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TwzteD
05-26-2010, 06:42 PM
recently bought the "1075mm" or 41'' delta copy from hk, http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11892&Product_Name=Osprey_Brushless_V-Hull_R/C_Boat_%281075mm%29_Plug-n-Drive

was wondering what would be the best setup for the boat, im gonna reinforce it like many do with the copy's, but what im looking for is a quick and reliable setup, the esc im assuming needs to go and possibly even the motor what would some recommendations be? id like high 40s low 50s if possible, like what feigao motors and esc would be a good combo, trying not to spend too much more considering i spend 425 for it already and ill still be buying battery's, anyone have any pics of a real delta 41 setup or any good ideas, thanks in advance.

Brushless55
05-26-2010, 07:40 PM
The motor that boat comes with is very much like a Castle/Neu 1515
you should see 40's on 4s

TwzteD
05-27-2010, 12:16 AM
few ppl over at hk are thinking the motors is this http://model-hobbies.com/4074-Leopard-Motor-china/4074-Leopard-Motor-1500-Series-4-POLE-Motor-for-1-8-Cars-LB-4074-120/ sounds like a pretty decent motor then.

Make-a-Wake
05-27-2010, 12:23 AM
I'd just leave the stock motor in there and try it on 4s........and 5s...........new esc of course.

Jeff Wohlt
05-27-2010, 12:26 AM
That does come with the leopard motor. Can run on 5S but I would try 6s :)

TwzteD
05-27-2010, 12:56 AM
ok so about a new esc, is the Turnigy Marine 180A good enough or would you recommend something else ?

Brushless55
05-27-2010, 01:00 AM
the stock esc could work well?
but the Turningy 180 would be very nice in this hull

TwzteD
05-27-2010, 08:27 AM
Do you think this motor is capable of 6s?

Brushless55
05-27-2010, 08:34 AM
It is, but I would not risk it until you try 5s in this big hull!

TwzteD
05-27-2010, 08:05 PM
anybody else order one of these or have one? or the real one

Brushless55
05-27-2010, 10:11 PM
you could be the first

j.m.
05-27-2010, 11:56 PM
I wish the hardware was available separate, it looks really nice...

TwzteD
06-04-2010, 06:00 PM
got it yesterday nice boat awesome hardware but leaks like crazy needs to be sealed! decals peal off easily it does indeed come with the lepord motor and a seaking 120 esc. ill get pics up asap

TwzteD
06-04-2010, 06:19 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/sh311shock/30716_397464202529_542577529_416415.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/sh311shock/30716_397464347529_542577529_416415.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/sh311shock/30716_397464397529_542577529_416415.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/sh311shock/30716_397464462529_542577529_416415.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/sh311shock/30716_397464547529_542577529_416416.jpg

sailr
06-04-2010, 06:42 PM
I, for one, am very interested in how that Leopard motor performs and holds up. They make a lot of claims for it. It will be nice to know if they are true! I think Steven here at OSE is going to be carrying them.

TwzteD
06-04-2010, 06:54 PM
im waiting myself to see what people run them on, i still need to buy new batts and i dont wanna have to but another set, i hope they can run on 5s or even 6s, but i doubt 6s since its prob too high of rpms to runs safely, i m prob going to but 2x 5kmah 5s for 10kmah total the hull is lighter than i thought but im gonna reinforce it also. just ordered a traxxas waterproof servo also and going to try and get rid of this seaking 120amp esc and get a bigger one for reliability sake, doubt it could even handle 5s. just want a decent reliable setup with decent runtime. hardware is awesome for the price you cant beat it.

TwzteD
06-04-2010, 07:41 PM
the motor is the leopord hobbies 2200kv motor for refrence its not 1620 its pretty much the castle 2200kv motor

Brushless55
06-04-2010, 10:06 PM
They do make a 1620kv version of this motor I think?
I think this looks like a great RTR

Rumdog
06-04-2010, 10:10 PM
Even if the motor is equivelant to the castle, it's going to be too small for that boat. A 33" mono is about max size for it. This is more of a 6s boat at least, maybe more.

Brushless55
06-04-2010, 10:13 PM
Even if the motor is equivelant to the castle, it's going to be too small for that boat. A 33" mono is about max size for it. This is more of a 6s boat at least, maybe more.

This will be interesting for sure.. :thumbup1:

mappo
06-05-2010, 02:35 AM
They do make a 1620kv version of this motor I think?
I think this looks like a great RTR


4074/2T
120A 22.2v 2664 watts 2000kv. I don't think HK knows what motor they are selling in the Osprey..

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 09:59 AM
so what would be a good alternative motor for this boat then>?

Brushless55
06-05-2010, 10:16 AM
so what would be a good alternative motor for this boat then>?

Pull that water jacket back and lets see what kv motor you have first.. :beerchug:

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 10:26 AM
i did its the 2200kv motor wont be any good at all in this hull?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y74/sh311shock/30716_397626097529_542577529_416849.jpg

Brushless55
06-05-2010, 10:32 AM
4s could be the max, but maybe 5s with the right prop? :confused1:

sailr
06-05-2010, 10:33 AM
Everybody wants to pay $300-400 for a big boat that runs 60+mph, lasts forever, never gets hot, has a heavy duty hull and fabulous hardware, etc etc etc

Yeah, and I want a brand new Mercedes for $1500! Jeeeez!

Brushless55
06-05-2010, 10:34 AM
Everybody wants to pay $300-400 for a big boat that runs 60+mph, lasts forever, never gets hot, has a heavy duty hull and fabulous hardware, etc etc etc

Yeah, and I want a brand new Mercedes for $1500! Jeeeez!

C63 :beerchug:

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 10:40 AM
so if this motor is not suitable for this hull what should i be looking at?

FighterCat57
06-05-2010, 10:42 AM
Everybody wants to pay $300-400 for a big boat that runs 60+mph, lasts forever, never gets hot, has a heavy duty hull and fabulous hardware, etc etc etc

Yeah, and I want a brand new Mercedes for $1500! Jeeeez!

Why isn't that attainable?
I'm new to FE boats and that is EXACTLY what my expectations were coming in.

Imagine my surprise when I learned what's out there now.

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 10:44 AM
Everybody wants to pay $300-400 for a big boat that runs 60+mph, lasts forever, never gets hot, has a heavy duty hull and fabulous hardware, etc etc etc

Yeah, and I want a brand new Mercedes for $1500! Jeeeez!


whats the arrogance for? i did have intention on putting more money into the boat but i needed a place to start and figured this was a good place.

bustitup
06-05-2010, 10:55 AM
twsted

what are the actual dimensions of that boat NOT including the hardware

boat looks awesome....looks like a df sniper

thank you

sailr
06-05-2010, 10:55 AM
No arrogance directed at you....just a general comment.

You need at a minimum, a NEU 1527/1Y and Castle 240 on 6S to make this thing go anywhere. Not sure that's gonna get you great speed. The cost for that upgrade is in the $700 range not including batteries. Why spend the money on the boat to throw away the motor and esc that's in it? It would be cheaper to start with new hull and hardware of known quality. That is all I'm trying to say!

Brushless55
06-05-2010, 11:19 AM
so if this motor is not suitable for this hull what should i be looking at?

No one knows how well these motors will work (Leopard) :huh:
so start on 4s and see how it goes. and check temps on the first 30sec and every min after that just to make sure things are not getting very hot

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 11:52 AM
twsted

what are the actual dimensions of that boat NOT including the hardware

boat looks awesome....looks like a df sniper

thank you


thats exactly what the boat is its the df sniper 41 knockoff my boat is 41 inches long i made a typo upon creating this thread sorry.
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=df-delta41


the hull is 230 here with nothing i paid 425 shipped for mine the motors selling for about 90 and the esc is about 75$ that means if i sold the esc and motor i payed 260 for the boat and all the hardware wich is still way cheaper than buying it all and putting it together... even if i had to rid the esc and motor its still a awesome deal for 260$ for this hull all the hardware and motor mounts.

BakedMopar
06-05-2010, 12:03 PM
Just run it and see how it goes! On paper it's not the perfect setup. But we don't race on paper. Try it with 4s like brushless said and check you temps often. I'm also going to have to agree with Jim also. To get that kind of speed reliably you will be spending a good amount on electronics.

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 12:09 PM
im going to wait and see what other people do this way i can sell the motor and esc as unused and brand new if its not good with this boat, i don't mind spending the money for a good setup like i said i just wanted a good place to start and i figured this was it. im going to be buying new batterys anyways so i need to see what other ppl use so i dont but too big or small.

forescott
06-05-2010, 01:11 PM
I want to see it run with that motor on 4s!

Brushless55
06-05-2010, 03:34 PM
im going to wait and see what other people do this way i can sell the motor and esc as unused and brand new if its not good with this boat, i don't mind spending the money for a good setup like i said i just wanted a good place to start and i figured this was it. im going to be buying new batterys anyways so i need to see what other ppl use so i dont but too big or small.

You could be just throwing cash away.. this motor could get the job done for you
my guess is low to mid 40's on 4s

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 04:11 PM
do you think this esc is capable of that? or should i sell that and get the turnigy 180?

TwzteD
06-05-2010, 04:24 PM
heres the leopard hobby motor running on 4s in another boat 75 mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCNs3dX2qng

Brushless55
06-05-2010, 07:40 PM
heres the leopard hobby motor running on 4s in another boat 75 mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCNs3dX2qng

Interesting that there is two versions of this video on youtube :confused1:

Rumdog
06-06-2010, 12:27 AM
I've seen that vid. He clearly states 50mph. That is in a 30"ish hydro. Not a 40 plush inh mono. Not sure why the title says that speed. It isn't true. What prop comes on the boat? I'm quite sure it must be small or it will smoke that esc instantly. Being a small prop, and a high kv motor it will not push that hull very well. Mid 40's ain't gonna happen reliably. I'd sell the gear and upgrade.

TwzteD
06-06-2010, 02:20 AM
only markings on the prop are 440, I already planed on buying the turnigy 180a esc and sell the stocker but i didnt think id have to sell the motor, id like to find a 40 inch dia motor so i can still use all the hardware like the motor mount and what not. is a feigao 580 good, im assuming i need an even bigger motor. if i gotta go that route what about an outrunner?

sailr
06-06-2010, 09:45 AM
I had a Feigao 580 10L that lasted two runs before destructing and taking out my esc. At a minimum I would install a NEU 1527/1Y. I have learned the hard way now that trying to save $$$ on motors has just cost me more in the long run. Buy a NEU and be done with it.

TwzteD
06-06-2010, 09:53 AM
Neu Castle 1520 1y 1600KV is this too small its dia is still 40mm so ican use the original mount and whatnot, or do i really really need a 1527

v-spec
06-06-2010, 06:37 PM
If you want to sell that Motor and ESC i would love to buy it if it's not to pricey. I should be getting my brushless elam from ebay tomorrow and I need something for it.

TwzteD
06-06-2010, 06:55 PM
well`the motors are going for 90+ and esc are 75+ both need to be imported so id sell them both for 165 shipped, but i need a few days to think about it and see

v-spec
06-06-2010, 07:17 PM
well`the motors are going for 90+ and esc are 75+ both need to be imported so id sell them both for 165 shipped, but i need a few days to think about it and see

Let me know, im intrested.

RIPFENCE
06-06-2010, 07:27 PM
definately sell the gear and then upgrade or use the gear in a smaller hull..that hull and hardware would be a good base to build on..thats the problem with these type of rtr they are not really set up for great performance..you can only expect so much i guess..it seems to be a decent value otherwise..i am pondering about getting one and dumping a big neu into it

Brushless55
06-06-2010, 07:57 PM
well`the motors are going for 90+ and esc are 75+ both need to be imported so id sell them both for 165 shipped, but i need a few days to think about it and see

The motors are going for $85 to $88 shipped

TwzteD
06-06-2010, 09:50 PM
If I buy the neu 1527 what kinda voltage am I lookin at? Would a turnigy 180a eac it am u forced to use a hydra 240

Brushless55
06-06-2010, 10:01 PM
depends on the wind.. you could go 4s or 6s and some have run the T180 esc with great results on the 1527

Rumdog
06-06-2010, 10:19 PM
A 1527 1.5d on 5s2p with a 240lv would make it rip!

TwzteD
06-07-2010, 01:41 AM
ok thanks guys guess ill have to start looking for a used motor with a 5 mm shaft what kind of 1527 would be best if i did get the t180 esc?

TwzteD
06-10-2010, 06:46 PM
will the turnigy Marine 180A be able to handle a nue 1527 1y? can some one please lemme know

FighterCat57
06-11-2010, 02:39 PM
will the turnigy Marine 180A be able to handle a nue 1527 1y? can some one please lemme know

My answer would be no. I have a T180 running a CC 1515 and it gets hot.

I have a 1527 that I'm running with a Hydra 240. Pretty cool setup. Jeff makes special 8mm couplers and wire drives that work great with it.

bustitup
06-11-2010, 02:44 PM
My answer is yes it will...watch your temp

FighterCat57
06-11-2010, 02:51 PM
My answer is yes it will...watch your temp

I've not tried it, so this might be good. :smile:

BakedMopar
06-11-2010, 02:52 PM
If you go 580 I have one. ESC (180a) temps with this motor on 4s2p and m447 under 120. PM me for details if interested.

bustitup
06-11-2010, 02:58 PM
I've not tried it, so this might be good. :smile:

Just to clarify
I have run 180t on 6s2p with scorpion outrunner
WATCH temp

I trust the 180t more than Any Hydra
.......jmho

FighterCat57
06-11-2010, 03:04 PM
Just to clarify
I have run 180t on 6s2p with scorpion outrunner
WATCH temp

I trust the 180t more than Any Hydra
.......jmho

:rockon2:

sailr
06-11-2010, 03:22 PM
I have one in a Sprintcat 40 with a 1527/1Y. Haven't run it yet but the guys around here say it should be OK.

I had a 580 in the boat first. The motor puked after about 5 minutes and took the esc with it. Do NOT prop the 580 on 6S over about a 445!

TwzteD
06-11-2010, 06:59 PM
whatwould be a safe voltage to run it on if i did decide to try it? im assuming a 1y over a 1.5d? the hard part is trying to find a used one with a 5mm shaft :(

FighterCat57
06-11-2010, 07:12 PM
whatwould be a safe voltage to run it on if i did decide to try it? im assuming a 1y over a 1.5d? the hard part is trying to find a used one with a 5mm shaft :(

There's a guy in Australia on ebay that sells an 8mm to 4mm hex adapter. Jeff can make one too.

:cool:

I just bought a 1527/1.5d that was for sale here a couple weeks ago. They are out there. Might try a WTB thread?

HTH

TwzteD
06-12-2010, 01:24 PM
so what kinda voltage>? 4 5 0r 6s? ill try a wtb thread but if anyone sees one forsale lemme know

6S HYDRO
06-12-2010, 05:13 PM
we all would just like to see this thing run! try it out and post a vid.. i doubt anyone else will be buying one until theyve seen yours run.

FighterCat57
06-12-2010, 06:49 PM
I would still like to see what a stock one will do.

Brushless55
06-12-2010, 08:02 PM
I would still like to see what a stock one will do.

:iagree:
strange that no one has run this boat yet......... :confused2:

BakedMopar
06-12-2010, 08:40 PM
:iagree:

Its funny that most thinks they need a Neu to run a boat. Granted they are great motors ohers will be perfectly fine in a sport boat.

JMSCARD
06-12-2010, 11:04 PM
Yeh just run the boat..... I wanna see what the leopard can do.... with the small 40mm prop it will be fine on 4s with the 120amp esc..... just run her!!! VIDEO PLEASE:)

ray schrauwen
06-13-2010, 03:18 AM
Why not the Turnigy T600 4030 outrunner?

You could use the 880 KV on 8S1P 40C cells and use a Monster 2000 ESC

$220 upgrade depending on your level.

Bet you can get a good 50 out of her... ;)


Heck, I'm buying the empty hull to try one in....

TwzteD
06-13-2010, 10:32 AM
only reason i havent tried it yes is because i dont have any batteries i got rid of all my rc stuff a little wile ago and now im getting back into it, only thing i have left is my charger and radios, i dont wanna buy a 2 4s packs and then it be slow and have to sell them to get 5s packs if u know what i mean, hobby city sold like 15 of these im honestly surprised myself why no one put a video up.

TwzteD
06-13-2010, 10:46 AM
oh and the stock prop is 44 i guess im just gonna sell the esc and the the t180 and see how it runs with this motor if its too slow ill get a better motor.4s or 5s?

FighterCat57
06-13-2010, 11:54 AM
oh and the stock prop is 44 i guess im just gonna sell the esc and the the t180 and see how it runs with this motor if its too slow ill get a better motor.4s or 5s?

4s at 2000Kv = 29600
5s at 2000Kv = 37000

5s might be a good way to go. Using the stock prop or possibly smaller to accommodate the higher RPM.

One of the guys on here with more experience should be able to say which is better for that hull/motor and recommend a good starting prop. I'm assuming that's a type-o above and you're planning on using the T180a ESC with the stock 2000kv Leopard motor.

I'm guessing that on 5s with that combo that 50's are attainable. Just guessing as I'm still learning about FE.

TwzteD
06-13-2010, 08:50 PM
Yea I plan on buying the turnigy 180 esc but the motor I have is 2200 not 2000 so 5s is prob too much for that motor

FighterCat57
06-13-2010, 08:54 PM
Yeah, that would be much better on 4s; 32560 RPM

6S HYDRO
06-13-2010, 09:04 PM
so more reason to run the boat as is. or just get the 180

TwzteD
06-13-2010, 10:06 PM
Keeping stock motor gettin t 180 esc and 4s packs

6S HYDRO
06-13-2010, 10:11 PM
id try the stock esc, you dont have 2 x 2s packs you could run in series on it?

TwzteD
06-14-2010, 12:26 AM
unfortunatly i got rid of everything but my rx tx and charger and getting back into it with boats

mappo
06-16-2010, 03:42 PM
anybody else order one of these or have one? or the real one

Does anyone have this boat and is it different than the Osprey?

https://www.thundertiger4u.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7557

JMSCARD
06-16-2010, 03:51 PM
Does anyone have this boat and is it different than the Osprey?

https://www.thundertiger4u.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7557

I have both a 44" DF Sniper (real)... and a 39" delta force copy.... just getting the sniper set up with a little screamer motor... the 39" copy I ran with a lehner... great boats!

ray schrauwen
06-16-2010, 05:24 PM
Does anyone have this boat and is it different than the Osprey?

https://www.thundertiger4u.com/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7557

I do not own one of the Osprey YET... but, I may soon. I have educated myself on these boats fairly well.

The Thunder Tiger is a nice looking boat but, IMO has such a small underpowered motor you will either smoke things or be somewhat dissapointed at its performance.

Check out RC groups thread on the TT OBL, it ain't pretty!!:thumbsdown:

The TT looks just like a Delta Force Copy hull. 39"

TwzteD
06-16-2010, 06:59 PM
ray are u the guy who put a turnigy outrunner in a 40 sprintcat?

Rumdog
06-16-2010, 07:00 PM
that was crabstick

ray schrauwen
06-16-2010, 07:03 PM
Yep, I'm slow on my mono outrunner build.

FighterCat57
06-16-2010, 07:06 PM
Wonder if a Lehner 2240/7 would be good in this hull.

TwzteD
06-16-2010, 07:18 PM
i was thinking of possibly putting this bad boy in it on 6s with the t18s turnigy esc 24k rpm http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=11102&Product_Name=Turnigy_T600_Brushless_Outrunner_for_ 600_Heli_%281100kv%29

TwzteD
06-16-2010, 07:20 PM
or even http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=9258&Product_Name=Turnigy_Typhoon_500H_Heli_Motor_1800k v_%28500_Class%29 to spinn a smaller prop prob better than stock motor?

Rumdog
06-16-2010, 08:09 PM
What are YOUR expectations for your hull? When you run it, what kind of speed will make you happy. Remember, it is a BIG mono. To reliably go fast, with decent runtimes, it's going to cost a bit of money. Now, if your aim is more in the 40mph range, you have a few more options.

TwzteD
06-16-2010, 08:18 PM
yea nothing too ridiculous 40 45 or anything faster than stock with that motor id be happy

TwzteD
06-17-2010, 06:42 PM
ok someone posted a video and quite honestly its pretty pathetic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHSVY-X6LKE&feature=related its only on 3s but i thinks the motor hasta go

FighterCat57
06-17-2010, 06:52 PM
That really didn't look setup right and certainly didn't sound calibrated (not high enough RPM) IMO

I wouldn't judge the boat on that vid.

If it wasn't so expensive, I'd pick one up and set up a vid for ya. About $100 less and I'd do it.

BakedMopar
06-17-2010, 07:05 PM
You seam that you already made up your mind about the stock motor and esc from your first few posts. That's a 4s motor. Running 3s with a tiny prop all it will do is cavatate which is what it's doing in that video.

TwzteD
06-17-2010, 07:05 PM
granted its only running on 3s but i still think a tourkey outrunner would be better off or a big nue wick i kinda dont wanna spend the money on but if i hafta i just might! im still gonna wait to see what other ppl doo i might just keep it if it turns out to be ok but im always diffrent with things that i have hehe sorry if i sound like i know it all cause im not trying to be that way i know verylittle about boats so hope im not coming off that way i just wanna have something diffrent

FighterCat57
06-17-2010, 07:41 PM
Well... turns out I still had some paypal $$ left from some other stuff. So...I have one on the way now. I'll be happy to do a full workup on it here. Perhaps even drop my new Lehner in it after I squeeze the stock system a bit. Might do well.

I've been toying with buying it since I saw it and don't have any V Hulls. Was going to get the Traxxas Titan... guess I'll wait on that.

TwzteD
06-17-2010, 07:43 PM
im dying to throw a 1527 in it but i dont wanna hafta but a hydra 240 and nobody gave me a clear answer if the turnigy 180 will hold up with the 1527 lehners are too expensive for me its a nice boat tho

Brushless55
06-17-2010, 09:18 PM
You seam that you already made up your mind about the stock motor and esc from your first few posts. That's a 4s motor. Running 3s with a tiny prop all it will do is cavatate which is what it's doing in that video.

:iagree:
plus this youtube user has two other vids of this boat that looks better :thumbup1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcJXiO2BiSc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL_-SL3yXms

ray schrauwen
06-17-2010, 09:57 PM
Seen them too. Needs to fix the glitching because its diving me nuts. That and those continous circles Jeepers creepers....

It would come to life on 4S but, if you're not going to try it thats that...

A 1521 around 1000KV is more than enough in that boat on 6S. ESC, well, try what you like, Lord hates a coward, lol... I ribbin' ya !

ray schrauwen
06-17-2010, 10:04 PM
The hull is about $150- 190 delivered to my door, the esc and motor can be aquired for about $120, then the hardware. So you were sorta saying $340 was too expensive? Not really...

I'm getting the hull from HOTR & I have a Turnigy Monster 2000 watercooled & coated and I'm going to run a 880KV Turnigy Outrunner on 8S1P. Should be fun running big azz props...

I've seen a vid or two of a 36" cat with the Turnigy motor in it on 6S & 8S, nice...

ray schrauwen
06-17-2010, 10:23 PM
Here's a Sprint Cat 40 with the above mentioned motor, the 1100Kv version on 6S1P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOCyoMwdtlE&playnext_from=TL&videos=UUBPi2-P_9c

Its one of the first runs in nasty chop.

ray schrauwen
06-17-2010, 10:26 PM
Motor mount... It's nice but, the hole spacing was too much and I had to drill it out to mount the 4030.

http://www.fuyuanrc.com/en/detail.asp?id=15732


I bought it from Etamiya.comm

Sweet and for the price i don't care if i had to drill her out.

TwzteD
06-18-2010, 07:32 AM
what would be faster the 1521 or the 4030 outrunner on 6s?

ray schrauwen
06-18-2010, 08:56 AM
No idea.... yet....

FighterCat57
06-18-2010, 09:21 AM
what would be faster the 1521 or the 4030 outrunner on 6s?

I would just wait a bit, till some real usable info on the stock motor setup is available and can make a reasonably informed decision on staying with it or ditching it. JMHO

Ray is right, did some quick math and the price is about decent. The stock ESC and motor if replaced, would make one hell of a rescue boat motor setup. :huh:

TwzteD
06-18-2010, 10:09 AM
Ray are you gwtting one also?

ray schrauwen
06-18-2010, 10:17 AM
Hull only.

I can't afford to buy a RTR and then gut it partly. I speak directly to Johnny Cheung of HOTR via email. I have been a good customer of his for some time and I try to haggle a bit with him. He is nice, his website is almost done.

Looks like he would like to get away from evil ebay.

Just waiting for him to contact me back.

TwzteD
06-18-2010, 06:55 PM
so ray if u get the boat u gonna try the outrunner?

ray schrauwen
06-18-2010, 07:28 PM
so ray if u get the boat u gonna try the outrunner?

I've got the outrunner(s) 880Kv, 1100Kv in 4030. I have the esc.

So ya, its going to happen, I'm kinda waiting on a guy to P/U his feathermerchant 42A PS and pay me $65 for it. Then I'll order the hull.

I'll get the hardware as soon as funds are available. Hopefully get it done in July sometime. Best I can do... LYK..:buttrock:

FighterCat57
06-18-2010, 08:36 PM
Motor mount... It's nice but, the hole spacing was too much and I had to drill it out to mount the 4030.

http://www.fuyuanrc.com/en/detail.asp?id=15732


I bought it from Etamiya.comm

Sweet and for the price i don't care if i had to drill her out.

Ray, what are the hole measurements? I'm thinking this might work out for the Lehner motor.

TwzteD
06-18-2010, 10:01 PM
I wanna know how the 1100 works and if a t180 marine esc will hold up on 6s

FighterCat57
06-19-2010, 12:20 PM
Saw you picked up the 1524, nice job!

I used the 40mm motor mount that was made for the 4075 leopard to mount my 1527. I'm pretty sure the 1527 is a 40mm motor as well. Just added rear support and moved the rear support back on the motor accordingly. Details are in my Genesis build thread.

sailr
06-19-2010, 12:50 PM
All NEU 15 series are 38.862mm in diameter

FighterCat57
06-19-2010, 01:03 PM
All NEU 15 series are 38.862mm in diameter

No worries the 40mm mount suits it just fine. Just not over the fins on a Castle.
Here's my 40mm mount with a 1527 as referred to above.

Hope this helps. :thumbup1:

sailr
06-19-2010, 01:13 PM
Good setup!

TwzteD
06-19-2010, 01:57 PM
Yea the 1524 has a built in fan too 1380 kv should run nice ;) on 5 or 6s hopefully I can use a t180 esc the motor on 5s only pulled 120 amps in a 40" hull wich is good news now where to buy cheap carbon fiber for reinforcing.

ray schrauwen
06-19-2010, 02:16 PM
Shweet motor dude!@!!!

ray schrauwen
06-19-2010, 02:18 PM
Ray, what are the hole measurements? I'm thinking this might work out for the Lehner motor.

I believe they are 30mm on center. I had to drill in tighter for 25mm spacing.

sailr
06-19-2010, 02:47 PM
The words CHEAP and CARBON FIBER don't go together ;-0

TwzteD
06-19-2010, 02:51 PM
cheapest price :)

TwzteD
06-19-2010, 03:11 PM
just orderd the t180 esc brand new 83$ shipped hopefully it works!

ray schrauwen
06-19-2010, 03:52 PM
Just take out the red wire for bec, plug and play.

Works for me and mine is Ver.1

TwzteD
06-19-2010, 04:20 PM
u dont run the stock bec?

ray schrauwen
06-19-2010, 04:36 PM
No, never. I prefer a Ubec or a set of 4-5 cell Nimh.

Everyone has a prefference I guess. I would rather have all my esc's be Opto if i could have it. Just more reliable in general.

TwzteD
06-19-2010, 04:38 PM
i understand so what do you use with this esc insted?

ray schrauwen
06-19-2010, 04:38 PM
To me there is no point in saving weight. Less components is nice but, at what expense?

If you are running 6S I think your esc is busy enough. Bec just adds to its work load. I know I will get people that disagree... thats normal.

Jeff Wohlt
06-19-2010, 10:53 PM
I'm with Ray....From day one I never ran bec on brushed rigs and never had issues or glitching. I tried it on one cheaper ESC and felt is was all it could do so I snipped the red one and went with a pack. CLEAN POWER is what I want.

FighterCat57
06-21-2010, 02:06 PM
I'm with Ray....From day one I never ran bec on brushed rigs and never had issues or glitching. I tried it on one cheaper ESC and felt is was all it could do so I snipped the red one and went with a pack. CLEAN POWER is what I want.

Sounds odd, but the last time I used a receiver pack was on an RC10 before I saved up enough to buy a Novak. Believe that was 198<cough>

I've only experienced one issue with twitching while using the BEC and that was with an FM radio. Switched it to 2.4Ghz and worked smooth, so never tried a separate BEC power source.

I don't run any setup to the max or even close to hard duty, but have found it interesting that so many people have had issues with BEC's. :confused2:

I'm switching most of my setups to use a separate BEC, but mostly because of 3s limitations on some ESC's.

No preference or influence... just sharing my experiences. Carry on.

PS the Osprey is leaving HK this week. :banana:

TwzteD
06-24-2010, 06:29 PM
new power plant arrived today! esc hopefully soon! thanks jesse j.

ray schrauwen
06-24-2010, 06:39 PM
Ouch! Thats gunna hurt real bad...

Nice motor.

I was going to buy an Osprey hull only but, Promise Hobby came out with a decently priced Carbon/Kevlar 39" DF copy. Nice and light!

I should have it in a few weeks, it takes them abot 10 days to get one made start to finish before they ship out.

TwzteD
06-24-2010, 07:09 PM
Gonna Hurt WHAT!!! lol

ray schrauwen
06-24-2010, 07:10 PM
The water...lol...

TwzteD
06-24-2010, 07:42 PM
im gonna attempt to gut the stuff from the inside then lay carbon and put stringers and side supports, i bought balsa wood, is that good? i plan on using westsystem to soak the balsa wich is very porous trying to keep it as light as possible

crabstick
06-24-2010, 07:50 PM
I'm with Ray....From day one I never ran bec on brushed rigs and never had issues or glitching. I tried it on one cheaper ESC and felt is was all it could do so I snipped the red one and went with a pack. CLEAN POWER is what I want.


amen!!

ray schrauwen
06-24-2010, 07:51 PM
I would use 1/4" ply, its pretty much standard for stringers. Balsa is for airplanes if that...

Side support? Is it that flimbsy?

TwzteD
06-24-2010, 08:20 PM
No not flimsy at all just rather be safe than sorry!

Brushless55
06-24-2010, 08:54 PM
Ouch! Thats gunna hurt real bad...

Nice motor.

I was going to buy an Osprey hull only but, Promise Hobby came out with a decently priced Carbon/Kevlar 39" DF copy. Nice and light!

I should have it in a few weeks, it takes them abot 10 days to get one made start to finish before they ship out.

Nice!
how much?

electric
06-26-2010, 06:27 PM
Just scanned through this thread. Did anyone ever take out the boat as purchased from Hobby City and run it? How did it do? Maybe I missed something while going through the thread quickly..

TwzteD
06-27-2010, 10:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcJXi...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL_-SL3yXms

ray schrauwen
06-27-2010, 12:00 PM
That is on 3S i think and radio is glitching...