Rico Racing 31" FE Mono

[BakedMopar]

Here is my newest addition to my fleet. Wanted to have a great offshore mono. All I can say is the quality of the Rico hull is outstanding! Edges are sharp and virtually no hooks or rockers. I had Richie lay carbon on the floor for me also. I am by far very pleased with the hull.

[BakedMopar]

The boat will be powered by a Feigao 580l with 4s. Hardware is speedmaster with accu-tech trim tabs.

[tiqueman]

Looks like a cool build there Baked. Good lookin mono. :thumbup:

[Rumdog]

YEah baby! You're gonna love that hull! Nice color choice too! I hope you have good luck with that 580.

[Brushless55]

I dig the paint! :rockon2:

[BakedMopar]

YEah baby! You're gonna love that hull! Nice color choice too! I hope you have good luck with that 580.

Yes the hull is beautifull and looks very promising. This one is replacing another mono that I could never seem to get running right.

How did your Rico perform with the 580l? Did you have any problems with it?

[Rumdog]

I only ran it once in the Rico. It was plenty fast, but with my motor mount I couldn't fit the cooling jacket, so the run was really short. It was a replacement motor for one that de-magged. Seems there have been a few of these de-magging for no apparent reason. I hope yours hold up well though.

[BakedMopar]

Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully she goes okay. I started mounting the hardware today. Waiting on a couple more items. Hope she runs as good as it looks.

[OshkoshMono]

Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully she goes okay. I started mounting the hardware today. Waiting on a couple more items. Hope she runs as good as it looks.

Any more pics yet? I was going back and forth between this hull and the titan 33 (or titan 40 which ever you go by). I'd love to see more rear end and internal pics if you get a chance.:thumbup1:

[BakedMopar]

The build is at a complete stand still. Still waiting on my motor mount!:ThumbsDown01::frusty:

[Jesse J]

I'd love to see more rear end

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Rumdog]

Any more pics yet? I was going back and forth between this hull and the titan 33 (or titan 40 which ever you go by). I'd love to see more rear end and internal pics if you get a chance.:thumbup1:

Get the Rico. It can handle way more speed!

[OshkoshMono]

Get the Rico. It can handle way more speed!
:cursing: Shat! I was going to, but I tried calling and couldn't get ahold of anyone, and being a really patient person....I pulled the trigger on the titan.... Oh well, if I don't like it, I'll pull the internals and.....:sold:

[Doug Smock]

:cursing: Shat! I was going to, but I tried calling and couldn't get ahold of anyone, and being a really patient person....I pulled the trigger on the titan.... Oh well, if I don't like it, I'll pull the internals and.....:sold:

The Titan 40 is a great hull, just has a ton more lift than the Rico.

Great looking build Mr. Mopar! Your going to want to get rid of some of that rudder though. The Speedmaster 20 hydro rudder is plenty for this hull IME.

Doug :beerchug:

[BakedMopar]

The rudder is now trimed to be 2 5/8" below the keel. Thats what was recomended. Does that sound about right? I'm going to put 4" rails in her. Just waiting on the motor mount to see where everything will go.

OshKoshMono. Richie is a little hard to get a hold of. Send him an E-mail. It may take a few days but he always got back to me. I beleive he does this as a side business. All hulls are usually built to order from what I understand. It took a while but definately worth it!

[bigpapa]

george u got a pm

[OshkoshMono]

The Titan 40 is a great hull, just has a ton more lift than the Rico.

Great looking build Mr. Mopar! Your going to want to get rid of some of that rudder though. The Speedmaster 20 hydro rudder is plenty for this hull IME.

Doug :beerchug:

Ya, I think it will be a good hull for me. I'm not to worried about top speed, my main goal is as much stability as possible. Rough water around here mostly. I do want it to jump out of the water when I hit the gas though. :w00t:
I hope your Rico build goes well!

[Doug Smock]

Ya, I think it will be a good hull for me. I'm not to worried about top speed, my main goal is as much stability as possible. Rough water around here mostly. I do want it to jump out of the water when I hit the gas though. :w00t:
I hope your Rico build goes well!

You'll be happy. Here are a few pics of my son's Titan 40 (blue one) and my old 29.
http://www.atlantamodelboaters.com/fepics.html

[BakedMopar]

Hey doug whats your take on moving the rudders leading edge with the drive dog. I've seen them ran both ways and both seems to run okay.

Also is the 2 1/2" - 2 5/8" below the keel sound about rigth for the rudder lenth?

[BakedMopar]

Well the motor mount came in so i started cutting out my rails and deck. Got everything broke down and will start to seal with epoxy.

[BakedMopar]

Well I got her all finished up and I took her out today. First runs were okay. I need to get a bigger prop. Motor and esc didn't even break 100* speeds were down also. Was running it with a m445. Didn't get to video hopefully next outing.


Here are some finished pics.

[knpc]

Great looking boat and clean layout. I have a 29'' rico, they are great handling hulls.

[BakedMopar]

Well I took her out yesterday and made some small adjustments till my props come in. I added 2* of negative on the stinger and moved the COG to 28%. Ran faster than first runs and handled well. Second run I up'd the timming and boy did she really wake up. Not sure on what most run them at but 11.25* she came alive! Brought her in to check temps (motor 105*, esc 115* caps 125*) and noticed the epoxy lifting up from the stringers. I took them out and will re-install them with 3M 5200. It's like the epoxy never "bite" to the hull:confused2:

[Jesse J]

did you prep the hull and clean with acetone? I have had this happen too, you should be ok regluing - now you have all that surface area on the epoxy. be sure to clean the epoxy side as well with acetone.

waiting for some vid, sounds like a fun ride. any pics of her wet?

[BakedMopar]

The hull was prepped good. Sanded and wiped with acetone. The epoxy came clean out. I will be using the 5200 this time around. Hopefully she will be good to go this weekend. Waiting on some props and some batteries too.

[OshkoshMono]

The hull was prepped good. Sanded and wiped with acetone. The epoxy came clean out. I will be using the 5200 this time around. Hopefully she will be good to go this weekend. Waiting on some props and some batteries too.
Is your hull a polyester resin base? Mine is, and aeromarine suggested using a polyester resin instead of epoxy because it is much more compatible. ( I already used the 30 min pace epoxy, so we'll see..) They said The pace finishing resin would be more compatible. I'll use that on mine for future installs.... Hopefully mine holds, I used a ton of epoxy... Good luck.

[BakedMopar]

Well I got some more run time in today. I think its close on the setup. The one thing that I've noticed is this thing will not turn to the left. I know your fighting the prop etc. But i've never had a mono that corners that wide to the left. All in all she handles the rough pretty good especially in the turns. Hopefully this weekend is nice so we can get some video.

[tiqueman]

How are you liking that 180A Turnigy? Im thinking of getting one soon... like in 5 minutes.

[BakedMopar]

I have very limited time on it. Don't want to toot my own horn.Throttle is silky smooth and with the hand held programer it really easy. I run a 580l 7t with a m445 on 4s2p. Temps are under 115. The motor usually comes in at -100 but today she got pretty hot. Hopefully I caught it in time.

[tiqueman]

Hmm.. been longer than 5 minutes, but I think Im going to have to splurge soon.

And I know the answer to this, "Mr non GPS", but what are you thinking, mid 40s? Im considering a 580 for my Genesis. Your only turning mid 20k's on 4S right.. or am I thinking this wrong?

[BakedMopar]

LOL! Yes rpms is around there. Still alot more tuning to go!

[BakedMopar]

Well I took the motor apart to change the bearings due to some noise. Looky what I found

[Rumdog]

UGH!!! These Feigao 580's are JUNK!!! Sorry to hear it man!

[BakedMopar]

Too bad I have a bunch tied up in the mount or I would just scrap the 580 all together. Its a good thing I listened to my "little voice" that said change that bearing NOW!

[tiqueman]

That sux! Hmmmm, starting to reconsider my possible 580 purchase.....

[OshkoshMono]

I hope my 540XL holds up better than that 580. If not....upgrade :buttrock:

[BakedMopar]

The 540's and the 580's are completly different. Yours should be okay. I think this was a freak accident. I actually like the way it performed. It pulled a "heavy" boat with a decent sized prop and was still under 105* after a four minute run.

[Lasse Baardseth]

Hey

I got one just like yours! This happend after 3-4 minutes of runtime:cursing:

[BakedMopar]

Oh that sucks! What kind of problems did it give when it happened. Mine ran fine just the motor got really hot.

[Brushless55]

What temps are you guys seeing before these 580s let go?
Seems as though they are not much better than the KD580s?

[Lasse Baardseth]

I had about 3 short runs where the motor was nice and cool.

On the 4th run it just stopped, i managed to drive it back to me but it ran like if you had disconected one of the tre cables from the motor.

It was then pretty warm and the kevlar had fell off:ThumbsDown01:

I have sendt it back to OSE to see if they could talk to Feigao about warenty.

[BakedMopar]

Mine never stopped. It ran normal on the last run. Temps never got above 105* in humid Hawaii weather. The last run the rotor was over 150*

[OshkoshMono]

Mine never stopped. It ran normal on the last run. Temps never got above 105* in humid Hawaii weather. The last run the rotor was over 150*

Hawaii :biggrin:?? I'm gealous!! I should be able to test my 580 next week. Hope it holds up. Not too worried.

[Rumdog]

Mine was too hot for the temp gun to read when it demagged on run no.1 easily 300 degrees.

[BakedMopar]

Mines did not demag. The wrapping came off the rotor and took a wire or two from the stator. It was a pain in the a$$ to get the rotor out.

Rummy what was your setup when it did?

[Rumdog]

34" cat, Feigao 580 8L, turnigy 5s2p 30c for 10,000mah, Seaking 180 esc and a M445 prop. Ran about 1 minute, fast as heck. Brought it in limping with very little power coming out of a turn to discover the heat. It did get warrantied however but it took a few months. I ran the new one just once in my rico, then sold it.

[Rumdog]

That Castle/Neu 1518 on 5s2p was a freaking beast in that hull. I ran a x548 prop in that bad boy!

[BakedMopar]

Well I got my replacement motor today and got to take her out. Did a extension for the rudder. Now she's much more stable and turns left! Thanks to Steven for the motor and Doug S. for the tunning tips.:thumbup:

Hope to get some video this weekend.:Praying:

[BakedMopar]

Okay got a short run in before the sail boat guys took over:moon: It was pretty windy with some pretty good chop. This is with a bag stock m447. I did not get a chance to play around with others or start to tweak it. So far I'm really pleased on how this hull handles the chop.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq3H_cenZWc

[Brushless55]

Looks good man!

[tiqueman]

Dayum George! Shes gettin it! Another fantastic build my friend. Great job!

[Rumdog]

AGGHHH! looks great! Ran mine today. Seaking 180 4s2p 10000mah and Castle/Neu 2200kv 1515. 3 runs on this setup. It flew with the 645. Not going to lie. I smoked my first Seaking 180. Seriously pissed right now. I've had 4 Seaking 180's on very different and hot setups and no problems. This is the only one I've ever smoked and it made a total mess of my boat. Everything inside is covered in the stinky black tar. Gotta keep it in the garage cause it's so bad. Lipos look like shi*#! Motor and cooling can are stained poo brown. Sometimes I really hate FE boats. In the previous runs, nothing even got remotely hot. I think I snagged a lily pad when planing out and loaded it up. I'm slightly sick to my stomach right now as my Rico is probably my favorite hull and now it is a stinker.

[BakedMopar]

Ah that sucks. I see why everyone likes these hulls!

[Rumdog]

Yep, I guess I'll be scrubbing and disassembling tomorrow. I'm thinking I'll go back to my old setup. Castle/Neu 1518 and 5s2p with a x548 is the best setup I've ran on this rig so far. Just need to buy a new Castle/Neu motor. Yours looks to be running really good too. Have you run it in any chop yet? Thats when they get really fun. It's almost impossible to stuff these hulls, they just keep on ripping!

[BakedMopar]

Actually it's kinda hard to see in the video but it was pretty choppy. At least 4-5" chop. It does get alot sloppier in there though. From my experience with other hulls in the same conditions it's a lot better.

[Doug Smock]

Well done George!!

[BakedMopar]

Thanks guys. More prop testing to come...

[BakedMopar]

Well I got an early Father Day gift today.:hug1: It's a 1521 1.5d. She dropped in with little effort. Much thinner and exactly 3oz. lighter. Will try to give her a whirl tomorrow.

Nuthin wrong with the Feigao, just wanted to try something Neu.

[BakedMopar]

Well I got a few runs in with the Neu. With the same M447 it was almost the same speed as with the Feigao 580 but a little cooler (-10 degrees) with a less amp draw. I put on a x646 and wohoo! The feigao didn't respond well with the 6 series props but the Neu spins it no problem. Temps after a four minute run are motor 110, esc 130, batts 125 and burns about 8000 mah. Will try out a x447/3 and a x648 hopefully soon.

FWIW IMO those Feigao 580s are decent for the price.

[BakedMopar]

Alrighty. After some running on the Neu I found the caps on the Turnigy get HOT. Iv'e taken readings of them in the 150* range with the bigger porps. ESC temps remain around 125-130 though. I'm going to try this out and see how she goes.

[electric]

Alrighty. After some running on the Neu I found the caps on the Turnigy get HOT. Iv'e taken readings of them in the 150* range with the bigger porps. ESC temps remain around 125-130 though. I'm going to try this out and see how she goes.

Where did you get the caps? I know zero about caps so could you tell me exactly what type you are using. I am also running that same ESC. Where does it solder in to the ESC? Sorry for the questions, just thiking I need to do this also because I have already fried one of those ESC's.

The caps help deal with the amp spikes that occur when you are excellerating correct?

[BakedMopar]

The caps are the exact ones that are on there now. I purchaesd them from cap king for $.60 each and free shipping. Haven't run it yet but theoretically it should smooth out the volatge ripple to the esc. The circut board is soldered directly to the input wires.

[nogood]

Hi guys,

Nice looking boat you got there:)
I love Rico`s boats. The quality and finish of the hulls are flawless.

I have the same hull equ with 240Hydra and Neu 1515 1Y. Running with 2xRhino 4s 4900mah.
But I have I problem:) I cant keep the boat on the water, she`s more an airplane.
What hight do you have the center of the propshaft? How long is the extension on the rudder? I have tried different CG but without any luck.

[BakedMopar]

Hi guys,

Nice looking boat you got there:)
I love Rico`s boats. The quality and finish of the hulls are flawless.

I have the same hull equ with 240Hydra and Neu 1515 1Y. Running with 2xRhino 4s 4900mah.
But I have I problem:) I cant keep the boat on the water, she`s more an airplane.
What hight do you have the center of the propshaft? How long is the extension on the rudder? I have tried different CG but without any luck.

This boat should be very stable up into the 60 mph range. My propshaft is 1/2" up from the keel. Rudder leading edge is inline with the drive dog. My COG is at 28.5%. Trim tabs are also located further out to let the boat settle more in the water. Hope this helps, these hull are awesome.



I have run this esc with the extra caps. It cooled the caps down almost 30 degrees and the esc almost 5 degrees.

[nogood]

Thanks for the reply. I`ll check my strut hight tomorrow, just back from a weekend trip with the family.
But I am sure that my strut hight is a bit less then 1/2". I will also try to move the trim tabs out.
I`ll be back:)

[OshkoshMono]

Well I got an early Father Day gift today.:hug1: It's a 1521 1.5d. She dropped in with little effort. Much thinner and exactly 3oz. lighter. Will try to give her a whirl tomorrow.

Nuthin wrong with the Feigao, just wanted to try something Neu.
This boat is really looking nice! Do you have a hard time getting at the coupler for cable greasing ect... with the motor wires over it? The layout really looks clean though, nice!

[Doug Smock]

Just a FYI.
I run up to one pound of lead in mine depending on the conditions.
Love the boat!!
Doug

[BakedMopar]

This boat is really looking nice! Do you have a hard time getting at the coupler for cable greasing ect... with the motor wires over it? The layout really looks clean though, nice!

No. The esc is eld by Velcro. Just move it towards the side and there's enough room to get to the coupler.

With two 4s 5000's rtr weight is just over 10lbs:eek:

[OshkoshMono]

No. The esc is eld by Velcro. Just move it towards the side and there's enough room to get to the coupler.

With two 4s 5000's rtr weight is just over 10lbs:eek:
Man that thing must really scream! I hope to finish my boat soon. My life is just too nuts lately and NO free time. It just needs the swordfish ESC programed and I'll be able to go test it out. Good job on your boat, it looks great.:buttrock:

[nogood]

This boat should be very stable up into the 60 mph range. My propshaft is 1/2" up from the keel. Rudder leading edge is inline with the drive dog. My COG is at 28.5%. Trim tabs are also located further out to let the boat settle more in the water. Hope this helps, these hull are awesome.



I have run this esc with the extra caps. It cooled the caps down almost 30 degrees and the esc almost 5 degrees.

I`ve checked the strut hight and that is about 5,5mm from keel to senter of prop shaft:doh:
Then I have some cutting to do...
Do you guys use teflon liner?

[DISAR]

some yes some no, everybody is happy with or without :thumbup:

in my opinion with the teflon liner the flex runs a little bit smoother and quiter especially at high rpm

[DISAR]

The caps are the exact ones that are on there now. I purchaesd them from cap king for $.60 each and free shipping. Haven't run it yet but theoretically it should smooth out the volatge ripple to the esc. The circut board is soldered directly to the input wires.

very nice job! maybe you have already done this but just to coat the additional circuit board to waterproof it

[BakedMopar]

...
Do you guys use teflon liner?

This perticular build does not have a liner. It runs fine. Like Disar stated it's really up to you.


very nice job! maybe you have already done this but just to coat the additional circuit board to waterproof it


Yes the circuit board has been waterproofed and insulated.

[josejavier]

Well the motor mount came in so i started cutting out my rails and deck. Got everything broke down and will start to seal with epoxy.

Nice motor mount , were do you bought it ?

[BakedMopar]

Nice motor mount , were do you bought it ?

Motor mount is done by Mr. Peter Zicha a.k.a. Punisher 67

Here's (http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=10698) his service thread.

Yes these thing are beautiful.

[BakedMopar]

Well here is a short clip of it with the Neu. It's getting there.

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[Rumdog]

Very nice Baked! She looks absolutely dialed!

[Rumdog]

Any new updates on this sweet Rico? I just scrubbed all the goo out of mine tonight. Got a BIG motor coming for her. I wanna see what she can do! These hulls can take big speed. They like lots of weight too.

[BakedMopar]

Nah nuthin major. I made some turn fins that works much better than that carbon fiber ones. Its a little bigger, much stronger and sharper. It holds speeds much better in the corners. I'm pretty happy at where its at so I've just been enjoying it.

[Rumdog]

Cool. It's nice having a good running reliable setup, huh? I'm going to try the Neu/Castle 1717 in mine. Overkill, maybe, But it will be a blast. BTW What is your Avatar? Been trying to make out what it is for a couple days.

[Chuck E Cheese]

ok i am on board with this build now. i have a cc240, ordered a 1521 1.5d, speedmaster strut and rudder. pm sent for the motor mount. now i just need the hull. what trim tabs are you using? they look big. how about turn fins and flex? i was thinking about .078 wire drive. what cells are you using. that thing looks like a blast!

[BakedMopar]

Trim tabs are accu-tech. There 2" long. They work great. I've changed the fin to something I made. I'll try to get a picture up. Cells are Turnigy 4s2p 4000 40-50c.

[Rumdog]

Yeah, the Rico likes long trim tabs. I have the same ones.

[Chuck E Cheese]

where did you get those? i ordered teh speedmaster 1.5"

[BakedMopar]

Those should be fine. I bought mine direct from Accu-Tech. They do a lot of business with Rico Racing so they just threw it in the box and shipped it together.