that descision. That is the high road in my opinion.

I definitely dont have a problem with "information" being released, and wouldnt choose to be left in the dark as someone said. However, taking preorders under the assumption of a false delivery date is a lot different.

Yes, I do beleive Traxxas has intentionally omitted information in regards to the release of this boat for their own personal gain. If they told everyone a month or two ago that this boat wouldnt be out until September or later they would lose a lot of orders and potential customers would purchase competetors boats instead of the titan. I'm not saying it's not expected either, just not appreciated.

Bingo! :beerchug:

forescott
08-05-2010, 05:09 AM
I dunno but my infatuation with this thing wore off quickly. At first I was all geeked for it, but now I'm like, "I'm not spending $400 on a plastic boat even if its a "plastic you've never saw before""

The more I think about it the less impressed I am with it....but thats just me.

I'll second that.

mickvk
08-05-2010, 08:52 AM
I say low 40's.

You guys are good... That run was 41MPH on a 6S 2200kv with a Y535. Certainly not the most I ever got out of it, but 50 is a big number. On the other hand, I'm kinda new at this so who knows, maybe traxxas can nail it. In any case, I'm looking for a turnkey vee so I'm still looking forward to the titan.

properchopper
08-05-2010, 10:34 AM
I'm going to play advocate to my own devil here and say that Traxxas should be given some slack for witholding release so they can GET IT RIGHT (if that's what it's all about). Sure, they prematurely bragged about speeds and such, but s**t happens - look at the cellphone market[Apple]. Traxxas is a "for-profit" business targeting a relatively unsophisticated demographic and exaggerated claims are unfortunately all-to-common in such arenas. OTOH their marketing department definitely should be criticized for that "race-ready" claim. [My 2001 Ford Explorer is similarly "race-ready" if I was going to race a one-legged midget around the block]. Consider that I just built an ACTUAL "race-ready" P-Mono with absolute top-of-the-line stuff and if you include good batteries and a decent charger and Tx/Rx the tab came to around $ 1800.00. The thing is, if I wanted an affordably priced, sharp looking rtr to play in bouncy water out at the river, the Titan would be my first choice. Let's face it- you're getting a whole lot of bang for your money with this boat and once Traxxas gets it right, even though the speed claims (or internals) might need adjusting prior to release, it can only be a nice way to enjoy a day at the water's edge. :biggrin:

mschaffer66
08-05-2010, 10:40 AM
I think another thing a lot of people may not realize is that the guy driving that boat in the videos and at this supposed 50mph has had more stick time on that boat than anyone out there and is probably some sort of pro driver. And god knows how many hours of video they had to shoot to get those few minutes of nice clean running. That guy may have stuffed it 100's of times before getting that little bit of video where it looks like its on the ragged edge of control...

properchopper
08-05-2010, 11:00 AM
I think another thing a lot of people may not realize is that the guy driving that boat in the videos and at this supposed 50mph has had more stick time on that boat than anyone out there and is probably some sort of pro driver. And god knows how many hours of video they had to shoot to get those few minutes of nice clean running. That guy may have stuffed it 100's of times before getting that little bit of video where it looks like its on the ragged edge of control...

Excellent point ! Many edit/cuts on the vid. Your point is well taken in the r/c heli world ! I've bought several helis based on how they flew in the promo vids and couldn't get them off the ground , crashed, and wasted lots of money. Obviously the demo pilots were highly experienced, yet these birds were represented as entry level. OUCH !!!

Steven Vaccaro
08-05-2010, 12:29 PM
Where did they publicly say the delay was due to speed issues? Its probably just some production delay. It happens all the time.

Flying Scotsman
08-05-2010, 12:49 PM
In an old issue of RC Boat Modeler there was an article about the Villian EX vs the Twinstorm. The Villian EX did 19 mph IIRC.

I remember that article, speed claims are just that..claims.

Newbies will buy the boat based on dubious performance claims, it looks good on paper, but to perform at 50mph will cost a lot of money and the hull will probably crack or be flexing too much at that speed.

Douggie

forescott
08-05-2010, 01:01 PM
All I know is that if it doesn't do 50 were gonna hear about it here! :popcorn2:

Rumdog
08-05-2010, 01:08 PM
you guys are highly underestimating the strength of abs plastic. I used to work in injection molding where we made automotive parts. Abs, if done properly can be much stronger than fiberglass! Trust me. When setting up a machine and running the first few shots into the mold, the material is tested for structural integrity/brittleness to make sure the mix is correct. The barbaric test involves basically throwing the part at the concrete as hard as you can. Any chips/cracks, and the mix is off. Lets see someone do that with fiberglass. I still have faith in this boat as well. Plastic may not be as pretty but you wont have chipping gelcoat either. I dont know why everyone is assuming it is gonna be paper thin plastic?

Flying Scotsman
08-05-2010, 01:16 PM
Rummy, every model ABS hull I have touched would flex a lot....thin wall. Automotive ABS parts are another story...light and very strong.

Edit: I am not knocking this boat...it looks great but the hype????

Douggie

Rumdog
08-05-2010, 01:32 PM
Understood Douggie. I had my hands on a Proboat Widowmaker last weekend. That thing is ridiculously thin. Hopefully, Traxxas stating, we'll be happy it isn't glass, means it is quite thick. Who knows? I personally think the biggest flaw is that it is wired from the factory to run 1p. It should be setup for 2p right out of the box.

forescott
08-05-2010, 01:36 PM
[My 2001 Ford Explorer is similarly "race-ready" if I was going to race a one-legged midget around the block].

Is this a new race-class??

properchopper
08-05-2010, 01:42 PM
Is this a new race-class??

:rockon2::rockon2:

BakedMopar
08-05-2010, 02:05 PM
Abs or plastic will start it's life strong but after weathering it becomes weak unlike glass boats IMO. My full sized boat is almost 30 years old and the hull is structruly sound but everything eles had been replaced at least once.

BTW the only boat I stuffed and flooded due to a cracked hatch was and abs one.

I agree with Tony that when you buy all top-notch products you will easily spend more than a grand on a 50 mph mono boat. So to see Traxxas do this is certently pleasant.

keithbradley
08-05-2010, 06:35 PM
I definitely dont think their delay is due to speed issues or the ability of the boat to live under the conditions of 50+mph runs. They havent been too worried about it with other Traxxas products. The traxxas rustler vxl was claimed to be a 70+mph truck with a 3s lipo and 31/76 gearing. I ran one with that gearing and a 40c 6500mah lipo and got 55.7mph GPS. Granted thats fast, but its not 70 (Im not saying its not possible with adding weight/changing to foam tires/ect, just not as easy as they make it out to be). With that gearing, the motor was over 200degrees after 3 minutes of runtime...Not a useable setup by any means.

Sorry to chase a rabbit and get slightly off topic, Im just saying I dont beleive traxxas is withholding the titan because they are making it hit 50mph safely. The Titan is on a slow boat from China (or Taiwan, or Hong Kong, wherever they are being made) and thats why they are not released. I think the "we are taking the time to make sure its right" thing is just a way to put a positive spin on a negative situation.

Im not trying to bash Traxxas either, and Im not saying other companies dont do the same or worse. Traxxas is a good company and I think the release of this boat is going to do a lot to get newcomers into the world of FE. The titan will be a fast, fun boat and I have a couple friends who ordered one so I cant wait for it to come out. Thankfully I have a boat that will smoke it so I dont get shown up!!!

Brushless55
08-05-2010, 08:02 PM
I agree, this will be a great way for newcomers to this hobby
and it sucks how Traxxas seams to bait then drag things out as they do on all their new rcs

oscarel
08-14-2010, 08:29 AM
So I just happen to come across 3 guys at a local lake in McKinney, TX yesterday and they were from Traxxas testing the Titan. They had one that was GPS'd at 52 and they were running them like crazy. They were testing with 6S and the Nicads and running in full speed in turns and it never once flipped while I was there.

electric
08-14-2010, 09:14 AM
So I just happen to come across 3 guys at a local lake in McKinney, TX yesterday and they were from Traxxas testing the Titan. They had one that was GPS'd at 52 and they were running them like crazy. They were testing with 6S and the Nicads and running in full speed in turns and it never once flipped while I was there.

Well unless this guy is making up a story,the answer to 5omph is now here after months of discussion and debate. This boat has generated more chatter than any boat I have seen even before it has been released!! For all the time and money I have spent building and getting my Triton to this speed, I find it impressive they are doing it at the price point. To me, the last question is how well the Hull will hold up.

Jeff Wohlt
08-14-2010, 09:25 AM
Anyone remember the 32" Challenger that Fine sold...thing was like a tank as far as strength. So do what we all do...line it with FG or CF cloth...not the first.

I am not affraid of ABS after running a EV into a dock at 40+ and watched it bounce off. Plenty of strength as Rum said.

oscarel
08-14-2010, 09:53 AM
I wish I had a camera with me, the guys say they're up there all the time so I'll keep my eyes out for them.

keithbradley
08-14-2010, 11:16 AM
Were they making prop changes at all? I'm curious if they change props when going to 6s lipo. They don't mention it in promos, but the math doesn't quite seem to work out for that boat to go that fast on a 42mm prop.
It does look like its running pretty dry in the vids though so who knows...

oscarel
08-14-2010, 11:33 AM
I didn't see them change between lipo and nicads. They ran till it started slowing down, changed batteries and put it back out. They did have a heck of a lot of batteries with them, I'd guess around 50 each lip and nicad.

Brushless55
08-14-2010, 11:58 AM
I didn't see them change between lipo and nicads. They ran till it started slowing down, changed batteries and put it back out. They did have a heck of a lot of batteries with them, I'd guess around 50 each lip and nicad.

50mph on the stock Nicad
or did ya mean 50 batteries :rofl:
by the way, nimh

oscarel
08-14-2010, 12:22 PM
No, I didn't say they ran 50+mph on nicad. I didn't see the GPS'd run that showed 52. But I did see it running on 6S lipo and it looked pretty darn fast.

Brushless55
08-14-2010, 12:26 PM
I hope this isn't a Traxxas plug :spy:

oscarel
08-14-2010, 12:37 PM
Nope, no Traxxas plug here. I was really surprised to see them running where they were. I've lived in McKinney for 5 years and that was the first time I've seen anyone running boats other than sailboats there. I was looking around on the forums this morning and came across this thread and I posted what I saw.

BakedMopar
09-08-2010, 12:06 AM
So the local guy finally cancelled his order for this one. The oher guy cancelled his order for the UL-1 also. I know one of them are looking at the pro-boat cat.

JMSCARD
09-08-2010, 12:27 AM
I am gonna lay my guess on the line....

I ran my rustler vxl out of the box with stock gearing on a 3s 4000 mah flightmax 20c lipo and got 57 mph.... with the box stock gearing... I then put on the larger pinion which they included and hit the 66 mph.... they said 65mph on the box...

I also have a erevo brushless edition.... said 50mph plus on 6s.... and if it doesn't do 50mph then my delta force 33 (neu 1521) doesn't do 25mph....

all I am saying is traxxas usually doesn't exaggerate....

My bet..... if anyone would like to lay down a voucher.... is with minimal adjustments and prep work.... this sucker is gonna hit just over 50mph stock on 6s..... thats my story and I am sticking too it :beerchug:

Brushless55
09-08-2010, 12:52 AM
I am gonna lay my guess on the line....

I ran my rustler vxl out of the box with stock gearing on a 3s 4000 mah flightmax 20c lipo and got 57 mph.... with the stock box gearing... I then put on the larger pinion which they included and hit the 66 mph.... they said 65mph on the box...

I also have a erevo brushless edition.... said 50mph plus on 6s.... and if it doesn't do 50mph then my delta force 33 (neu 1521) doesn't do 25mph....

all I am saying is traxxas usually doesn't exaggerate....

My bet..... if anyone would like to lay down a voucher.... is with minimal adjustments and prep work.... this sucker is gonna hit just over 50mph stock on 6s..... thats my story and I am sticking too it :beerchug:


:iagree:

keithbradley
09-08-2010, 05:45 AM
My rustler vxl box said 70mph, and my e recvo brushless said 65+ mph on the box:confused2:

JMSCARD
09-08-2010, 07:22 AM
My rustler vxl box said 70mph, and my e recvo brushless said 65+ mph on the box:confused2:

oops yes my rustler does say 70mph... My jato 3.3 says 65mph..... Anyway it's darn close to 70mph with the gearing provided.... My erevo said 50mph out o the box with provided gearing..... The 65mph for the erevo is with optional not included gearing change (I'm sure they don't provide the gearing because it's more expensive bein they are hardened pinions) my erevo stated both on the box 50mph oh of box and 65 with gearing change...

My guess on the Titans speed claim still stands... It's gonna hit 50 :)

ENCORE MAN
09-08-2010, 08:48 AM
Who really cares about 50 mph. We all know most of the fellows making these comments about the boat are going to stuff 240 HV escs and monster motors in these ABS hulls and make them do 60 mph. This is what we do and we really enjoy doing it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mickvk
09-08-2010, 08:50 AM
I have a Rustler and it's certainly a joke at the track. It's just weak. The e-revo is serious equipment, but if you get it up to those speeds, the tires are ballooning up like Pamela Anderson's boobs. That's outta control. The car I mean. I know a big honkin 1600kv 6S is going to twist some water - but will the composite prop hold up? Will the ABS hull be real rigid or durable? Will I live with a 2056 servo very long? I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, I'm in line to buy one right now. I just don't think it's going to do 50 well and do 50 reliably. Hopefully it will though. I think I'll like it no matter what.

JMSCARD
09-08-2010, 09:25 AM
I have a Rustler and it's certainly a joke at the track. It's just weak. The e-revo is serious equipment, but if you get it up to those speeds, the tires are ballooning up like Pamela Anderson's boobs. That's outta control. The car I mean. I know a big honkin 1600kv 6S is going to twist some water - but will the composite prop hold up? Will the ABS hull be real rigid or durable? Will I live with a 2056 servo very long? I don't think so. Don't get me wrong, I'm in line to buy one right now. I just don't think it's going to do 50 well and do 50 reliably. Hopefully it will though. I think I'll like it no matter what.

Nothing comes out of the box race ready... my erevo has AKA Truggy wheels/tires, is slammed down, etc., and handles very well.... you are right as far as the rustler goes... its not a race stadium truck.... its for fun, but for that its very durable, and easy to maintain...... all of traxxas models seem to me to be reliable..... in fact the only things that I ever seem to break is driveshafts and I wear down the body mounts from skidding on its "lid"..... lol.... and by golly I LIKE Pamela Andersons boobs so don't try and hurt my feeling with tires ballooning like those!!!

keithbradley
09-08-2010, 07:29 PM
Yes traxxas has made some fast RCs and I agree with JMSCARD on the durability claim. My rustler vxl took A LOT more abuse than my rc10gt or speed t ever did without breaking...Lets hope the 50mph setup from the Titan isn't like the 70 mph setup from the rustler though. If I run my boat for a couple passes and the motor/esc is 200 degrees I wont be happy.

If it went 50mph "well and reliably" like someone stated, it would be the best deal in RC boating...ever.

I will be happy with "50mph capable" and a warranty on the electronics:thumbup1:

mickvk
09-13-2010, 11:01 AM
I was doing some testing with a supervee 27 and was surprised at the performance I got out of it... 42MPH out of it. 1800 kv ammo motor, 4S lipo, grimracer 42 55 2-blade prop.

Previously I was only able to get 38MPH out of a stock UL-1 and 41MPH out of a highly modified Deltaforce 32/Neu1515 which made me think how hard it would be to hit 50. Apparently I've been doing it wrong! That supervee rocks. Maybe the titan will be a barnstormer. I'm still waiting for my order though. Ahhh. Anticipation!

GeoVW72
09-17-2010, 02:18 AM
Any one else think this boat is the biggest piece of vapor ware ever?

Tower says mid october
http://www.towerhobbies.com (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAAUF**&P=ML)

Horizon says mid november
http://www.horizonhobby.com (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=TRA5708)

hope they ship the ones up north with ice picks :roflol:
or that's their plan, cold water should help the spedos from burning up :rofl:

mickvk
09-17-2010, 09:32 AM
Any one else think this boat is the biggest piece of vapor ware ever?

Tower says mid october
http://www.towerhobbies.com (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAAUF**&P=ML)

Horizon says mid november
http://www.horizonhobby.com (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=TRA5708)

hope they ship the ones up north with ice picks :roflol:
or that's their plan, cold water should help the spedos from burning up :rofl:

Yeah, I think there are two aspects:

1.) Marketing. Hate to admit it but sales numbers are better when there's a managed launch and some hype. As bad as this is going for whatever the reason, I'd rather have the info than none at all.

2.) Production sh*t happens. Maybe they caught a problem before it hit the shelves?? Look at the grief Aquacraft got over leaky water jackets. And now proboat's new Miss Geico with a flex shaft recall. A delay is bad but a problem is worse.

Now if Darin Jordan or Chuck Norris worked at traxxas we wouldn't have any of these problems ;)

xxxrems38xxx
09-21-2010, 08:07 AM
hi,
out of the box can directly pass in 6s or should it buy more accessories?

mickvk
09-21-2010, 09:39 AM
hi,
out of the box can directly pass in 6s or should it buy more accessories?

out of the box it has nimh batteries. If you buy 6s lipo batteries, they will work with the model - no other upgrades are needed.

xxxrems38xxx
09-21-2010, 01:39 PM
4s or 5s lipo can be use? and what is the size of stock prop?

mickvk
09-21-2010, 02:17 PM
4s or 5s lipo can be use? and what is the size of stock prop?

Yes. Their website say 42x59.

xxxrems38xxx
09-21-2010, 03:18 PM
is it good with x642?

Shooter
09-22-2010, 09:10 PM
Anyone know if TRAXXAS has released any info regarding ESC current rating?

Snowride
09-23-2010, 08:01 AM
Newbie here. :sorry: Got a Titan on preorder but at this rate I will most likely be using it on the ice. :sarcasm1: What type of lipo do I want to order for reliable long runs? It says 6S capable so does this mean I want to order 2x 5000mah 3s batterries since it needs 2 ? Thanks in advance.

xxxrems38xxx
09-23-2010, 08:10 AM
my Titan is on preorder too and i have ordered 2 lipo 3s 5000mah turnigy in hobbyking! i think there is no problem for the vxl

Snowride
09-23-2010, 08:20 AM
So if I order 2x Turnigy Nano tech 3S 6000mah 25-50c and capable of 5c charge rate I should be good to go? Here is a link to the batteries I would be interested in. Any problems with my choice? http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11939&Product_Name=Turnigy_nano-tech_6000mah_3S_25~50C_Lipo_Pack

Rumdog
09-23-2010, 09:01 AM
If you run 2 6s packs in parallel, you will get much better runtime, and the packs will more efficiently supply high current.

Snowride
09-23-2010, 09:27 AM
If you run 2 6s packs in parallel, you will get much better runtime, and the packs will more efficiently supply high current.

Understood, but this would mean you need to change the stock connector configuration and would also effectively double the weight of the batteries assuming you stick with the same AH rating as the 3s. Another alternative would be to run 4 3s having 2 in parallel and 2 in series which would essentially equate to the same as 2x 6s. Sure looks like there is enough room to do so but then there would not be any room left for sliding them for or aft to adjust weight distribution.

Make-a-Wake
09-23-2010, 09:41 AM
Newbie here. :sorry: Got a Titan on preorder but at this rate I will most likely be using it on the ice. :sarcasm1: What type of lipo do I want to order for reliable long runs? It says 6S capable so does this mean I want to order 2x 5000mah 3s batterries since it needs 2 ? Thanks in advance.


With those long battery trays, i still think two of these in parallel would be sweet!

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10480&Product_Name=Turnigy_5000mAh_6S_25C_Long_Lipo_Pack

Snowride
09-23-2010, 09:56 AM
With those long battery trays, i still think two of these in parallel would be sweet!

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10480&Product_Name=Turnigy_5000mAh_6S_25C_Long_Lipo_Pack

I do too but I want someone else to try first as I am worried about the weight. I am ordering 4 3S 6000mah batteries. 2 for the boat and 2 for backup if I want to run longer. Coud easily make the connections to give me what you have shown above.

Now if they would only get the boat delivery going we may be able to try this out for New Years. :blah:

Make-a-Wake
09-23-2010, 10:23 AM
I do too but I want someone else to try first as I am worried about the weight. I am ordering 4 3S 6000mah batteries. 2 for the boat and 2 for backup if I want to run longer. Coud easily make the connections to give me what you have shown above.

Now if they would only get the boat delivery going we may be able to try this out for New Years. :blah:


To be quite honest, im glad i didnt order one and get sucked into all the misery of release pushbacks etc................ I think its a bad deal on their part.

electric
09-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Never I have I seen so much written, theorized, rumored, argued about, on something that does not yet exist in the market place. It's been interesting. By the way, can you imagine all the money spent on the "roll out" and then the delivery went down in flames? There were tons of ads run, a full article on the boat in a car magazine, video shot... no boat... I have to think someone is not having a good day at TRAXXAS.

ray schrauwen
09-23-2010, 05:59 PM
50 mph on a 36mm 2 pole XL motor.... we'll see....

....and how much do you hear aboout that Thunder Tiger OBL outlaw? Not much... They tried to put out a 40" fiberglass mono powered by a 700 watt "watercooled" outrunner...

The only owner I heard about was on Rc universe and it burnt up a motor first and then an esc + motor after that... plus allot of crazy politics between that person & TT. I think TT threatened to sue her to poor gal.

Snowride
10-01-2010, 07:00 PM
Well Traxxas finally updated their site to November delivery. Good thing I don't need this until May as I have a funny feeling it will be spring before we actually see it. :doh: Wonder if they will include an ice prop or maybe a studded prop :Sinking: Maybe they are shooting for a record in the Guinness book of world records? Longest delayed delivery in the history of the RC world. :bounce: Would be kinda nice if they would at least announce the reason, unforeseen circumstances is getting kinda old.

dana
10-01-2010, 07:13 PM
Well Traxxas finally updated their site to November delivery. Good thing I don't need this until May as I have a funny feeling it will be spring before we actually see it. :doh: Wonder if they will include an ice prop or maybe a studded prop :Sinking: Maybe they are shooting for a record in the Guinness book of world records? Longest delayed delivery in the history of the RC world. :bounce: Would be kinda nice if they would at least announce the reason, unforeseen circumstances is getting kinda old.

maybe they arent rushing it so they dont have the problems PB did with MG lol j/k but really

Brushless55
10-01-2010, 07:18 PM
I do too but I want someone else to try first as I am worried about the weight. I am ordering 4 3S 6000mah batteries. 2 for the boat and 2 for backup if I want to run longer. Coud easily make the connections to give me what you have shown above.

Now if they would only get the boat delivery going we may be able to try this out for New Years. :blah:

4 packs for sure :banana:
two will only give you a single run of 5-6min or so

Snowride
10-01-2010, 07:32 PM
4 packs for sure :banana:
two will only give you a single run of 5-6min or so

Got 4 of the 6000 mah nano tech batts delivered to my door just yesterday. Figuring about 7-8 min run time per set :banana:

forescott
10-01-2010, 07:47 PM
If the c-rating is too low on those 3600mah packs, they wont be putting out enough amps for the xl motor in the titan.

Brushless55
10-01-2010, 07:50 PM
If the c-rating is too low on those 3600mah packs, they wont be putting out enough amps for the xl motor in the titan.

who has 3600's bro :confused2:

mschaffer66
10-01-2010, 09:35 PM
Maybe traxxass should just stick with cars and trucks and leave their sub par boat selection just that.

properchopper
10-01-2010, 09:56 PM
Maybe traxxass should just stick with cars and trucks and leave their sub par boat selection just that.

I don't want to start any nasty rumors, but could the delay be due to Traxxas re-thinking their decision to have G-Freak build this boat for them ? :olleyes:

Shooter
10-01-2010, 10:10 PM
:eek:

mylehigh
10-13-2010, 10:34 PM
Hey guys, Traxxas just emailed me an update about the name change from Titan to Spartan. They're planning on a november release. I'm excited about this boat but I think I'm gonna wait for boaters in southern climes to try it out first.



Dear Traxxas Enthusiast,

Following is updated news about the Traxxas Titan boat. First we want to apologize for the unexpected delays we have experienced during the final testing and production phases of this model. The power output and performance is simply unprecedented for a Ready-to-Race® boat and we have taken many extra measures to make sure it meets the expectations our loyal customers have for Traxxas products.

November Release:
It’s true. We will be releasing the hottest boat of the summer as winter begins. It was not our ideal plan of course, but unfortunately we have exhausted all efforts to compress the timeline any further. As we get closer to the ship date, more precise delivery information will be released. We’re hoping for a mild winter this year!

Name Change:
The Former Traxxas Titan has also undergone a name change to Spartan to avoid a conflict that might have created confusion in the marketplace. The only change from Titan to Spartan is the name—it’s still 6S-LiPo ready, capable of 50+mph, and loaded with all the exciting features you’ve seen and read about. Check our mad Photoshop skills over the coming days as we make the name change to all of our images and the website! Once again, we apologize for the delay and ask for your patience as we finalize the remaining details to get the Spartan on the way to you.

Sincerely, The Traxxas Support Team

mickvk
10-14-2010, 01:05 AM
November, that's GREA... wait a second - did they say what year?

Snowride
10-14-2010, 07:45 AM
I can see why they changed the name to Spartan as "Traxxas Titan" google search came up mostly with their Titan motor which carries the same name. Will obviously get rid of a lot of confusion/mistakes. Let's hope this is legit this time around but my hopes are definitely not high at all. Reminds me of the fairy tale, never cry wolf. :beerchug:

Brushless55
10-14-2010, 12:06 PM
What is this, a sales pitch from Traxxas?

bowzr6
10-16-2010, 02:27 AM
Cool...

Make-a-Wake
10-21-2010, 03:08 PM
The name change is official.....................Spartan

http://www.traxxas.com/products/models/marine/5708spartan

Steven Vaccaro
10-21-2010, 03:18 PM
I'm wondering how they get away with this?

"The World's Fastest Ready-To-Race® Boat!"

What class is it raced in and what races has it won or raced in to be considered "
The World's Fastest Ready-To-Race® Boat!" ?

7500RPM
10-21-2010, 03:23 PM
Cool...

Love the avatar!:thumbup:

Make-a-Wake
10-21-2010, 03:25 PM
I'm wondering how they get away with this?

"The World's Fastest Ready-To-Race® Boat!"

What class is it raced in and what races has it won or raced in to be considered "
The World's Fastest Ready-To-Race® Boat!" ?

probably cuz its faster than this "fastest Electric rc boat"..................

http://www.raidentech.com/syelpowispra.html

mickvk
10-21-2010, 03:27 PM
Well Steve if I think like one of their army of lawyers or marketing dopes, I would say that it's because they aren't comparing it to ready-to-race boats. They're comparing it to trademark stamped Ready-To-Race® boats... So that would make the Spurtin® faster than a Villain I guess. :)

7500RPM
10-21-2010, 03:31 PM
Well out of the Box, it should be faster than a Super Vee on 4S according to the last time I checked what motor they are using, identical to an 8XL....Time will tell....

Snowride
10-21-2010, 03:39 PM
Nothing wrong with the way it's advertised that I can see. RTR basically means it comes with everything included to run it in the box when purchased. This means batteries and radio controller. Just do a google search for RTR boat and see what comes up. I do not think you can buy a boat capable of the advertised 50mph that is RTR and therefor they would be correct.

Check out the updated Spartan site. http://www.traxxas.com/products/models/marine/5708spartan

7500RPM
10-21-2010, 03:44 PM
I stand corrected, 1600KV motor...

mickvk
10-21-2010, 03:45 PM
Well out of the Box, it should be faster than a Super Vee on 4S according to the last time I checked what motor they are using, identical to an 8XL....Time will tell....

Yeah, I just did an article in the current RC Driver magazine that covers that... The supervee 27R on stock Nimh, stock prop does 32. 4S stock prop 36. 4S grim performance prop 40. But at that rate it draws 75A through a 45A ESC... And doesn't support LVC so I don't recommend it. I didn't have a lot of time to tweak it though - that was at a neutral strut angle, one session of testing.

Steven Vaccaro
10-21-2010, 03:52 PM
Well Steve if I think like one of their army of lawyers or marketing dopes, I would say that it's because they aren't comparing it to ready-to-race boats. They're comparing it to trademark stamped Ready-To-Race® boats... So that would make the Spurtin® faster than a Villain I guess. :)

I'm with ya! I forgot the "Ready to Race" thing was theirs.

I'm dying to put it up against a Geico out of the box.

7500RPM
10-21-2010, 03:54 PM
If it is like Traxxas mini E Revo, on 2 battery packs, which I have driven, this boat will be a bullet on 6S, remember "Factory" out of the Box, no other hopups

7500RPM
10-21-2010, 03:58 PM
I'm with ya! I forgot the "Ready to Race" thing was theirs.

I'm dying to put it up against a Geico out of the box.


The Geico needs more POWER out of the box..should have come with an 1800KV motor. This way at least you are still using "P" power 4S, not 5S to get the same speed...it is a large boat!

Steven Vaccaro
10-21-2010, 04:02 PM
The Geico needs more POWER out of the box..should have come with an 1800KV motor. This way at least you are still using "P" power 4S, not 5S to get the same speed...it is a large boat!

Same speed as what? I'm getting over 30mph with a stock prop and 4s and quite happy. Its the same speed Traxxas is advertising their boat will run on 4s.

Darin Jordan
10-21-2010, 04:04 PM
The Geico needs more POWER out of the box..should have come with an 1800KV motor. This way at least you are still using "P" power 4S, not 5S to get the same speed...it is a large boat!

I find it amusing how many of you think that KV means "more power"...

If your Geico isn't fast enough, you aren't prop'ing it correctly.

That being said... We also wanted the Geico to SURVIVE the average "RTR" boater... Guys that want to run them for 5+ minutes and run the cells to cutoff, etc.

It's NOT being marketed as a "Race Boat"... it's a FANTASTIC RTR, that CAN be raced... I assure you, had I wanted it to be marketed as a "Race Boat", it would have been one of the fastest. I think I know how to make that happen by now.

I'll believe all this Traxxas Hype when I see it. It's a tuperware boat, that should be capable of decent speeds, but we'll see just how "race ready" it really is... that involves a hell of a lot more than a quick GPS pass at 50mph...