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Steven Vaccaro
11-16-2009, 11:57 PM
I started testing the Swordfish line of esc's. I have some 120's and 90's. These come with a bec and are for 2-6s lipo.

Here is some more info from the manual.


·Microprocessor controlled, extremely low resistance

·Water-proof PCB design, and aluminium water-cool thermal dissipation

·Full protection soft, include signal lose protection, temperature protection, motor block-up protection.

·Fully program by software on computer, or by Hifei LCD program box, or by TX stick

·The firmware of the ESC is upgradeable from Internet as the new version of the software becomes
available.

·Compatible to use with both general board transmitters and pistol transmitters with programmable brake setting for any competitions.

Diegoboy
11-16-2009, 11:59 PM
How do you like them so far?
...and the always popular... "how much will the sell for?"

Steven Vaccaro
11-17-2009, 12:11 AM
programing with the box is simple as hell. Which is huge.

I haven't worked out the exact pricing yet. But it will be a bit more than the x-power but a more powerful.

BakedMopar
11-17-2009, 12:18 AM
I was trying to buy these from china with no success. If you get them in I would be interested. Would you be selling the box also?


Aloha,
George

Steven Vaccaro
11-17-2009, 07:20 AM
I bought the computer and stand alone programmers to test. So far I have only tested the stand alone. I will be testing the computer link tonight.

Cat-Boi
11-17-2009, 10:38 AM
I would be interested in the 120. simple is good!!!!

bea5017
11-17-2009, 02:19 PM
intrest in the 120

tsenecal
11-17-2009, 05:31 PM
interest in the 120, depending of course on the price tag...

sailr
11-17-2009, 05:32 PM
If these are made by Hifei, they should be excellent. They make my aircraft controllers. BEST I have ever found.

rawsonreyes
01-09-2010, 03:11 PM
i am awaiting for two for my shockerman twin drive cat, that's all i am missing hope they are great, let me know by p.m thank you mr steven.asap:banana:rawsonreyes.

sailr
01-09-2010, 03:29 PM
Steven,


Any update on these?

toysRme
01-10-2010, 07:42 AM
Steve,


Are they making a larger version 180 or 200 ???

Steven Vaccaro
01-10-2010, 06:36 PM
I played with some and like them.
I will be ordering some this week. I hope to have them in a couple of weeks.

Tuslow1
01-10-2010, 07:41 PM
you've got my attention......

westbeach
01-10-2010, 09:05 PM
Interested as well. Please keep me informed when you figure out pricing and stock availability. Thanks Steve.


I played with some and like them.
I will be ordering some this week. I hope to have them in a couple of weeks.

BILL OXIDEAN
01-12-2010, 02:20 PM
They look VERY similar to an ETTI to me..
I wouldn't be suprised if ETTI OEM them or at least the cooling plate

Steven Vaccaro
01-12-2010, 02:34 PM
They look VERY similar to an ETTI to me..
I wouldn't be suprised if ETTI OEM them or at least the cooling plate

Not even close to the same side by side.

BILL OXIDEAN
01-12-2010, 02:45 PM
Not even close to the same side by side.

Now that I looked closer they don't

detox
01-14-2010, 11:25 PM
I think the new Turnigy esc's are the same.

BILL OXIDEAN
01-15-2010, 12:45 PM
I think the new Turnigy esc's are the same.

I think you're right! I wonder how the performance is on 'em..

Icareu
01-19-2010, 07:12 AM
You've got our attention, Steve, come on.
Any pricing info?

Steven Vaccaro
01-19-2010, 07:20 AM
probably about $79.99. I'm waiting on final shipping details and costs.

Gerwin Brommer
02-04-2010, 12:57 AM
ToysRme :

http://www.hifei.com/en/News_View.asp?NewsID=107

Jeepers
02-04-2010, 06:59 PM
ToysRme :

http://www.hifei.com/en/News_View.asp?NewsID=107

nice, were do you buy them??

westbeach
02-04-2010, 07:22 PM
I think they have an ebay store. I remember looking for some a short time back. :confused2:


nice, were do you buy them??

Steven Vaccaro
02-04-2010, 07:44 PM
I will have them in a couple of weeks.

m4a1usr
02-04-2010, 08:23 PM
I will have them in a couple of weeks.

Your getting the 120's right Steve, not the 240HV?

John

Steven Vaccaro
02-04-2010, 08:35 PM
Your getting the 120's right Steve, not the 240HV?

John

Both 120's and 240's and all the programing equipment

RIPFENCE
02-04-2010, 10:20 PM
this is great..an alternative to the hydra 240hv..i have a feeling these might fly off the shelf at ose..i know i will be looking at them closely..kidding...hell i would buy one now if i could!

Jeepers
02-04-2010, 11:55 PM
I will have them in a couple of weeks.

sweet! I got sad when westbeach said they might have an Ebay store, I have not bought anything off Ebay in 10 years, and don't plan on it anytime soon!

wolf IV
02-05-2010, 01:17 AM
Can we reserve these steve? If so ill take two of the 240's ;)

Steven Vaccaro
02-05-2010, 07:59 AM
I ordered 10 to start. You can have two if you like.

BakedMopar
02-05-2010, 11:08 AM
What's the price on the 240s and 120s?

Chilli
02-05-2010, 11:21 AM
Put me down for a 120 Steve.

Meniscus
02-05-2010, 02:47 PM
I'm thinking of picking up a 120 + program card.

Steven, when these engage the lipo cutoff, does soft mean it goes to 50% power and hard down to 0%? My real question is, if it hits the lipo cutoff threshold on soft or hard cutoff, will I be able to bring it back to shore?

Also, at what voltage does it cutoff at?

Last question, in the specs you state water-PROOF. Are they going to honor warranty for waterproof? or water-resistant?

RIPFENCE
02-05-2010, 04:04 PM
if we are reserving then i would like the 240hv and a programmer:thumbup1:
put me on the list!:bounce:

wolf IV
02-05-2010, 10:21 PM
I ordered 10 to start. You can have two if you like.

Great Steve, ill put these in the maritimo. Id also like thje programmer. ill pay w/ pp in advanced if you have the prices worked out. thankyou!!!!:banana:

Steven Vaccaro
02-08-2010, 10:00 PM
This should be the pricing.
I wont have a final exact price until I receive them.

Swordfish 90a $70
Swordfish 120a $85
Swordfish 240a HV $259.99
Swordfish 240a HV with logger $289.99 will not be available until the summer.

Program Card $14.00
Handheld program box $26.00
USB Programmer $12.00

When these come in, I will first be offering them to forum users only. With this first round of esc's. Any OSE forum user with more than 10 posts gets a free usb programmer with an esc purchase.

tth
02-08-2010, 10:06 PM
put me in for a hv240

wolf IV
02-08-2010, 11:15 PM
$600.00 for two...dang it!! thats quite a jump from the 120's... IM OUT. sorry....

Diesel6401
02-08-2010, 11:36 PM
This should be the pricing.
I wont have a final exact price until I receive them.

Swordfish 90a $70
Swordfish 120a $85
Swordfish 240a HV $259.99
Swordfish 240a HV with logger $289.99

Program Card $14.00
Handheld program box $26.00
USB Programmer $12.00

When these come in, I will first be offering them to forum users only. With this first round of esc's. Any OSE forum user with more than 10 posts gets a free usb programmer with an esc purchase.


Sweet, I could use the 120a.

bustitup
02-09-2010, 12:10 AM
I will have them in a couple of weeks.

just right for me ....by the time they get here I will take a 240 steven

tsenecal
02-09-2010, 12:22 AM
Steve, put my name on one of the 90 amp models

thanks

Tim

Steven Vaccaro
02-09-2010, 06:56 AM
$600.00 for two...dang it!! thats quite a jump from the 120's... IM OUT. sorry....

Wolf these not not 120's. The 120 is a low voltage esc. The 240's are a HV version.

Steven Vaccaro
02-09-2010, 07:04 AM
Also I just updated the list. The 240hv with logger option will not be available until late spring/early summer.

bustitup
02-09-2010, 09:11 AM
$600.00 for two...dang it!! thats quite a jump from the 120's... IM OUT. sorry....

your kidding right? two 240amp HV esc with programing without beeps and water cooling is CHEAP in comparison

rawsonreyes
02-09-2010, 10:30 AM
hi steven, hope i am at home when you get then, i will pay up front for two 120 and usb prog.i will be back home on 28 feb. :popcorn2: i will contact you for payment info.thank you

bea5017
02-09-2010, 10:48 AM
intrested in two 120a

7500RPM
02-09-2010, 01:00 PM
Interested in two 120 Amp and a program box..

line6
02-09-2010, 03:49 PM
Any word on if there is a 240LV

Steven Vaccaro
02-09-2010, 08:03 PM
No 240lv that I know of.

I have 50 of the 120's coming in. Should be plenty to cover everyone.

wolf IV
02-09-2010, 10:05 PM
your kidding right? Two 240amp hv esc with programing without beeps and water cooling is cheap in comparison

no im not kidding, just mis understood. I was interested in lv's... To compair with hi-models as i run in all my stuff... All the other were lv's so i didnt realize the 240's would be hv's. Not that big a deal.

wolf IV
02-09-2010, 10:06 PM
wolf these not not 120's. The 120 is a low voltage esc. The 240's are a hv version.

got it , thanks steve. Ill be watching for the lv;s... :)

bustitup
02-11-2010, 01:53 PM
Also I just updated the list. The 240hv with logger option will not be available until late spring/early summer.

do you know if the logger will be able to be added to a non logger unit?
and what exactley what does the logger do

Steven Vaccaro
02-11-2010, 01:57 PM
do you know if the logger will be able to be added to a non logger unit?
and what exactley what does the logger do

They are different esc's. i haven't been told much about all the features. but have been told that it logs amps and volts.

sailr
02-11-2010, 06:50 PM
Look at the specs for the KingKong series aircraft esc's. Most likely the same software. They are phenomenal. I was involved in the early testing of these and they are great!


They are different esc's. i haven't been told much about all the features. but have been told that it logs amps and volts.

bustitup
02-12-2010, 10:15 AM
Look at the specs for the KingKong series aircraft esc's. Most likely the same software. They are phenomenal. I was involved in the early testing of these and they are great!
wow its an exact replica of the turnigy monster 200

this swordfish 240 should be a castle killer if it dont die on plugin

sailr
02-12-2010, 10:54 AM
One more time..... TURNIGY doesn't MAKE anything. TURNIGY isn't a factory or a manufacturer It is just the Hobbyking house brand label on others products. Hifei is a very respectable quality ESC manufacturer that Hobbyking buys from and puts their own label on.

Meniscus
02-12-2010, 01:40 PM
One more time..... TURNIGY doesn't MAKE anything. TURNIGY isn't a factory or a manufacturer It is just the Hobbyking house brand label on others products. Hifei is a very respectable quality ESC manufacturer that Hobbyking buys from and puts their own label on.

Consistent, continued clarity, I like it! :thumbup:

Diesel6401
02-15-2010, 01:08 PM
No 240lv that I know of.

I have 50 of the 120's coming in. Should be plenty to cover everyone.

Are these in yet Steve?

Brushless55
02-15-2010, 03:56 PM
I like the 120s!

BakedMopar
02-21-2010, 01:41 PM
Steven you get a better timeline on these guys?

Steven Vaccaro
02-21-2010, 11:21 PM
Asian holiday has them on hold.

oscarel
02-23-2010, 11:09 PM
I'd like to reserve a 120 and a usb programmer if you have any left.

7500RPM
03-10-2010, 02:30 PM
Hi Steven

Any idea when we can expect delivery on the controllers? Thanks!

Himalaya
03-18-2010, 04:47 AM
Still can't find it in OSE Store. im in need of a HV240, a Neu2230 as a combo. Looks like my 7th OSE order is going to be big.

Steven Vaccaro
03-18-2010, 10:51 AM
I recieved confirmation that they are on there way to me. When I have more info I will let you guys know.

RIPFENCE
03-18-2010, 10:10 PM
the suspense is killing me on these things...gimmie a 240hv:banana::thumbup::buttrock:

justintime2w8
03-19-2010, 01:11 AM
Steven, do you know what the burst amp rating is on the 240hv. Two of these may find their way in a 92".

Steven Vaccaro
03-19-2010, 11:55 AM
Steven, do you know what the burst amp rating is on the 240hv. Two of these may find their way in a 92".

Sorry they dont list this info.
I personally run all my esc's at 70-80% of its max rated value. So I personally would run these at 180amps or so continuous.

tth
03-19-2010, 06:51 PM
For the 240HV Swordfish the max surge rating is 280 Amps.

bigpapa
03-20-2010, 08:05 AM
very instread in thease also tks steven...............

tth
03-23-2010, 11:06 PM
Steven I see you added the Swordfish 120 to the New Products line. Will the HV240's be in this shipment that you have coming?

Ub Hauled
03-23-2010, 11:37 PM
Steven I see you added the Swordfish 120 to the New Products line. Will the HV240's be in this shipment that you have coming?

My thoughts exactly...

Steven Vaccaro
03-24-2010, 07:34 AM
Both the 120 and 240hv came in. I'm getting them inventoried today.
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=hef-sword-240hv

ray schrauwen
03-27-2010, 12:14 AM
Since you have them in your hands, have you looked at the inside?

I mean can you see inside whether there are one or two layers of FETS?

Is the cooling plate on top or below Fets?

Just one cooling plate I see.

thanks.

BakedMopar
03-27-2010, 12:30 AM
From what I read the turnigy aquastar is the same esc. I know for sure that the software for those says hifei. If it is there's three plates with the cooling plate inbetween them. They have four caps also. It's huge (120) compared to a hydra.

ray schrauwen
03-27-2010, 01:22 AM
I mean the 240's sorry. Yes the 120's are nice!

Steven Vaccaro
03-27-2010, 01:33 PM
Since you have them in your hands, have you looked at the inside?

I mean can you see inside whether there are one or two layers of FETS?

Is the cooling plate on top or below Fets?

Just one cooling plate I see.

thanks.


I haven't taken a 240 apart. The 120 has two opposing fet boards with a the cooling plate in between.

Himalaya
04-02-2010, 01:58 AM
So do you guys have any feedback/reviews so far? Do the fishes hold up well?

RIPFENCE
04-02-2010, 09:27 AM
Trying a 240hv today..gorgeous day in maine..it will be a good test for it in a 39 mono neu 1527 1250kv 6s lipo we will see

RIPFENCE
04-02-2010, 05:46 PM
So i had the fish out today in my boat and it worked great..no problems to speak of..i have a dual water cooling pickup on my rudder so the fish has its own cooling...it only got to 81 degrees..the water is really cold though...

bustitup
04-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Big motor in a big boat...that's good news
6s 1p or 2p?
How big was the plug in spark?


So i had the fish out today in my boat and it worked great..no problems to speak of..i have a dual water cooling pickup on my rudder so the fish has its own cooling...it only got to 81 degrees..the water is really cold though...

ray schrauwen
04-02-2010, 07:01 PM
Big motor in a big boat...that's good news
6s 1p or 2p?
How big was the plug in spark?

If people are smart they would use a 33 ohm resistor as a spark quencher. I do, I want my Caps and esc's to last.:Peace_Sign:

RIPFENCE
04-02-2010, 08:44 PM
6s1p spark was normal.

Raydee
04-04-2010, 11:39 AM
SO any new word on these 240HV esc's? For the price I am thinking about two of them for my NEU 1527 powered 6s hulls.

Raydee
04-06-2010, 06:15 PM
Anyone?

Steven Vaccaro
04-06-2010, 06:21 PM
There are only about 12 on them out there and only a few have been sold to forum members.

tth
04-11-2010, 10:51 PM
Steven do you have any further info on when the Datalogging 240 will be released?

mappo
04-11-2010, 11:47 PM
Trying a 240hv today..gorgeous day in maine..it will be a good test for it in a 39 mono neu 1527 1250kv 6s lipo we will see

Hey Aaron, what size prop are you using? x452?

Steven Vaccaro
04-12-2010, 06:57 AM
Steven do you have any further info on when the Datalogging 240 will be released?

They said, Late spring or summer.

tth
04-12-2010, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the update

INTERGRATING
04-19-2010, 02:08 PM
Can you guys explain to me what the timing advance and PWM does?
thanks.

m4a1usr
04-19-2010, 11:52 PM
I am surprised no one has answered these questions yet? No one knows?

The PWM switching rate is a function of duty cycle. Meaning that the higher the freq the more "on" time. And probably the best way to describe it is,

Higher frequency = hotter ESC, cooler motor
Lower frequency = cooler ESC, hotter motor

Motor timing is about as basic as it comes. The lower the pole motor, the lower the timing should be. While anyone can argue their 4 pole Neu runs great at 7 or 10 degrees of timing advance its been my experience that heat increases in the motor as advance does. And if you visit the Neu website for recommended settings you will see that "D" windings should be set with a low advance setting, the "Y" windings should see more timing. Like above 10 degrees.

Yet I run a 1521/ 1.5Y in one of my boats and no matter where I set the advance on my speedo I saw no improvement in speed. Just an increase in motor heat with the increase in timing advance. If your speedo has an automatic timing setting. Stick to that one. I dont know if I really answered your questions but if you want me to go technical in description on motor advance its no different is application of your own cars motor. The result is the same.

John

mappo
04-23-2010, 09:09 PM
I am surprised no one has answered these questions yet? No one knows?

The PWM switching rate is a function of duty cycle. Meaning that the higher the freq the more "on" time. And probably the best way to describe it is,

Higher frequency = hotter ESC, cooler motor
Lower frequency = cooler ESC, hotter motor

Motor timing is about as basic as it comes. The lower the pole motor, the lower the timing should be. While anyone can argue their 4 pole Neu runs great at 7 or 10 degrees of timing advance its been my experience that heat increases in the motor as advance does. And if you visit the Neu website for recommended settings you will see that "D" windings should be set with a low advance setting, the "Y" windings should see more timing. Like above 10 degrees.

Yet I run a 1521/ 1.5Y in one of my boats and no matter where I set the advance on my speedo I saw no improvement in speed. Just an increase in motor heat with the increase in timing advance. If your speedo has an automatic timing setting. Stick to that one. I dont know if I really answered your questions but if you want me to go technical in description on motor advance its no different is application of your own cars motor. The result is the same.

John

PWM "pulse width modulation" in Lehman's term is just a modify Fm signal that is used for electric motors instead of the old Rheostat system. where a resistor type control was used.. A Pwm system allows a more efficient way of switching an electrical signal on and off without any loss in power.Rated in Kh . As for settings, a Y motor that has a lower kv rating will handle a higher Rate of switching than a delta motor. a lower pole motor will handle med. to lower switching depending on size of hull and prop. IE. load . similar to the old Brushed system where the motor had timing, depending on application.And the esc did not have any adjustments. Any extreme settings will generate heat so it is a matter of sometimes tinkering with the best settings for your set up

jcald2000
04-25-2010, 05:19 PM
Anyone else who can't get their Swordfish 120 to run the UL-1 motor?
I set the throttle travel per instructions and motor won't start - no beep, tunes nothing.
Program Box has been set and is retaining program. Green led stays on.
Trans on, ESC plug in to receiver, connect main power green light comes on then goes out and motor plays tune then 10 beeps and plays tune then 10 beeps and on and on.
3 hours and nothing, I must be missing the oblivious.

Any help out there?

oscarel
04-25-2010, 05:43 PM
I had the same problem and it was still the throttle end point settings. Hold the throttle full open, plug in power. You will hear 3 beeps then during the next set of beeps, should be 4, move throttle to neutral position. You should now hear 2 beeps and it should be set.

Rumdog
04-25-2010, 06:40 PM
Try holding the throttle to full forward on powering up. Listen for 3 beeps, then release. That is how the hv 240 works,

jcald2000
04-26-2010, 12:40 PM
I have set the th. travel per the instructions more than 6 times yesterday on my Futaba 3PM 2,4 Pistol radio.

oscarel
04-26-2010, 02:47 PM
It's not the transmitter trim you're setting it's the controllers sensing of throttle ends. This is from the 240 manual and assumes you do not have built in BEC. If this doesn't work then something is wrong with the controller I would assume. But again, I had the same problem only beeps, rudder controls I believe worked but throttle didn't. Also check out note1 below

B. Pistol style transmitter calibration
- Keep the switch of ESC in ‘OFF’ position. Correctly connect the ESC with brushless motor and battery
pack, plug the receiver lead of ESC into the throttle channel of receiver;
- Use separate receiver battery or UBEC to power receiver.
- Put the throttle to the forward full position, turn on the transmitter;
- Switch ‘ON’ the ESC, there are 3 beeps emitted from the motor, which indicates all electronics are correctly
power on for the setting.
- Then there are 4 long beeps emitted from the motor ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ .
- Move the throttle stick to the neutral position immediately after any one beep of the 4 long beeps. Two beeps
emitting out indicates calibrating is completed.
- Following two beeps are powering beeps, it is time to go now!
Note: 1)Recommend the ‘0’ position should not be set higher beyond the 50%.
Note: 2) Motor is needed to install for acoustic guide. Meanwhile, please keep the propeller away from human beings or any
objects.

jcald2000
04-26-2010, 05:08 PM
That is exactly what I have done more than 6 times yesterday.
Will start from scratch again tonight.

sailr
04-26-2010, 05:55 PM
You have both a separate receiver battery AND the power battery hooked up?

jcald2000
04-26-2010, 09:00 PM
No, it has BEC. Just main cells hooked up. But just to check I pulled the red wire and hooked up a reciver pack, same thing.

Steve, does Hifi have an error code sheet? I an getting tune, 5 beeps, tune, 10 beeps then repeats.

Steven Vaccaro
04-26-2010, 09:49 PM
Jim I will pm you Michelle's email address Hefei

Tuslow1
04-26-2010, 10:00 PM
I'm ready to start fixing my boats again and I'm really interested in the these esc's so a couple of questions will help me in my choices....
1. Will the 240's go in reverse? My pond has narrow ends and sometimes I need reverse, All I do is saw passes from end to end.
2. When will you have them in stock again?

Steven Vaccaro
04-26-2010, 10:06 PM
I'm ready to start fixing my boats again and I'm really interested in the these esc's so a couple of questions will help me in my choices....
1. Will the 240's go in reverse? My pond has narrow ends and sometimes I need reverse, All I do is saw passes from end to end.
2. When will you have them in stock again?

No reverse. I have more coming in about 2 weeks.

Steven Vaccaro
04-27-2010, 04:34 PM
I will be posting a new software version and new firmware version. The firmware deals with throttle calibration.

I also have an important thing to look for on your esc's!!!
After installing one, I noticed that the water inlets and outlets are not tight and do not have any sealant. Please remove them, and put some silicon on the threads and reinstall them. While you're at it look inside the plate passage to make sure there is not aluminum cuttings inside. Both these issues will be addressed with the next batch. Sorry about this.

BakedMopar
04-27-2010, 05:22 PM
My Turnigy Aquastar labled ones were the same way.

sailr
04-27-2010, 06:59 PM
Steven, you need to tell Zenith to crack some heads!

INTERGRATING
04-28-2010, 09:19 PM
PWM "pulse width modulation" in Lehman's term is just a modify Fm signal that is used for electric motors instead of the old Rheostat system. where a resistor type control was used.. A Pwm system allows a more efficient way of switching an electrical signal on and off without any loss in power.Rated in Kh . As for settings, a Y motor that has a lower kv rating will handle a higher Rate of switching than a delta motor. a lower pole motor will handle med. to lower switching depending on size of hull and prop. IE. load . similar to the old Brushed system where the motor had timing, depending on application.And the esc did not have any adjustments. Any extreme settings will generate heat so it is a matter of sometimes tinkering with the best settings for your set up

So is a 6 pole 2900KV motor considered a high or low pole motor?

mappo
04-29-2010, 02:56 AM
So is a 6 pole 2900KV motor considered a high or low pole motor?

High pole!

drwayne
04-29-2010, 06:20 AM
I have set the th. travel per the instructions more than 6 times yesterday on my Futaba 3PM 2,4 Pistol radio.



Futaba Throttlr is reversed compared most brands.
do a ch-rev and try again.
DocW

jcald2000
04-29-2010, 07:13 AM
Ch. IS reversed, runs my Schultz's just fine, but thanks at this point I'll try anything.

Steven Vaccaro
04-29-2010, 07:53 AM
Ch. IS reversed, runs my Schultz's just fine, but thanks at this point I'll try anything.


Jim what did Michelle say?

drwayne
04-29-2010, 09:14 AM
Jim.. this may help.

The 120 and 240 prefer more than 101% between full/off endpoints.
set throttle fwd=>110%, neutral 0, and bwd anything ( not used in setup/running )

hold th full, engage Tx then Rx, engage esc, 3 tones, wait till midway thru the 4 tone set, then release trigger.. last 2 beeps indicate throttle set.


DrW

jcald2000
04-29-2010, 01:20 PM
Dear Mr. Jim Caldwell,



We newly released a new firmware for Swordfish ESC, please upgrade your Swordfish 120A ESC into the attached latest firmware and try to calibrate the throttle range again.



Very look forward to hearing more from you.



Best regards,

Michelle

Dear Mr. Jim Caldwell,




She sent .rar file which is new software. I can't copy and paste it here. I guess I will have to order the UBS adapter to use it.

drwayne I try the 110% tonight, thanks

jcald2000
04-30-2010, 06:53 AM
Going to 110% works, but now I will have to readjust neutral because I have to hold 10%brake to get it to stop. Now I know why most have autosense for throttle position. LOL

Steven Vaccaro
04-30-2010, 07:09 AM
Dear Mr. Jim Caldwell,



We newly released a new firmware for Swordfish ESC, please upgrade your Swordfish 120A ESC into the attached latest firmware and try to calibrate the throttle range again.



Very look forward to hearing more from you.



Best regards,

Michelle

Dear Mr. Jim Caldwell,




She sent .rar file which is new software. I can't copy and paste it here. I guess I will have to order the UBS adapter to use it.

drwayne I try the 110% tonight, thanks

Jim, I'll send you a usb adapter.

drwayne
04-30-2010, 09:16 AM
Going to 110% works, but now I will have to readjust neutral because I have to hold 10%brake to get it to stop. Now I know why most have autosense for throttle position. LOL


set Th up at 120%
neutral at 0


also Jim, release to neutral carefully, dont let the spring return flick it back else it may pass back to x% rev.. the setting the esc captures.

it needs a software update to correct the throttle point capture.. but this workaround works.

DrW

Krusher
05-25-2010, 12:04 AM
Hello; I originally posted this message in another thread but deleted it because it seems more appropriate here. I am not trying to cross-post or move things around in order to get an answer. I promise. :tongue_smilie:

For those of you who have the Swordfish 120 and have had or still have the SeaKing (or a copy), can you comment on how they compare?

It seems to me that the Swordfish is missing a reverse, but it has quite a few more features such as automatic timing advance and it's upgradeable with a USB connection. So in the future, maybe we'll get reverse.

I've been waiting to see what the Hydra ICE looks like, but the hobby season may be over by the time we actually get one. Hmm.

Krusher
05-27-2010, 01:03 AM
I just bought the Swordfish 120 on Wednesday so I don't need any more info on the SeaKing comparison.

Earlier, m4a1usr recommended that if you have an auto timing setting, which we do, leaving the timing alone. That was my plan.

Has anyone tried a switching frequency on these ESCs other than the default 8kHz? I see we can pick 12 and 16 as well.

I'm going to be running 6S on a Neu 1415/1.5Y (1500kV, 4-pole) if that makes a difference. My goal is not maximum speed, but to keep everything running the coolest.

Thanks.

marcelaw
08-14-2010, 04:40 PM
Steven, having trouble getting 240V Swordfish to accept program from the program card. Have 6.0v pack connected to the two bare power wires on the harness, red/black/white connected according to polarity on back of program card...other end of harness connected to ESC. Leaving ESC off, turning on 6.0v power source and I get the red light on the program card. Then turn on the ESC, get a green light on the bottom of ESC. Press the "transmit" button on program card and nothing happens. No motor or lipos connected to the ESC (assuming I don't need that). The instructions that came with the card say the red light should blink twice when programming complete. Any suggestions?

BTW I checked and my battery pack is delivering right at 6.0v so I don't think that's the problem.

marcelaw
08-15-2010, 12:03 AM
Got it to program, the polarity is flip flopped in the Y harness, causing the card to not program. When I plug the harness into the ESC throttle control backwards, I'm able to get it to program. On the wires, for me that means Brown to White, Red to Red, and Orange to Black.

ray schrauwen
08-15-2010, 05:15 AM
What radio are you using?

keithbradley
08-15-2010, 12:48 PM
Got it to program, the polarity is flip flopped in the Y harness, causing the card to not program. When I plug the harness into the ESC throttle control backwards, I'm able to get it to program. On the wires, for me that means Brown to White, Red to Red, and Orange to Black.

Mine is the same way. If you have a SF240 just pay attention to the wires rather than the plug. I'm not sure if all the plugs are consistantly backwards or if its just some so best bet is to go by the wires.

sailr
08-15-2010, 02:51 PM
Are you saying the socket in the program card is wired backwards? Or do they provide you with a Y-harness that's backwards?

keithbradley
08-15-2010, 03:04 PM
Are you saying the socket in the program card is wired backwards? Or do they provide you with a Y-harness that's backwards?

Its the y-harness. I plug the esc into my receiver as I would any other esc.

sailr
08-15-2010, 03:09 PM
I see. I don't have one of their esc's so I guess they send you a Y harness with it? I've always plugged the esc directly into the program card on all the other brands. No need to have it plugged into the receiver usually. I guess the Swordfish is different.

jcald2000
08-15-2010, 07:04 PM
Solved my problem above, the 12 year old Schultz took out a phase in the UL1 motor when it failed. Changed motor and ran it today all's well!!

Jeff
08-15-2010, 07:31 PM
I think you have that reversed. When the motor failed it took out the schultz.

keithbradley
08-15-2010, 08:40 PM
I may not have worded that clearly. There is no need to use a receiver to program it, I just meant the plug on the esc is wired correctly.When I put it in the boat and run it, I dont plug it into the esc upside down.

keithbradley
08-27-2010, 09:19 PM
I just bought the standalone programmer for the SF ESC's. It works great on my 120, but I cant get it to work on the 240. It shows a y-harness in the directions like the one that comes with th eusb link, except it has an extra set of wires for teh rx pack to plug into...so it's a total of 4 sets of wires instead of 3 like teh usb link version.

How do you get this to work? Steve do you sell a harness for this?

Steven Vaccaro
08-27-2010, 10:02 PM
I just bought the standalone programmer for the SF ESC's. It works great on my 120, but I cant get it to work on the 240. It shows a y-harness in the directions like the one that comes with th eusb link, except it has an extra set of wires for teh rx pack to plug into...so it's a total of 4 sets of wires instead of 3 like teh usb link version.

How do you get this to work? Steve do you sell a harness for this?

Keith I'm a bit confused. There isnt a separate harness. We might have to contact Hifei about this.

keithbradley
08-27-2010, 10:28 PM
I got it to work with the y-harness from my usb linker. (It does show a harness like I described in the instructions, but I guess its not needed after all)

On your site it says to use a 4AA rx pack, so I tried one instead of the nimh 5 cell rx pack I was trying to use with it, and it worked. I checked and double checked the wires on the rx pack and esc...maybe it's just possible the two pin connector on the 4AA style packs makes better connection with the programmer?
I suppose it's also possible that I turned the ESC on AFTER I plugged it in when I tried it before. I noticed even when using the 4AA pack if I plug it in and then turn the ESC on, nothing happens. It has to be on when you plug in the battery.

drwayne
08-27-2010, 10:56 PM
Controller on 240HV have a 4.5-5.5V tolerance.. outside that range and it will not function... eg 5 cells wont work.

The SF240HV has no BEC..
The programmer gains power with 3plug wiring harness from BEC enabled ESCs.. it needs external power for the SF240HV... thus the 4 connector lead

Assume you plugged 4cells direct to programmer somehow to achieve successful program with 3 plug leads... ??

details ?

W




I got it to work with the y-harness from my usb linker. (It does show a harness like I described in the instructions, but I guess its not needed after all)

On your site it says to use a 4AA rx pack, so I tried one instead of the nimh 5 cell rx pack I was trying to use with it, and it worked. I checked and double checked the wires on the rx pack and esc...maybe it's just possible the two pin connector on the 4AA style packs makes better connection with the programmer?
I suppose it's also possible that I turned the ESC on AFTER I plugged it in when I tried it before. I noticed even when using the 4AA pack if I plug it in and then turn the ESC on, nothing happens. It has to be on when you plug in the battery.

keithbradley
08-27-2010, 11:03 PM
You got it.
I used the y harness from the usb linker, hooking it up the same way I would if using the usb plug only plugged that end into the programmer... then plugged the rx pack into the power port on the programmer. Worked perfectly.

drwayne
08-27-2010, 11:08 PM
If you had used the 4plug lead with 4cells attached it should have worked.
Ive noticed a lack of QC regarding wire allocation to polarized plugs.
Meaning.. the plugs when mated have different color wires joining !
hafta watch these color blind assemblers !
W


You got it.
I used the y harness from the usb linker, hooking it up the same way I would if using the usb plug only plugged that end into the programmer... then plugged the rx pack into the power port on the programmer. Worked perfectly.

keithbradley
09-04-2010, 09:52 PM
Steve is there any replacement discount or anything on these if they go bad? I just fried my SF 120 today. It worked great, but unfortunately I sub'ed my boat and it filled with water. When I brought it up, the esc had shorted and I now have a stinky boat:doh:

It worked great and its totally my fault for getting it wet...just thought I would check and see if there is an exchange discount or anything:confused2:

Steven Vaccaro
09-05-2010, 08:26 AM
Steve is there any replacement discount or anything on these if they go bad? I just fried my SF 120 today. It worked great, but unfortunately I sub'ed my boat and it filled with water. When I brought it up, the esc had shorted and I now have a stinky boat:doh:

It worked great and its totally my fault for getting it wet...just thought I would check and see if there is an exchange discount or anything:confused2:

There isnt an exchange discount. But they to warranty them or repair them for a cost. Send me a email and I will send you the return info.

K.R.Joye
09-07-2010, 03:00 PM
Hey STEVEN borrowed Norms Swordfish 240 last weekend to run in my 70+mph 10S1P X-Era O/R powered 44"Open Hydro a London Canada IMPBA race. It was so easy to run no programing`plug and play' always came in around 130 degree range after 7 laps on 1/6 mile course. Very impressed with smooth thorottle response and overall control at factory auto settings. Great controller for the money!:rockon2:

Steven Vaccaro
09-07-2010, 03:18 PM
Hey STEVEN borrowed Norms Swordfish 240 last weekend to run in my 70+mph 10S1P X-Era O/R powered 44"Open Hydro a London Canada IMPBA race. It was so easy to run no programing`plug and play' always came in around 130 degree range after 7 laps on 1/6 mile course. Very impressed with smooth thorottle response and overall control at factory auto settings. Great controller for the money!:rockon2:

Glad you liked it Ken. I have had great luck with them.

The Swordfish 120 has been outstanding.
My son and I beat the hell out of a 120 this weekend in his n2 mono.
He was draining a 6500 hyperion 35c pack to 5% in 170-180 seconds. Right at the rating on that esc and it went as smooth as silk. Previously we had only been able to run a Hydra 240 on that setup.

ray schrauwen
09-07-2010, 04:01 PM
Yee haa, sounds like a keeper!!

Doby
09-07-2010, 06:53 PM
Hey STEVEN borrowed Norms Swordfish 240 last weekend to run in my 70+mph 10S1P X-Era O/R powered 44"Open Hydro a London Canada IMPBA race. It was so easy to run no programing`plug and play' always came in around 130 degree range after 7 laps on 1/6 mile course. Very impressed with smooth thorottle response and overall control at factory auto settings. Great controller for the money!:rockon2:

Good running boat and based on my "touch test"...quite a cool running controller :beerchug:

keithbradley
09-07-2010, 07:00 PM
There isnt an exchange discount. But they to warranty them or repair them for a cost. Send me a email and I will send you the return info.

Your PM box was full but I sent a message through the store site. Thanks for your help.

AustriaAT
09-08-2010, 01:36 PM
Hello

an easy question can I program the 240 HV with these card:
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10333&Product_Name=Turnigy_Monster-2000_ESC_programming_card__

Thanks Albert

Steven Vaccaro
09-08-2010, 01:48 PM
Hello

an easy question can I program the 240 HV with these card:
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10333&Product_Name=Turnigy_Monster-2000_ESC_programming_card__

Thanks Albert

It looks quite different than the Hifei model.

AustriaAT
09-08-2010, 01:58 PM
Hm

they write: Compatible with Super-Brain and Monster ESCs.
And at HK the 240HV is listed as an Aquastar Monster.

Please help.

Thanks Albert

Steven Vaccaro
09-08-2010, 02:18 PM
Hm

they write: Compatible with Super-Brain and Monster ESCs.
And at HK the 240HV is listed as an Aquastar Monster.

Please help.

Thanks Albert

Seems like you should give it a shot. Let us know how it goes?

sailr
09-08-2010, 03:33 PM
That is a Hifei aircraft controller card. Not sure if it will work with their marine esc's or not.


Hello

an easy question can I program the 240 HV with these card:
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10333&Product_Name=Turnigy_Monster-2000_ESC_programming_card__

Thanks Albert

drwayne
09-08-2010, 07:22 PM
That card is for the HiFei(Turnigy) Monster2000, the Aero precursor to our new HiFei Swordfish (Turnigy Aquastar) series :)

Communication interface between card and board are different.... latch sequencing does not match. :Shame_on_You:

Use at own peril ! .. ( avoid inhaling the toxic smoke )

This link shows the HC (Turnigy) equivalent for Aquastar... l a relabeled HiFei !!

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10945&Product_Name=Turnigy_Program_Box_for_Aqua-Star_and_Super-Brain_



Hello

an easy question can I program the 240 HV with these card:
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=10333&Product_Name=Turnigy_Monster-2000_ESC_programming_card__

Thanks Albert

keithbradley
10-03-2010, 08:26 PM
There isnt an exchange discount. But they to warranty them or repair them for a cost. Send me a email and I will send you the return info.

Thanks for taking care of me on this Steven. Your customer service is second to none. I am glad I have found such a well ran business to spend my money at.:bowdown:

bill34207
01-02-2011, 09:20 AM
Anyone ran into a snag with the 120 going into lvc? I ordered one for a LSO powering a SV27R motor (overkill I know) and tried it for the 1st time yesterday.
It would run about 50-100 feet then fall on it's face. Release the trigger, pull again and it would travel another 50-100 feet and do the same thing.
Timing was at auto, lvc set to soft and 12v for 4s as programmed by the pc program. Default on all other settings. Packs were 2 fully charged 4s 5000 ma hooked up as a 4s 2p setup. After getting it back to shore (just a few trigger pulls away) peeled the tape and everything was cool so it wasn't a thermal shutdown.
I have two of the 240 HV's that are working fine in 10s boats.
I'm confused. :confused1:

PS: I forgot to mention that I did throttle endpoint calibration as suggested by the manual. Also if anyone has run into this and has an easy cure would love to hear it. That way I don't have to send it back to Steve.

blackcat26
01-02-2011, 12:32 PM
Bill is 12v the proper setting for 4s? The nominal voltage for 4s is 14.8 and fully charged is 16.8. Maybe that has something to do with it???

oscarel
01-02-2011, 12:39 PM
12V would be 3V per cell which is what's shown in the manual for 4s. Do you have a recorder to show what the voltage is when it's cutting out? Do you have another set of batteries to try?

bill34207
01-02-2011, 12:49 PM
You are both absolutely correct. Not sure why the compter program reads them that way. It calls 4s at 12 volts, 5 @ 15 etc which is only 3 v per cell. I plugged it back in to the programmer earlier (to make sure nothing had changed from the setup). It was all still the same but did find an "auto" lvc setting available in it and going to give that a try as soon as I can get it back to the water.
Unless, that is, I hear from Steven that I should just send it back.

bill34207
01-02-2011, 12:51 PM
12V would be 3V per cell which is what's shown in the manual for 4s. Do you have a recorder to show what the voltage is when it's cutting out? Do you have another set of batteries to try?

Actually I did try 2 different set of batteries. Same result along with smaller props.
No on board equipment to check voltages though.

oscarel
01-02-2011, 01:02 PM
Last thing I can think of would be to recheck solder connections on esc.

racer66
01-02-2011, 01:45 PM
I am working on building a DF 29. Have the Speedmaster 21 hardware. Peter Z. mount. Want to power it with a 540 9XL and a Swordfish 200. Want to run it with 2 Turnigy 5000 mah 2C 30C packs. I need a power card for the SW. Is it easy to set up the ESC? Will this boat fly with this set up? I know of the 180, but like the slimness of the SW. Will mount the ESC on top of my Peter Z. mount.

ESC 5.5 to motor and 8's for the batteries. My batteries have the 5.5 do I need to switch to 8s?

ray schrauwen
01-02-2011, 02:45 PM
If you use good quality 5.5's you are fine, if you use the OSE versions, Castle or AM-1005 Hobby King (not the other ones they have) you should be fine.

I bought some of the other Hobby King 5.5's and they are so bad that I would barely use them on chargers.

8mm plugs would be fine too but, I don't know if you really need it since your batts can only deliver 150 amps continuous.

sailr
01-02-2011, 05:01 PM
I have found with aircraft esc's made by Heifei that the auto setting for lvc works best. Might be the case with the swordfish as well.

sailr
01-02-2011, 05:03 PM
Bill, does the swordfish esc have a setting anywhere that says "insensitivity"? I know on my heifei aircraft controllers there is such a setting. If you don't use that, the lvc is really too touchy!

bill34207
01-02-2011, 05:20 PM
Bill, does the swordfish esc have a setting anywhere that says "insensitivity"? I know on my heifei aircraft controllers there is such a setting. If you don't use that, the lvc is really too touchy!

I'll have to plug it in again and look. I was actually looking for a "disable" setting when I found the auto. :bounce:

teamchrome
01-02-2011, 05:30 PM
Running a leo 4082 with a Swordfish 200 in my Geico.
Nice and cool and runs great.

teamchrome
01-03-2011, 10:03 PM
What is the warranty on these?
Second run and it went POOF!!!!!!
First run was never warm ran great the water is ice cold.
Second run and it stoped and the pop.. pop.. pop.. smoke and pop. pop. smoke again.
Motor, bateries, radio, and everything is fine but the ESC poped all the caps and melted comlpetleymy entire inside is sticky and smelly.
How do I get rid of the smell?

ray schrauwen
01-03-2011, 10:11 PM
Eagle One all wheel cleaner, spray in, scrub a little and wash out in the shower. It will not smell and should come completely clean. Rinse well all residue with hot water.

http://www.eagleone.com/pages/products/product.asp?itemid=1003

At any car parts store & Walmart I think.

teamchrome
01-03-2011, 10:12 PM
Ill try that, Thank you.
Anything to get rid of that smell.
Its like a burnt clutch.

Rumdog
01-03-2011, 10:49 PM
Which esc, and what boat and setup?

teamchrome
01-03-2011, 11:01 PM
Which esc, and what boat and setup?

Swordfish 200 in a Miss G.
Leo 4082, and a x 642 prop on 6s, no BEC set up with program card.
Geat runs the first time out. I ran 4 sets of batteries.
Today I ran for about 30 seconds.
No changes to the boat from the first day.

teamchrome
01-03-2011, 11:02 PM
There was one change.. I put on the off set rudder set-up from Kentec.

NORMKRIS
01-04-2011, 07:53 AM
[QUOTE=teamchrome;268486] I ran 4 sets of batteries.

Did you add any additional "caps". I suspect your total battery lead length from
esc. was probably to long. Refer to the Schulze Electronics website for recommendation/explanation. Caps on Swordfish are quite small. Also how were the 4 packs wired....you indicated a 6s configuration?

Norm Kris Sr.

DISAR
01-04-2011, 10:35 AM
I had a 120 swordfish which failed on 6s, not burnt or melted just dead (suddenly stopped, using external battery pack). I would suggest running them on 5s max.

oscarel
01-04-2011, 11:20 AM
Vinegar and hot water or "goof off" will get rid of the smell and burnt residue.

bill34207
01-07-2011, 06:37 AM
Just as an update on what I was running into. Changing the LVC cutoff method to auto fixed my esc problem. Unfortunately the SV27 motor I was running it on cooked about a minute later. ESC is still good since I plugged it into another motor after getting home and it worked fine.
The motor is a different story. :ThumbsDown01:

sailr
01-07-2011, 08:36 AM
Where did you have the timing set for the SV27 motor?

bill34207
01-07-2011, 08:45 AM
I left it at auto (default)

sailr
01-07-2011, 09:14 AM
that should be OK. How about the PWM?

bill34207
01-07-2011, 09:24 AM
It was also left at default. Think it was like 8hz or something along that line which should have been fine for an inrunner.
The only things I changed from default settings was the cutoff method and switched it from hard to soft and the LVC voltage to auto after the 4s setting didn't work.
I think I just got a bad motor. In reality the SV27 and UL-1 motors are nothing but glorified Great Planes Ammo motors (and I've had a FEW of those and the Rimfire outrunners go bad in planes over the years). Good side is that Tower is about zero hassle for getting a warranty replacement.
I could stick my Neu 1415/1Y in it but then it wouldn't be legal for our LSO class.

millzee
04-10-2011, 02:54 AM
I'm just trying to recalibrate my sf240hv and I'm following the book on how it's done although the esc keeps going into program mode, the bell's just keep ringing. The book say's to "hold full throttle and turn on esc, there are 3 beeps indicating correctly powered for the setting, then there are 4 long beeps, then I'm suppose to move the throttle to neutral and 2 beeps are suppose to follow indicating the calibration is complete. I seem to just have it starting with 4 beeps and entering the program mode, could this be bacause I've changed the LVC settings from auto to 6's. I only did a recalibration last week without any troubles and after doing that I reprogrammed the esc to increase the timing and set the LVC to 6s. Has anyone else had this trouble?:help:

drwayne
04-10-2011, 04:00 AM
Grab the USB and reset to default, then start again

btw.. what version code ?
1, 2, or 3 ?
W

millzee
04-10-2011, 04:21 AM
Grab the USB and reset to default, then start again

btw.. what version code ?
1, 2, or 3 ?
W

Mate, I proved my dumbass abilities the other day when plugging into the computer when I wasn't thinking and plugged the rx battery in along with the usb, I only noticed when it wouldn't read the usb drive and a pop up on my computer said there was a malfuntion. I might try hooking it up again tonight but I think I killed the USB stick, it got a tad warm. I'm not sure which version code? I havn't upgraded it from when I got it. This afternoon I plugged the program board up and made sure I hadn't changed any settings and then tried it out with the DX3S throttle travel at 150% and it seemed to really be ballsy, a lot more than ever, can I over do the travel, should I maybe play around and start with smaller trials, eg. 120%-130%? When trying the 150% dry in the boat, I did notice things got a little warm in just a few pumps of the throttle.

drwayne
04-10-2011, 04:34 AM
A: If you put usb to esc, and Rx batt to esc, no probs.
B: If you put usb to esc, and Rx Batt to usb.. the usb would by default try to charge the rx Batt 5V@150mA
regarding B: If the Rx batt is >5V, chances are the usb may have laid a turd ( browned out ).
W

drwayne
04-10-2011, 04:42 AM
Mate, This afternoon I plugged the program board up and made sure I hadn't changed any settings and then tried it out with the DX3S throttle travel at 150% and it seemed to really be ballsy, a lot more than ever, can I over do the travel, should I maybe play around and start with smaller trials, eg. 120%-130%? When trying the 150% dry in the boat, I did notice things got a little warm in just a few pumps of the throttle.

Whatever you set as wot on Tx, the script will see as 100% travel.
If you try to be smart and hold Th at 80% when setting wot point.. then go to 100% on water.. anything over calibrated end point is seen as end point.. no advantage there.
Test the Bl systems as you would your 1:1 car.. dont go wot for more than a micro second else it could all turn to brown smoke.

if it got hot ibn a few micro spurts,, what's wrong with your setup ?

sent pm also
W

bill34207
04-10-2011, 06:02 AM
I'm just trying to recalibrate my sf240hv and I'm following the book on how it's done although the esc keeps going into program mode, the bell's just keep ringing. The book say's to "hold full throttle and turn on esc, there are 3 beeps indicating correctly powered for the setting, then there are 4 long beeps, then I'm suppose to move the throttle to neutral and 2 beeps are suppose to follow indicating the calibration is complete. I seem to just have it starting with 4 beeps and entering the program mode, could this be bacause I've changed the LVC settings from auto to 6's. I only did a recalibration last week without any troubles and after doing that I reprogrammed the esc to increase the timing and set the LVC to 6s. Has anyone else had this trouble?:help:

If you're trying to calibrate throttle end points you're letting it beep too many times and entering program mode.
Hold trigger to full, switch on the esc. After 1 beep release the trigger back to neutral and it will beep again. End point calibration is complete.

millzee
04-10-2011, 07:03 AM
If you're trying to calibrate throttle end points you're letting it beep too many times and entering program mode.
Hold trigger to full, switch on the esc. After 1 beep release the trigger back to neutral and it will beep again. End point calibration is complete.

thanks mate, I 'll give it a go

millzee
04-10-2011, 07:05 AM
Whatever you set as wot on Tx, the script will see as 100% travel.
If you try to be smart and hold Th at 80% when setting wot point.. then go to 100% on water.. anything over calibrated end point is seen as end point.. no advantage there.
Test the Bl systems as you would your 1:1 car.. dont go wot for more than a micro second else it could all turn to brown smoke.

if it got hot ibn a few micro spurts,, what's wrong with your setup ?

sent pm also
W

Thanks mate, I really appreciate the help given.:thumbup::beerchug:

sailr
05-25-2011, 03:31 PM
Never got hold of her. I don't believe I ever got her email from you in my PM's. I used to have her email but lost it when one of my past computers died.

Could you send again please?




Jim what did Michelle say?

clarkm
04-16-2012, 08:07 AM
I too have been having trouble with throttle setting, the instructions say when you get a red light you have full throttle am I reading this right and what red light?

drwayne
04-16-2012, 08:28 AM
What cells, motor etc ?
What Tx/Rx ?

W

clarkm
04-16-2012, 01:05 PM
tx/rx, motor all stock with UL-1 hydro, lipo's venom 2s, 7.4v 5000mah 50c.

I never know if I'm getting full throttle, were should the trim be when I set it...the instructions say "When running at the calibrated max throttle, the red led on esc wil be blinking to indicate the esc is giving max throttle." There's a red light on esc?

drwayne
04-16-2012, 08:53 PM
tx/rx, motor all stock with UL-1 hydro, lipo's venom 2s, 7.4v 5000mah 50c.

I never know if I'm getting full throttle, were should the trim be when I set it...the instructions say "When running at the calibrated max throttle, the red led on esc wil be blinking to indicate the esc is giving max throttle." There's a red light on esc?
What model esc ? That red led sounds T180 !

Chrisg81983
04-17-2012, 12:47 AM
There is a tiny red light on bottom of 240 took a while to find as it was not reaching 100% throttle Michelle from Hifei told me to raise endpoints and there it was

clarkm
04-17-2012, 07:45 AM
What model esc ? That red led sounds T180 !

I have the 120a model, do you know were the throttle trim should be when setting the range?

drwayne
04-17-2012, 08:38 AM
Set both fwd and rev at 100%
Is your Rc spektrum ?
if so you need to use this procedure to set the throttle ranges
Turn all on... let it bind.. turnit off.
within a minute .. hold th 100% on trigger, powerup esc and rx..
There's a delay with spektrum if not bound recently which is known to limit Th range.
After this 2nd powerup the esc will 'play' a quick set of tunes from motor, pause, then play 2...2...2...2
Somewhere in middle those 2...2...2...2 you should release Th back to neutral

hope this helps.
If not.. keep asking !

W

Chrisg81983
04-17-2012, 09:31 AM
Do exactly as w said as spectrum was the only rx that was limiting my throttle range but if that don't work mine worked at 114 THIS IS FOR SPECTRUM ONLY AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOURS all you half to do is power up system give full throttle for a short millisecond if light does not turn on raise endpoint and repeat step one and so on I like to use a low cell count batt this way motor does not rev at too high of rpm while the endpoints will not change I use a 4 s wit a 910 kv

clarkm
04-17-2012, 04:29 PM
Thanks guys it's great to have a forum to learn these things I'l let you know how I make out but I don't think my Swordfish 120 has the LED light?

Chrisg81983
04-18-2012, 12:51 AM
I will look at my 120 and let you know I will get back to you

Steven Vaccaro
04-18-2012, 07:26 PM
Not to complicate things, but there is another "swordfish 120" out there that isnt the swordfish 120 thats sold by Hifei. Just so we are all talking about the same esc.

kingwrench
08-14-2012, 09:01 AM
Just received my sordfish 300A controllers. They are huge, larger than I expected in physical size but heavy duty. 8ga wire. should splash this girl tomorrow and se how she works. Running NUE 2215 2.5 y motors 12S2P.

jcald2000
12-13-2012, 05:33 AM
Well, King how did they work out for you???

ray schrauwen
12-13-2012, 08:01 AM
Not to complicate things, but there is another "swordfish 120" out there that isnt the swordfish 120 thats sold by Hifei. Just so we are all talking about the same esc.

This is the Swordfish esc NOT made by Hifei. Runs nicely but, not nearly as robust as the Hifei.

kingwrench
12-13-2012, 08:36 AM
Well, King how did they work out for you??? They worked out well, never get hot and no issues. Would be my choice again in high amp applications. I ran the boat in our shootout and made a few 90+mph passes. The best speed to date is 110mph. This thing flys she has so much torque. She "Current Problem" has so much left in her.
Lance

launchpad
11-13-2013, 11:07 PM
I was looking for some info on the swordfish esc and I finally found this site that actually show what it looked like.Apparently there is one with the Hefei name and then there is one under Skyrc in China.Now I have find where I can a couple of 120's.Any suggestions out there...........

drwayne
11-14-2013, 12:17 AM
HIFEI are the original, skyrc have taken the swordfish name and sold their own under that label.
Avoid the skyrc brand.

launchpad
11-14-2013, 11:58 AM
HIFEI are the original, skyrc have taken the swordfish name and sold their own under that label.
Avoid the skyrc brand.

Thanks for the heads up.In the forum someone from the company stated that Hefei is not an original.he stated that Swordfish has there own label and esc.In my search I found a place that has the original one.
Kind of confusing when there is two or there swordfish esc out there.
Thanks for the info.

sailr
11-14-2013, 04:16 PM
No matter what anybody else tells you, HIFEI IS the manufacturer of the original Swordfish controllers. I know the owner and do business with them!

drwayne
11-14-2013, 04:18 PM
Im sure the original owner of the name Swordfish is a rather big fish.. all since just plagiarize it :smile:
HIFEI are my preferred manufacturer of esc these past 6 years.
SKYRC do a reasonable job, but not the same quality nor support as hifei.
jm2cw.
cheers
W

launchpad
11-15-2013, 06:24 PM
Im sure the original owner of the name Swordfish is a rather big fish.. all since just plagiarize it :smile:
HIFEI are my preferred manufacturer of esc these past 6 years.
SKYRC do a reasonable job, but not the same quality nor support as hifei.
jm2cw.
cheers
W

Thanks for clearing this up.The reason I ? is there is a blog in ose about that.
Someone there stated that.Still kind of a green horn here.

Gary
06-23-2014, 10:18 AM
This is the Swordfish esc NOT made by Hifei. Runs nicely but, not nearly as robust as the Hifei.

I just purchased this controller and although it works it does not go to full throttle...more like 75% and that's it. Tried everything and no go.

R.J.S
06-24-2014, 04:08 PM
Sorry Steve,but just so everyone knows,are the swordfish esc's sold by OSE Hefei or Skyrc?

Seems like there are a lot of problems getting them calibrated.A Chinese to English translation issue with the instuctions?

Steven Vaccaro
06-24-2014, 04:51 PM
Skyrc and Hifei are different companies. The ones I sell are made by Hifei. You will find their name all over the website.
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/search.php?pg=1&stext=hef-&sprice=&stype=&scat=&sman=&x=0&y=0


Most people don't realize there are instructions on the disk. once they read them their problems are normally solved.

Chrisg81983
06-24-2014, 05:51 PM
The only problem that's not explained in their instructions is when there is a problem downloading the data logging files. Some computers will reject the file due to security settings. There are a few ways to solve this but none are mentioned in hifei's instructions.

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Savage Skidoo
06-27-2014, 08:55 AM
Mine loaded ok , i have the 200hv 12s , it has been sent back too China , i got one run in and was purchased from KBB , it just stopped working no bad smells , i hooked it too the linker and there is no communication between the two . I will let you know how i make out from Hifei .

srislash
06-27-2014, 09:03 AM
i hooked it too the linker and there is no communication between the two . I will let you know how i make out from Hifei .

This has been my problem all along with these guys.