More Venom Boats?

[hydromaddicted]

http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VEN-1816

http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VEN-1817

[Rumdog]

pretty cool. Not sure about the inline rudder on the mono though. It is a good looking scale hull.

[RCprince]

That motor is gonna kill their product every time. If they fix that AQ and PB better look out.

[Rumdog]

is it the same 380 motor that's in the ekos? If so, It's gonna be a major dog in a mono that size!!

[RCprince]

here goes a better pic. http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=258489

the fountain seems to be running an out-runner.

[RCprince]

Miss Excite http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=258488

[NitroVal]

No, they are using a 540 size motor in this boat.. Which is good. Easier to ditch the stock junk and put some nice power into..
For as many problems people think Venom is having, they sure are nailing the scale look of the professional racers down for sure

[Rumdog]

WOW, that hydro looks a LOT like a Delta Force vortex!!

[Diesel6401]

I really like the mono, man the wife is not going to be happy with me on this one!!!

[Brushless55]

the 31" mono is setup for 3s?
I wonder what the KV is

[Brushless55]

WOW, that hydro looks a LOT like a Delta Force vortex!!

and I bet money it is a copy, same dimensions.
and I want one now! :banana:

[Rumdog]

You could buy a DF hull and buil your own with better gear for less money!

[JCAustralia]

Nothing better than more choices for the consumer and more competition among the suppliers.

Can't wait to see what Aquacraft and Proboat will come out with:popcorn2::popcorn2::popcorn2:

JC

[ray schrauwen]

At least Venom has a hull that is made properly. The quality of first run UL-1 hulls was a joke. They were as poor or worse than the SuperVee.

[Brushless55]

the thing with Aquacraft is they have Grim who does major RnD and makes great gear for their boats..
venom, well??
we saw what happend with the customer service with them
at least one good thing with venom is they do not make their own hulls

[ray schrauwen]

Can't argue with that. Venom has totally dropped the ball on EKOS cust. serv.

I don't know about the rest of the products?

[Drag Boat Bob]

Again they get a "A" in the looks and detail of their hulls...

We will have to see if they have learned anything about what to put on the inside however. Let's hope so...

My EKOS is now out of the storage box and sporting new motors and esc's. Just need some decent weather...

[Drag Boat Bob]

On the Venom site under specifications for the Miss Excite is describes the motor as being a V500 Marine Brushless motor (same as the V hull).

However in the picture and description it describes the motor as being the V380 2850kv motor, which is the same as what they put in the EKOS. That would not be a good choice in my opinion.

[forescott]

what motors/esc'c? Id like to upgrade myself.

[Drag Boat Bob]

what motors/esc'c? Id like to upgrade myself.

We'll have to see if this was a good choice or just an intermediate one. I wanted to stay with the 3s batteries I bought initially, so I stayed with the 28mm motor. I selected the ARC 28-58-1. It is reported to run at 1000+ watts so I upgraded the esc's to the Seaking 120's.

I'll post the results after I hit the water... if it ever stops raining...

[forescott]

I want to try the arc 28-47-1.5 2800kv motors but havent purchased them yet because Im not sure if the water jackets I bought from ose will fit. What water jackets are you using. I have the ones for sale on ose for the feigao 380 motors and am using them with ammo 2700kv motors.

[forescott]

Its raining here in gilroy right now. Otherwise Id probably be running my ekos.

[Drag Boat Bob]

I want to try the arc 28-47-1.5 2800kv motors but havent purchased them yet because Im not sure if the water jackets I bought from ose will fit. What water jackets are you using. I have the ones for sale on ose for the feigao 380 motors and am using them with ammo 2700kv motors.

I used the ones for the Feigao 380, but let me say that the .4mm difference is HUGE. It was a &^%#@#*&^***t$&*^$%! to get on. In fact I ruined one of the "O" rings doing it. My idea to try them was somewhat based on you getting them on the Ammo motors, as they are described as being 28mm also.

I would not recommend using these water jackets on the ARC 28mm motors. The fit is just way too tight.

[Brushless55]

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[Brushless55]

On the Venom site under specifications for the Miss Excite is describes the motor as being a V500 Marine Brushless motor (same as the V hull).

However in the picture and description it describes the motor as being the V380 2850kv motor, which is the same as what they put in the EKOS. That would not be a good choice in my opinion.

do you think it will be under powered?
I would like to get the little Hydro and use a UL-1 motor and esc on 4s!

[Drag Boat Bob]

do you think it will be under powered?
I would like to get the little Hydro and use a UL-1 motor and esc on 4s!

Sweet looking little hull and I would like to see that setup, but what are you going to do with the innards?

As far as the 380 goes, I really don't know if it is underpowered in that hull, but two of them using the designed 3s could only muster 34mph in the EKOS. Of course I only had one run to base that on...

Even being a hydro guy, I like the mono. I am interested to see how that outrunner does, but I'm not going to be one of the first this time...

Get the hydro, give her a run and let us know...

[Ub Hauled]

I have to say that I rather push a Hydro then own a mono... but man... this is a nice looking mono!!! If this is NAMBA "compatible" I'd give it a spin... any one of you mono guys out there know if this hull is NAMBA legal?

[illz302]

the 31" mono is setup for 3s?
I wonder what the KV is

With the rep of the EKOS in my mind i would think this mono would be able to run up to maybe 6s on that outrunner!

[Rumdog]

no way!

[Brushless55]

With the rep of the EKOS in my mind i would think this mono would be able to run up to maybe 6s on that outrunner!

I dought 6s, you cannot run the ekos on 4s for very long.. :glare:
but I really would like to know the kv of that outrunner..
If it's 1200 to 1500kv that would get my attention :thumbup1:

[illz302]

does anyone know when this fountain mono will be available?

[forescott]

Yeah, Id like to know this too! My birthday is coming up at the end of march,and its at the top of my list!

[illz302]

Yeah, Id like to know this too! My birthday is coming up at the end of march,and its at the top of my list!


Haha same here april for me though and yes if it is available I will buy one for my birthday.

[cugino]

Hi,

Boats are very nice.

Do you know what resin was used? Is ti strong Epoxy or weak and heavy polyester?

Thanks, Cugi

[Brushless55]

Hi,
Boats are very nice.
Do you know what resin was used? Is ti strong Epoxy or weak and heavy polyester?
Thanks, Cugi

Not sure, but I do know Venom does not build the hulls

[cugino]

I see,

If Venom is only reseller, it would be china production, so i thing it is polyester, because chineese still cant do epoxy hulls. But i can teach them :-)

[Brushless55]

Reseller, that's a good word for them..

[BILL OXIDEAN]

Had my hands on the P1 and its a NICE hull. Completely legal for P-offshore.
Neat layup, medium, I believe the sucker will run WELL.

The factory paintjob on these boats is unreal.
The p1 is nice.

[ray schrauwen]

Would be great if they ever stock them. That and spare parts are non-existent....

Not good.

What is motor KV and amp rating?

What is motor dimensions?

Inquiring minds want to know and Venom no tell !!??

[Brushless55]

I thought I saw some where the kv is 2000

[ray schrauwen]

I taught I ta a puddy tat too.

[Darin Jordan]

Completely legal for P-offshore.


Bill... Weird... it's advertised as a 35" hull, but the specs say 31.25"... Beam is 7.25"... That's a NARROW boat... Will be interesting to see how it goes.

Now we just need to figure out what the specs are for a "V500 Marine Brushless Motor"... Same motor that's in their 24" (really 22", according to the specs" Miss Excite...

[ray schrauwen]

Why cannot Venom just tell us?

They do this stuff alot, bugs the crap out of me. Thats the reason I bought a hull only Ekos. I don't have to worry about what they are doing "electrically". Just need to get race boats done and then I can build it.

Nice hull though.

I would like the hull only since the "rules" don't allow outrunners in P-spec and besides I don't know if its a good p-spec motor, no specs....

[Brushless55]

Maybe they don't want to tell us because we could figure out where they import from?

[FE Wannabe]

I am concerned about the narrowness of the hull as well. The Aeromarine Rio Roses hull that is 30" x 6" had some issues with torque roll from what I remember.
This hull is a bit larger 31.25" x 7.25" so hopefully it will work a little better. It will probably be fine at RTR speeds, I am just wondering how well it will take mods.

Brad

[ray schrauwen]

Maybe they don't want to tell us because we could figure out where they import from?

Likely, that and the smallish pictures so you can't get a good look. They did this with the ekos too.

Hey Bill, how come your cell phone camera wasn't on?:confused2:

[Rumdog]

have you guys not seen the vid venom did of this boat running?

[ray schrauwen]

Here are some not baD pics...

It could be a Turnigy Typhoon 500 motor??

Love my Typhoon.

[ray schrauwen]

have you guys not seen the vid venom did of this boat running?

Yep, lots of glitz music again, let me hear the motor more please, thanks.

[Rumdog]

the motor is 2000kv as stated by Chris Nicastro from venom. Looked good to me in the vid. What more do you want, its not even on the market yet?

[ray schrauwen]

O.k. if Chris says 2000Kv then I am satisfied. Did they run 3S or 4S in the vid?

@ 2000 Kv the Typhoon 500 looks to be very close, just black instead.

[BILL OXIDEAN]

For a hobby shop RTR I feel they're the most bang for your buck.
The paintjob alone is money lol

After seeing this sweet little boat in real life, I don't think many would be less than charmed by it.

The Euro style stock motor may not be a beast, but any optimistic boater would look at the boat and picture how easy a big block will drop in.

The hull is a true 34 inches after measuring it.

[Brushless55]

anyone with a part # on just the hull?

[ray schrauwen]

anyone with a part # on just the hull?

LOL....:roflol:

[JEDNJONES]

I just put one on back order at tower w/ $30 off cupon.....says expected due date of mid June.

[BILL OXIDEAN]

I just put one on back order at tower w/ $30 off cupon.....says expected due date of mid June.

Sounds like ALL the popular kids are copping one..
Rumor has it that Randy @ BBY scored himself a King Of Shaves bare hull..

Real interested to see how Naylor sets the sucker up..

[sailr]

why don't you thinki the Chinese can't do epoxy hulls? Tenshock uses West System Epoxy on their vacuum bagged hulls.


I see,

If Venom is only reseller, it would be china production, so i thing it is polyester, because chineese still cant do epoxy hulls. But i can teach them :-)

[sippirat]

2 cents from me to you. yeah good luck with venom junk!!!! research and you will all see.

[cugino]

why don't you thinki the Chinese can't do epoxy hulls? Tenshock uses West System Epoxy on their vacuum bagged hulls.

Hi,

actually, i have no experience wiht TenShock Hull. All chinese hulls i ever held in my hands was heavy, weak and smelly polyester.

I allready know, that polyester hulls are easier to do. Cheaper material and short time periods to build one makes them cheper then epoxy..... kvality and higher price isnt compatible with chinese business polytics :-)

[JEDNJONES]

Sounds like ALL the popular kids are copping one..
Rumor has it that Randy @ BBY scored himself a King Of Shaves bare hull..

Real interested to see how Naylor sets the sucker up..

Yea, me too.....and- Oh, How sweet would it be to obtain a bare hull.

[ray schrauwen]

Yea, me too.....and- Oh, How sweet would it be to obtain a bare hull.

It's really sweet....

I was very lucky, extremely lucky. I ordered a hatch only for my HOR cat, they sent me an entire hull for $35 and then 2 months later I recieved a second hatch only...

Thats lucky...:beerchug: :thumbup:


.... it wasn't Venom, it was an online rc shop.

[forescott]

There is a lot of venom bashing going on right now over in the ekos forums. I cant say I blame -em.:iagree: But the ekos is by far one of the coolest most scale-looking hulls I have seen so far, and I cant wait to get my hands on the P-1! :bounce:

[Brushless55]

There is a lot of venom bashing going on right now over in the ekos forums. I cant say I blame -em.:iagree: But the ekos is by far one of the coolest most scale-looking hulls I have seen so far, and I cant wait to get my hands on the P-1! :bounce:

:iagree:
I think the ekos cat is only 135 bucks for the hull :thumbup1:

[VIKOS]

Geez u guys are hard on venom lol either way my ekos runs great on 4s lipos. How long don't k ow but doesn't matter cause motors and esc is what I want anyways. So far I've done 4 full runs on 4s with no issues. I see people still going high kv on there motors so I don't think the kv rating is the issue. I think it's crimped cooling hoses causing over heating to be. Gona run this weekend again for the 5th time on 4s if she blows then no issues. If she runs then I guess it will never blow since third times a charm and I've already passed that. I'll still do cool down passes which shouldn't matter if the motors or esc would blow they'd do it from amps not heat so much.

[ray schrauwen]

Geez u guys are hard on venom lol either way my ekos runs great on 4s lipos. How long don't k ow but doesn't matter cause motors and esc is what I want anyways. So far I've done 4 full runs on 4s with no issues. I see people still going high kv on there motors so I don't think the kv rating is the issue. I think it's crimped cooling hoses causing over heating to be. Gona run this weekend again for the 5th time on 4s if she blows then no issues. If she runs then I guess it will never blow since third times a charm and I've already passed that. I'll still do cool down passes which shouldn't matter if the motors or esc would blow they'd do it from amps not heat so much.

How do you do cool down laps or passes with an electric boat? I'm dying to find out.:sarcasm1:

:popcorn2:

[slyman]

Good luck on getting the Hydro, I know someone who has had one on order since April. They keep pushing the delivery date out on this guy. Now the latest date is in September.

Don't show it if you can't deliver.

[VIKOS]

How do you do cool down laps or passes with an electric boat? I'm dying to find out.:sarcasm1:

:popcorn2:

Half throttle runs. I noticed at the marina at full throttle water spurts out...maybe it's the speed maybe it's the wind but at half throttle I can see a stream of water instead of spurting. This may matter this may not but I do notice my motors are WAY cooler this way than with wot on a whole battery pack. All it a hinch call it following the gas boat guys. It works for me. And on 4s with all the hype of blowing things I'll take it easy. Ohh my esc never even get warm, motors do and batteries do which is normal.

[ray schrauwen]

Odd, with most electric boats it is the opposite. If you had better cooling intake, you would not need to do this and with many electrics 1/2 throttle is a death sentance.

[Make-a-Wake]

Here's a cool vid of the KOS mono in slo-mo...............looks like a 1/1 boat, especially at about 0:15 on................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bjojn9tV_w

[lomdel]

... and with many electrics 1/2 throttle is a death sentence.

I agree. That is also why with electrics you MUST set your throttle channel Travel/EPA at 100%. Reduced throttle input places strain on the ESC and that causes heat. Reduced speed will ensure cleaner cooling water flow through the system, but the heat generated by the ESC is the issue...