Renegade

['83 chevy]

I have finally started my new project. A brushless micro rigger boat. Its made from Depron(foam) and 1/64" plywood. Total RTR weight will be a little under 13 oz and is capable of 50 MPH. It can be purchased from here http://www.bizingo.com/m/renegade%20riggers/
Here are some specs
400 outrunner
Castle Phoenix 25 Esc
3 cell Lipo
Hitec Hs55 servo
full Octura Hardware
heres my progress so far
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1182.jpg
Will end up looking like this when finished
http://www.bizingo.com/m/Renegade%20Riggers/images/F8AD76A7_44A0_4EEE_91B5_A70534CF4812.JPG
and heres a vid
http://media.putfile.com/Renegade-rough-water-mods
I'm hoping to have it running by the weekend. So what do ya think so far?

[adreher]

looks good, keep the pics coming!

[Diegoboy]

Will end up looking like this when finished
http://www.bizingo.com/m/Renegade%20Riggers/images/F8AD76A7_44A0_4EEE_91B5_A70534CF4812.JPG


Hey... That's my boat! lol:D

['83 chevy]

I got a lot more done today than I thought I would. Finished the hardware install, mocked up the electronics, and finished both sponsons.She will be done tomorrow, I'm hoping to have it painted my then too. But I've been busy getting our truck ready for Fridays Truck pulls.
here are some pics
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1186.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1188.jpg

[Diegoboy]

She looks great. Are you sure that was your first one?

['83 chevy]

She looks great. Are you sure that was your first one?

Thanks, and yep its my first wooden boat. Not sure on color though, thinking maybe green tub with black sponsons. Any ideas on graphics?

[Diegoboy]

Be sure to bring the video camera & someone to film it on her maiden voyage.;)

[Diegoboy]

Thanks, and yep its my first wooden boat. Not sure on color though, thinking maybe green tub with black sponsons. Any ideas on graphics?

...ya!
How 'bout Blue & Yellow, with This (http://www.diegoboy.com/images/afcwestchamp.jpg) theme.
I'll be PERFECT!

['83 chevy]

No offense but I'm not a football type of guy;) :D

[Diegoboy]

It's okay. Can't blame me for trying. lol
I just think the fact that it's electric, with the lightning bolts, ya know...

['83 chevy]

I'm thinking something like this
http://www.fountainpowerboats.com/technology/images/gr_sb_lightbolt_img.gif

['83 chevy]

Well here she is, she's ready to hit the water(hoping to go tomorrow). I still need to do some minor finishing things. For my first wood boat I'm very happy at the way it came out.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1194.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1196.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1197.jpg

[Diegoboy]

Wow! She looks good.
Congratulations on your first build. I'm sure you'll enjoy it!:D

[SJFE]

I think I may bust out the plans I have in the closet for the Yellow jacket rigger this fall :).

['83 chevy]

Thanks Diegoboy. I ran her today for about 5 minutes before the chop became too much. I am very happy with it. I need to level the strut out a little, the stern keeps trying to come out of the water completely.

[ace028]

Man that looks nice, can't wait to finish mine. does the pheniox controller work with a pistol grip radio? I couldn't wait for the hardware or esc and glued the top together, hope that wasn't a mistake lol. I just wanted to build it.

[Diegoboy]

does the pheniox controller work with a pistol grip radio?


Yes. I run mine with a JR pistol radio, no issues.



I couldn't wait for the hardware or esc and glued the top together, hope that wasn't a mistake lol. I just wanted to build it.


It should be okay. just a little tighter when accessing the transom.

[ace028]

Yes. I run mine with a JR pistol radio, no issues.



It should be okay. just a little tighter when accessing the transom.

K, do you think that the mamba 25 would be a ok speed controler? Or should I just run a phenoix? I think I could find the mamba cheaper.

['83 chevy]

The only difference between the Mamba and the Phoenix is that the mamba has reverse.

[ace028]

The only difference between the Mamba and the Phoenix is that the mamba has reverse.

Ok, I think I might get the mamba 25 because my luck I will get it stuck in the weeds and could use reverse to get me out. I'll post some pics later of my progress

[rhinopole]

Mamba 25 did not work with my 400df. I was told that the switching rate was to slow...

['83 chevy]

Ok, I think I might get the mamba 25 because my luck I will get it stuck in the weeds and could use reverse to get me out.

I wouldn't try reversing with this boat, the stern sits very low in the water as it is, never mind adding the water that will come splashing over it when you reverse.

[ace028]

I wouldn't try reversing with this boat, the stern sits very low in the water as it is, never mind adding the water that will come splashing over it when you reverse.

You got a point there, well I guess I'll just go for the pheniox.

['83 chevy]

Ya the Phoenix is very nice, set-up was a pain at first but once I figured it out it worked mint.

['83 chevy]

I got bored so I made a boat stand, out of some scrap 1/8" balsa. It Looks ok, needs a coat of paint. Its nothing special but it will work.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1239.jpg

I'm really wanting to build a nice PVC setup for all of my boats, but we'll see

[Diegoboy]

Could you post a pic of the boat on the stand?

['83 chevy]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1240.jpg

[ace028]

Ok here is my progress on my rigger. Just got to finish up the sponsons and glue them to the rigger and do some finish sanding and paint it.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/ace028/P1010008.jpg

[Diegoboy]

Nice work. :)

['83 chevy]

Very nice. keep it up

[ace028]

Thanks, I finished the sponsons last night, just have to check all the joints and finish sand and prep for paint. Not sure what color to paint tho.

['83 chevy]

One thing I just noticed on yours, flip the motor mounting screws around. Otherwise they will interfere when you try to put in the battery.

[Diegoboy]

Good call. I didn't see that. :cool:

[yz120]

what is the overall lenght and width of this rigger?
wondering if it could run on with nimh batts.

['83 chevy]

Total length from bullet nut tip to sponson tip is 15 3/4" and the width is 9"

I took her for a rip today but I wont elaborate on that, I'd rather forget that run.

[dirtysouth31]

[QUOTE
wondering if it could run on with nimh batts.[/QUOTE]

answer is no way!!when pigs fly..just kidding but no.if you was to see one up close you would know why

['83 chevy]

yep dirty's right, heres a size refernece
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1242.jpg

[ace028]

One thing I just noticed on yours, flip the motor mounting screws around. Otherwise they will interfere when you try to put in the battery.


K thanks. Glad to hear that before I finished and charged my battery and was ready to go and realize that lol. It might be a few weeks before I can buy the hardware and finish it. OSE is out of stock anyways on the hardware kit, and I got to keep the wife happy, she don't like what this hobby does to the bank account lol

[ace028]

Yes. I run mine with a JR pistol radio, no issues.



It should be okay. just a little tighter when accessing the transom.

quick ques, do you have to have the Pistix for the pheonix? Just want to make sure that the esc is all I need before I buy it.

['83 chevy]

I set mine up without it, it was a pain at first getting the trim setting right, but its easy after that.

[ace028]

Ok, also what servo works good, I see that a hitec hs-55 works but am not familiar with that servo. I want one that will center good, I had a rc18t mini truck and the mini servo wouldn't return to center, it was always off.

[Diegoboy]

Mine has the S241 Sub-Mirco Servo. I'd also consider the e-flite S75 sub-micro servo too.

[ace028]

Ok, I think that I will try the eflite one.

[ace028]

Just bought the e-flite s75 sub-micro servo $13.99 shipped from rcsuperstore on ebay. Does anyone know when the hardware kits are going to be available from OSE?

Here is a updated pic of my progress, still havent fixed the motor screws yet lol. Kind of waiting for the hardware kit before I go much further.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/ace028/P1010009.jpg

[andym]

Yeah I am waiting on the hardware kits to. Steve says two weeks and that was a week ago so soon I hope. Although my renegade kit has not arrived yet must be on the slow boat!! If doesn't come sonn will have to report as not delivered.

[ace028]

Yeah I am waiting on the hardware kits to. Steve says two weeks and that was a week ago so soon I hope. Although my renegade kit has not arrived yet must be on the slow boat!! If doesn't come sonn will have to report as not delivered.

I recieved mine in 2 days, really fast shipping to me. hope you get it soon. I can't wait to finish mine.

[andym]

Yeah Broken Hill is nearly as far west as you can get in New South Wales in the middle of a desert. Post can sometimes take awhile

[Diegoboy]

It'll get there. Just give it time. ;)

[dirtysouth31]

Ya the Phoenix is very nice, set-up was a pain at first but once I figured it out it worked mint.

if you dont mind telling the rest of us,how in the hell do you get it to program:cursing: i would appreciate it:smile:

['83 chevy]

if you dont mind telling the rest of us,how in the hell do you get it to program:cursing: i would appreciate it:smile:

I set the throttle trigger to 50/50 travel, put the throttle trim down to the lowest setting. Turn on the radio, and plug in the esc, wait for it to beep once, then go to I hit the throttle, and wait for it to beep again and it works.

[dirtysouth31]

ill try tomorrow.is your tx a futaba?

['83 chevy]

ill try tomorrow.is your tx a futaba?

I'm using the Traxxas TQ3 from my crawlers for now, saving for a DX2 or 3.

[ace028]

Does anyone know Steve's email so I can get a rear hatch cover? I accedently glued it to the transom lol. I guess I could just make one myself. I was useing this email address allais3@sbcglobal.net and it says cannot send.

['83 chevy]

call him (707) 584-5126

[ace028]

Just called him, he's a cool guy.

[Diegoboy]

Just called him, he's a cool guy.
:iagree:


I have the email address as allais3@sbcglobal.net :confused1:

[ace028]

The last few times I tried to send him a email, yahoo sent me a message telling me it couldn't be sent. I don't know why because he sent me a email after he shipped the boat. I tried a bunch of times so I just called him. I was using that same email address.

[Diegoboy]

Did you question him about it while you had him on the phone?
:blink:

[ace028]

No, he sounded a little bit busy.

[Diegoboy]

Here's Dirty's pic...

[Diegoboy]

Here's the video...

Video (http://www.rcflix.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=2844&cat=503) <--

[dirtysouth31]

thats the maiden voyage..went exactly how i thought it was gonna go..upside down and sinkin..water came in through the top piece..not enough ca i guess..gonna epoxy the crap out of it tomorrow and wait on a new lipo..got a little wet filling up with water

['83 chevy]

That sucks, after my first close call I started ballooning the Lipo, but that battery is in my heli right now. I haven't ran my boat since the last time it scared me.:olleyes:

[Diegoboy]

It didn't sink, they can't sink. Dirty's hull was completely full of water and still didn't sink...
She started her very short run like this

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1559-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1559.jpg)


She ended her run like this

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1562-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1562.jpg)

[ace028]

That is sweet, can't wait to finish mine lol. Man when is OSE gonna have the hardware kits in stock? I bet I will flip mine too lol.

[ace028]

Guess I spoke too soon, the kits are in stock, but the price went up, thats kind of alot of money for what you are getting I think.

['83 chevy]

Guess I spoke too soon, the kits are in stock, but the price went up, thats kind of alot of money for what you are getting I think.

Naw not that much more, that kit includes a CNC strut, the old kits had a cast one. I really like how the new strut looks.

[ace028]

Naw not that much more, that kit includes a CNC strut, the old kits had a cast one. I really like how the new strut looks.

Do you think that it makes a difference that the new one don't have a little skeg on the bottom? I would think that the octura strut would be a little better for stability?

Still trying to not get in trouble from the wife and buy the kit so I can finish the boat lol.

['83 chevy]

Well I think this might be up for sale soon. I wanna get a new 1:1 ( Dodge Cummins not a 24valve), so I need to start gathering up some money to buy it. I am completely lost when it comes to pricing things. So if anyone has ideas on where to start for prices please PM me with your ideas, don't post them here please.

[dirtysouth31]

i wouldnt sell it chevy..such a" cute little thingy" as my wife says...you might sell it but your gonna take a hit on it..

['83 chevy]

ya I know I will be taking a hit on it badly, but I'm taking more of a hit having to keep my current truck fueled. I'm only getting 9-10mpg, and when I'm pulling the trailer I only get 7-8mpg. So thats why I want the diesel, I wont be working it as hard as I am on my gasser. And the millage will be better.

['83 chevy]

Well my dad and I have been talking, he told me I should wait until the end of school before I buy the new truck. He brought up the point of "if I sell my current truck to buy the cummins, what am I going to drive until I find one?" This also will mean that I can keep my current truck and use the rest of this year during which I will be working to save up some more money so that a can get a nicer one, and all the performance goodies I want to get for it(programmer,dual 5 or 6" stacks,lift and tires). This was one of my spur of the moment ideas, I never really thought this one completely through. I already have $2500 saved up and I can make the rest up working, I have 2 jobs. But when I sell all of my RC stuff I'll have about $1500 there:laugh: to add to the total.

This will give me a very nice goal to achieve

[Jeepers]

I am not trying to be mean, but I always thought it funny, when people say that cant afford gas. so they buy a new car to save on gas but get stuck with a huge car payment on top of the cost of gas. makes know sense to me, as i dont see were the savings are.

['83 chevy]

I am not trying to be mean, but I always thought it funny, when people say that cant afford gas. so they buy a new car to save on gas but get stuck with a huge car payment on top of the cost of gas. makes know sense to me, as i dont see were the savings are.


When I buy the new truck it is going to be bought outright, no monthly payments on my end. Diesel is a little bit more than gas right now but when I'll be getting twice the millage I am now it will be worth it.

[ace028]

Can you guys post some pictures of the layout of the electronics? I'm trying to get a idea about how to route everything. I'm still waiting to get the hardware kit, (have had some unexpected expences) But hopefully in the next few weeks I'll pick the kit up.

I'm planning to do a pretty sweet paint job on it so I'll post some pics, but it will be a little while before I get to painting it.

[ace028]

Anyone got a pic of the inside setup?

['83 chevy]

in this pic, you can kind of get the idea of where i had everything mounted. I mounted the ESC where it shows in the instructions,them my receiver was mounted in front of the servo, on top of the stuffing tube. it was a tight fit but everything did fit.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/100_1186.jpg

[ace028]

K thanks, I'm just trying to get a idea of where to route the wires so they won't rub the motor.

[ace028]

Well my dad and I have been talking, he told me I should wait until the end of school before I buy the new truck. He brought up the point of "if I sell my current truck to buy the cummins, what am I going to drive until I find one?" This also will mean that I can keep my current truck and use the rest of this year during which I will be working to save up some more money so that a can get a nicer one, and all the performance goodies I want to get for it(programmer,dual 5 or 6" stacks,lift and tires). This was one of my spur of the moment ideas, I never really thought this one completely through. I already have $2500 saved up and I can make the rest up working, I have 2 jobs. But when I sell all of my RC stuff I'll have about $1500 there:laugh: to add to the total.

This will give me a very nice goal to achieve

Don't sell your RC stuff!! I sold some of my stuff, and now I am really regretting it! I took a huge hit on it, didn't get anywhere near half of what I spent on it. And now of course I miss it.