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BakedMopar
12-20-2009, 03:54 PM
I see some people using these. Are they worth the money? How do they compare to the turnigy/zippy packs? I use a 2200 30-40c turnigy and I keep puffing them. Hyperion has a 2600 35-65c pack that will fit. Would like some feedback on quality before laying down the $$.


Thanks,
George

Doby
12-20-2009, 04:08 PM
What application are you using them in?

photohoward1
12-20-2009, 04:08 PM
I see some people using these. Are they worth the money? How do they compare to the turnigy/zippy packs? I use a 2200 30-40c turnigy and I keep puffing them. Hyperion has a 2650 35-65c pack that will fit. Would like some feedback on quality before laying down the $$.


Thanks,
George


Great Quality but why are you puffing the other cells. What is the set-up you are running? How many amps are you drawing. Packs listed above are only good for 60 to 80 amps. Also are you drawing them down to far.

HT

BakedMopar
12-20-2009, 04:34 PM
Mini hydro 17.5"

Feigao 8l 380
x632 prop
3s 11.1v

Not sure on the amp draw (around 66 amps?) but I do know I am over taxing these things. That's why I want to get bigger, better ones. Batteries are cut off at 3.3v per cell.


George

detox
12-20-2009, 04:51 PM
The G3 cells are not puff proof. They to will puff if you do not know what you are doing.


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hide
12-20-2009, 05:18 PM
I'm using 1600mah 2S 35C Hyperions in my mini Revo to power a 540 motor (in parallel). When doing this with some '35C' brand of other cells (also 3200mah total) they got hot. Using the Hyperions they do not even get warm. Certainly deliver the current they promise.

Good price too!

BakedMopar
12-20-2009, 05:24 PM
The G3 cells are not puff proof. They to will puff if you do not know what you are doing.


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I know they are not puff proof, nothing is. Yes I may be new to boats but if you have any tips or see that i'm doing something wrong say it.



FE calculator says I'm pulling around 66 amps. Turnigy 2200 30-40c batteries are only putting out 66-88 amps. I know I am over drawing them with the x632. Hyperion has 2600 35-65c which would be 91-171.6 amp which is about 30%more.

George

westbeach
12-20-2009, 05:47 PM
Did anyone catch this? You should set you esc to cutoff at 3.7V per cell. At 3.3 you're killing the cells. 3.7x3s=11.1V not 3.3x3s=9.9 There lies your problem! :doh:


Batteries are cut off at 3.3v per cell.
George

BakedMopar
12-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Did anyone catch this? You should set you esc to cutoff at 3.7V per cell. At 3.3 you're killing the cells. 3.7x3s=11.1V not 3.3x3s=9.9 There lies your problem! :doh:

Cutoff is set at 3.3v which is underload. When I put them on the charger it reads 3.7 and higher. Am I missing something here.

hide
12-20-2009, 06:13 PM
Most touring car racers I know set the lipo cutoff at 3V with no problems, wouldn't worry too much there.

photohoward1
12-20-2009, 08:52 PM
Did anyone catch this? You should set you esc to cutoff at 3.7V per cell. At 3.3 you're killing the cells. 3.7x3s=11.1V not 3.3x3s=9.9 There lies your problem! :doh:

Wrong!

The Hyperion are superior cells. They use the new tech and if you use them within their set parameters they rarely get hot. Just don't go below 80% use.

If you were puffing them because of over amping them with a cut-off of 3.3 they would shut down before damage. You would think.

properchopper
12-20-2009, 09:28 PM
Sorry to go a little off course, but I need to buy some new 4S 5000 race packs. Will be using for P-Offshore [ 4 min. race] with a DF 33/Neu 1521 1.5D. I see that the 45C Thunderpowers are now available for @ 75 bucks/ pair more than the G3's. Any input to help me decide ? I have 6 Flightpower/Turnigys now but I'm thinking for the extremes of offshore I'd rather not push them all that hard.

Raydee
12-20-2009, 09:51 PM
I have in the past and will continue to say that the G3 packs are the best packs I have ever used. I know that the TP packs are out and I hear they are good BUT are they better than the G3 packs? For less money I will still buy the G3 packs all day long over TP.

For low amp applications I would say that the Flightmax/Zippy cells are fine but for anything that is drawing some power I would spend a bit more on the G3 cells. I run some flightmax cells in my heli's and they are great for the money but I get a lot more power from my G3's.

Jeepers
12-20-2009, 10:45 PM
I for one am very impressed with the Hyperion G3 packs, I have 4 2s 6500s and 4 2s 4200s and they perform great!

BakedMopar
12-20-2009, 11:53 PM
I use turnigys exclusively as of now. The bigger batteries seem to be fine (5000) I think the amp draw I have is a little too much for their smaller packs (2200). I'm going to give these a try will report back after I test them out.

sailr
12-21-2009, 01:58 AM
I ran my 2S 5500 hyperion G3's for the first time today. I couldn't believe the increase in power of my flightpower 5000's! Absolutely phenomenal. AND they are priced good. If you insist on saving money rather than going performance and reliability, go for the Zippy's. I've heard good things about them.

Himalaya
12-21-2009, 05:38 AM
I purchased two G3 big packs, the 4200mAh 6S VX in the summer, they are great packs. I then bought two Turnigy 5000mAh 6S pack in the fall and now regret why didn't I get aware of them a bit earlier, at least before I bought the G3s.

Here are some interesting test data, wish it helps.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160946

Unsullied_Spy
12-21-2009, 03:33 PM
You're puffing the Turnigy packs because you're over-drawing them, try a larger pack. The Hyperion G3s are excellent packs but the Turnigys are very good for what you pay. I have 2 1800 2s 35C G3s parallelled in my Mini Revo and with the optional speed gear they never even get warm and provide about 40 minutes of run time and can be charged from totally empty (at the LVC) to 100% in about 20 minutes or to the end of the CC phase around 12 minutes.

BakedMopar
12-21-2009, 03:44 PM
Yes I do know that I am overdrawing them. I know that's why they are puffing. They are only (2200) rated for 66-88 amp draw and I know I am pulling more than that based on run time. I would stick with turnigys/zippys if they had a bigger pack that will fit in my boat. They don't. Hyperion has larger packs (2600) with a little higher c rating 91-169 amp draw that will cover my needs hopefully.

The question of the topic is if the Hyperion cells hold true to their claims. I have ordered two and will be testing them as soon as they come.

D. Newland
12-21-2009, 04:10 PM
Sorry to go a little off course, but I need to buy some new 4S 5000 race packs. Will be using for P-Offshore [ 4 min. race] with a DF 33/Neu 1521 1.5D. I see that the 45C Thunderpowers are now available for @ 75 bucks/ pair more than the G3's. Any input to help me decide ? I have 6 Flightpower/Turnigys now but I'm thinking for the extremes of offshore I'd rather not push them all that hard.

T-with a 4 min offshore race, you're only running a 90-100 amp setup (10C). The difference in voltage between a G3 35C 5000 and a 45C TP may be slightly noticeable, but barely at 10C...and may even bring on a DNF! That's my take, anyway.

My P Offshore is still using the 25C G-3's.

Unsullied_Spy
12-21-2009, 04:34 PM
Sounds good, keep us posted.