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Capt. Crash
03-19-2010, 10:32 AM
Which of my props will work best on this UL-1, 1:10, powered boat. I don't want to hand launch.

Here is all I have...all grim props.:

38-55/2
40-52/3
40-57/3

She is not completed (cockpit and tail and graphics...etc) but I'm giving her the maiden tomorrow.

I have the 38-55 on her right now but I've never tried that prop. Do I need to go with a different one?

Crash

JimClark
03-19-2010, 01:18 PM
typically a 45mm to 47mm works well

Capt. Crash
03-19-2010, 01:31 PM
Hey Jim...you do get around...lol

The above is all I have in the box that would even work with this motor. Which would you try first?

JimClark
03-19-2010, 01:45 PM
38 is way to small not sure on the 3 blades. I certainly would not judge how well it performs with those props

JimClark
03-19-2010, 01:47 PM
By the way I am contemplating a 1/16th scale checkerboard Bardahl. What did you use for the yellow? Where did you get the color code for it? I think I have a couple 45mm RH Graupner carbon props that work well,. If I do I could send you one.
JIm

Brushless55
03-19-2010, 01:52 PM
is this hull the same in size as the UL-1?
if so anyone of those props will work and the 40-57/3 will work great!

JimClark
03-19-2010, 01:58 PM
nope it is 1/10th scale 36 inches long

Brushless55
03-19-2010, 02:04 PM
a 45mm to 47mm prop could be to much with this motor
BJ power it will work great, but I'm not so sure with the UL-1 motor?

JimClark
03-19-2010, 02:11 PM
you might be right maybe a 40 or 42 to start just not sure of the 3 blade


a 45mm to 47mm prop could be to much with this motor
BJ power it will work great, but I'm not so sure with the UL-1 motor?

Hydromaniac
03-19-2010, 02:11 PM
I hope you have better luck in your 1/10 with a UL-1, We have burnt up a couple of them, a 36 inch boat needs some torque, Good Luck. Start with about a 42 MM prop, something like an X442 and go up from there if your temps are safe. Make short runs to start with.

Capt. Crash
03-19-2010, 03:43 PM
Ok...thanks guys...I 'll go back to the 3 blade and hope she will get on plane. I didn't think a couple of inches would make that much difference between this and the UL-1, hence the UL-1 power...I guess I will find out tomorrow.

Jim...I'm using plain ole Rustoleum rattle can yellow. It takes a long time to dry but seems to work well and the the Rustoleum Gloss Clear dries quick to the touch and looks pretty good on top of it.

BHChieftain
03-19-2010, 10:43 PM
Did you paint the black checks or use decals?
If painted, how did you do it?

-Chief

JimClark
03-19-2010, 11:01 PM
they are vinyl


Did you paint the black checks or use decals?
If painted, how did you do it?

-Chief

Capt. Crash
03-22-2010, 09:10 AM
I hope you have better luck in your 1/10 with a UL-1, We have burnt up a couple of them, a 36 inch boat needs some torque, Good Luck. Start with about a 42 MM prop, something like an X442 and go up from there if your temps are safe. Make short runs to start with.

What props?

Here is a video of the sail yesterday with some cracker, UL-1 and the Miss Bardahl footage. I got a cool running 39.7 mph with a conservative 40-52/3 prop 1st day out....I should be able to shake more out of her with some tuning.

Crash


http://vimeo.com/10327539

Fluid
03-22-2010, 10:05 AM
..I didn't think a couple of inches would make that much difference between this and the UL-1, hence the UL-1 power...

Hmmm, 36"- 27" = 9" is a bit more than a "couple of inches"....
The UL-1 motor is really not well suited for this large hull, that's probably why the hydro falls off in speed so much in the corners. The boat catches enough air to run reasonably well in a straight line, but overall performance would be better with a BJ or SV motor and a larger prop. It would also get on plane easier. Did the boat thermal in the video? If not, just two minutes of run time to LVC indicates a pretty high amp draw - what cells were you running?

If you insist on running this motor, you'll need to flatten the strut or move weight back a bit to stop the transom hopping - this causes amp spikes which are extremely hard on the ESC. Otherwise it is a beautiful boat, can't wait to see it completed.



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Capt. Crash
03-22-2010, 11:03 AM
Hmmm, 36"- 27" = 9" is a bit more than a "couple of inches"....
Did the boat thermal in the video? If not, just two minutes of run time to LVC indicates a pretty high amp draw - what cells were you running?
.

Yea...I thought about that after I posted it and went home and measured again...I don't know what I was thinking...lol

No...I forgot to tighten the coupler set screw and had to rescue her.

I'm running MAX AMP 2s 5250 30Cs. I did notice a little less run time....but the motor was running about 110-115 degrees, everything else was under 100 degrees. Yes it will run a little hotter pushing this boat....especially when it gets 95 here this summer.

The whole reason for the UL-1 power was to save money on a receational/exhibition/fun boat. I got all the electronics, radio and hardware in her for about $200.00.

We have too small a pond to race these without killing ourselves on the the wall, the wildlife and/or each other. The pond is better suited to a smaller UL-1 class of racing.

I will be trying other props and cgs, but the strut is nonadjustable.

Thanks for the suggestions and kind comments.

Here is the Miss Bardahl Video with the long runs included.

http://vimeo.com/10323157

Brushless55
03-22-2010, 08:05 PM
Looks good man!

Capt. Crash
03-31-2010, 09:39 AM
Thanks...here she is as of today.

Brushless55
03-31-2010, 02:22 PM
Wow that looks good!
Wish I had some extra cash lying around to have one built for me..

Capt. Crash
03-31-2010, 02:43 PM
Thanks....you think Mr. Racer will like his name on this? :olleyes:

Grimracer
04-01-2010, 03:04 PM
Dude.. you are hired!

You have inspired us all!

LOVE THAT CHECKERBORD COMMET!

ROCKET AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grim

Capt. Crash
04-05-2010, 11:56 AM
They can be found here...and include some wrecks.


http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?p=172571#post172571