Police Hydrofoil build

[Diegoboy]

Here are some progress pics...
Sorry for the delay

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White Primer
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1444-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1444.jpg)

More white primer
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1445-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1445.jpg)

Completely rebuilt the front wing
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1446-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1446.jpg)

Rear wing still needs help
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1447-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1447.jpg)

I pulled out the solid drive shaft & it's U-joints. I intend to replace it with a flex shaft.

[Diegoboy]

...more pics

New mast with working light
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1448-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1448.jpg)

Darker windows are a must
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1449-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1449.jpg)

A few parts needing to be replaced
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1450-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1450.jpg)

Brushless power
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1451-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1451.jpg)

[Stealth Assassin]

That's Insane! I can't wait to see It run...:D

[Diegoboy]

Me too. Did you notice that crazy U-joint on the old motor? :confused:

[Quicksilver]

Was thinking, I wonder if you should beef up the original strut since this motor will be oh.......like 100x more powerful. I also would be surprised if you have change the angle on the foils, maybe not but I could see some stability problems at like 30mph.

I want to see her fly, but perhaps a controlled flight. :)

[Doug Smock]

Looking good sir!

Doug

[Diegoboy]

Was thinking, I wonder if you should beef up the original strut since this motor will be oh.......like 100x more powerful. I also would be surprised if you have change the angle on the foils, maybe not but I could see some stability problems at like 30mph.

I want to see her fly, but perhaps a controlled flight. :)

Up or down? Please educate me on what you see, because I need all the help I can get on this one...




Looking good sir!

Doug


Thank you Doug!

[Jeepers]

cool cant wait to see it run! how much longer till completion?

[Diegoboy]

not sure... I need serious help rebuilding the upper deck. It's a lot harder than I thought. Plus the rear wing still needs repair. I hope it'll function soon.:o

[Stealth Assassin]

not sure... I need serious help rebuilding the upper deck. It's a lot harder than I thought. Plus the rear wing still needs repair. I hope it'll function soon.:o

Just send It my way!;)

[Diegoboy]

Just send It my way!;)

Okay. Thank you!
I'll send you the upper deck and all the stuff I bought to duplicate a new one. I took apart the upper deck to make templates for the new material, but I just can't seem to do it right.

Thank you for offering to help. I appreciate it...
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[Diegoboy]

I'm running across issues with rebuilding the rear wing. I just have to get past my fear of messing it up.
Anyway, I just got a set of these for the boat.

Strobe lights (http://www.tjtrc.com/Videos/lipoV2_0001.wmv)
Mine are Solid red & green (nav lights)
and 6 blue strobes
and the bright white (search light)
:D
Here's (http://www.tjtrc.com/Videos/NightHeli.wmv)the kit on a heli...

[Stealth Assassin]

Are you the popo diegoboy???:cool:

[Diegoboy]

LOL. I had to look that one up.
No, They wouldn't have me anyway (except in custody) LOL
My cousin went through Va Beach Police academy, and graduated. :D

[Jeepers]

Hey how is this project going?

[Eyekandyboats]

that's going to be COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
i love hydrofoils!

[Diegoboy]

Hey how is this project going?
Sorry guys. I put this one and a few others on hold for a bit. I recently learned that my sister in Australia was murdered by her husband. Sad times here right now. Family from New york are here with us now. Sorry.:crying:

[Diegoboy]

:confused1:
So many thoughts running through my mind, I really don't know what I'm doing...

[Steven Vaccaro]

I feel for you big time! I'm not quite sure what to say, other than our thoughts and prayers are with you!

[wickedgmc]

my condolences to you and your family

[Jeepers]

Sorry guys. I put this one and a few others on hold for a bit. I recently learned that my sister in Australia was murdered by her husband. Sad times here right now. Family from New york are here with us now. Sorry.:crying:

Man you dont need to apologize to us, take care of your family, our thoughts and prayers to you and your family.


Sean C

['83 chevy]

very sorry, thoughts and prayers also go out to you and your family.

[Diegoboy]

Thank you everyone. It really means a lot. I am trying not to think about it.

[dirtysouth31]

if you stay at a holiday inn express you would feel much better..anyways everything is gonna be aight diegoboy..i will call later and we can run the riggers to take your mind off of it..nothing like a good whoopin to ease the tension

[kck741]

Hey diegoboy where can I find a hydrofoil kit

[Diegoboy]

Hey diegoboy where can I find a hydrofoil kit

You'll have to keep an eye on the German ebay site (http://www.ebay.de/)... It's the only place I have seen them for sale, and it is rare.

Search this word from time to time... Tragflächenboot

[kck741]

I found some site it had info on it but I could not see where I could find a used one.Tryed the German Ebay-thanx(Diegoboy).I just thought It would be a sweet build!!!

[Diegoboy]

Any updates?

I have dismantled the entire boat after receiving her, because the material that the superstructure was made of was very weak and cracking.
I have installed a new deck (thicker), and built an entirely new superstructure. I have modified the access to the electronics, Now, the whole superstructure seperates from the hull in one piece.
I installed glass cloth and carbon tubes on the hull floor for strength. Racer504 fabricated new aluminum wings for her (still waiting for them to arrive.) CornelP has worked on the graphics she will wear.
Plans include a wood planked inner deck floor and working LED police strobes. Power will come from a Brushed Graupner speed 700 motor.

Here are the Pics from 10-10-11:

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hfoil-01-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hfoil-01.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hfoil-02-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hfoil-02.jpg)

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Update from 10-13-11:
I need paint before I can do much more. What I have done is modified the stand for strength and looks. I have installed the new wings (THANK YOU RACER504) and built the wing guards (keeps the wings from hitting the pier when docking)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hydrofoil-10-s.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hydrofoil-10.jpg)

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10-19-11:
Got the wooden deck installed today.

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hfoil05-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hfoil05.jpg)

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10-25-11:
Paint update

the hull is coming along
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/hazegry/dannyshydrofoilhull.jpg]
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/hazegry/dannyshydrofoil1.jpg


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[Diegoboy]

10-29-11 and we are now up-to-date:

More work was done today...

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil20-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil20.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil21-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil21.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil22-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil22.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil23-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil23.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil24-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil24.jpg)

[Jedi Master]

Looks awesome; great job on the finer details......:cool2:

[Diegoboy]

Thank you Jedi. That map on the dash is the germany waterways map I shrunk down. :thumbup:

Today she underwent her first tub test and leaked where the wings enter the hull. I remember scraping away some silicone on the wing bulkheads years ago, and that was where the leaks were. 5min epoxy resolved that. Tub test #2 was a complete success. Hazegry gave her a push and she rose out of the water with little effort. I have to commend Racer504 for the awesome repfabrication of the wings!!!

[Diegoboy]

FYI:
Anyone wanting one of these hydrofoils, I found one HERE (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.willhaben.at/iad/kaufen-und-verkaufen/freizeit-hobby-kulinarik/hegi-tragflaechenboot-1979-neu-ungebaut-30295450%3FadId%3D30295450&ei=nQmuTp-fLIrC0AH7mPSZDw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CGYQ7gEwCA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhegi%2BTragfl%25C3%25A4chenboot%26hl% 3Den%26safe%3Doff%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26biw%3D1311%26bih%3D552%26prmd%3Dimvns).
I don't know how long it'll be available because of it's rarity, but also it's price tag. $424USD + shipping from Austria

If I had the money, I'd be all over this one (new in box) WOW

[racer504]

Thank you Jedi. That map on the dash is the germany waterways map I shrunk down. :thumbup:

Today she underwent her first tub test and leaked where the wings enter the hull. I remember scraping away some silicone on the wing bulkheads years ago, and that was where the leaks were. 5min epoxy resolved that. Tub test #2 was a complete success. Hazegry gave her a push and she rose out of the water with little effort. I have to commend Racer504 for the awesome repfabrication of the wings!!!

That is just too cool!:thumbup: I was wondering if (hoping) they would work out for you.

[hazegry]

Racer they worked great and we were both impressed with your work.

[Diegoboy]

Okay, I have never claimed to be a painter, but with Hazegry gone for 11 days I tried my hand at it once again. (yes i has runs in it)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil25-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/hegi-hfoil25.jpg)

[hazegry]

I see you found my airbrush and the cheeze-its lol looks great man

[Diegoboy]

Okay, I hacked up a $3 micro servo and made this radar. Does anyone think I should spend the time tweaking this more to use on this model?

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[Boaterguy]

what more is there to be done?
I think you should do it.

[Jesse J]

Danny you really should slow down on this build... I can't quite keep up!

Very nice looking; do you have any links to the real McGee?

Sweet radar, nice speed. Thad seems to be the challenge with those buggers.

[Diegoboy]

Thanks Jesse.
4 years in the works, I need to catch up on her completion.

HERE's (http://foils.org/gallery/hessen.htm) the only existing images of the real ones that I know of.

Keep in mind, I'm building this one as if the German waterway police reactivated these today. There was never a #5, but mine is 5 because it's my favorite number

[Doby]

Okay, I hacked up a $3 micro servo and made this radar. Does anyone think I should spend the time tweaking this more to use on this model?

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You should spend more time tweaking the clothes pin!

[Diegoboy]

You should spend more time tweaking the clothes pin!

Okay

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[Boaterguy]

that looks sweet.

[domwilson]

You sure got an eye for detail! You're not planning to make genetically enhanced micro police are you?:laugh:

Good Job!

[Jesse J]

Thanks Jesse.
4 years in the works, I need to catch up on her completion.

HERE's (http://foils.org/gallery/hessen.htm) the only existing images of the real ones that I know of.

Keep in mind, I'm building this one as if the German waterway police reactivated these today. There was never a #5, but mine is 5 because it's my favorite number

Thanks for that Danny! Really makes me wanna dig out my old abandoned hydrofoil project... But since I am in a land of year round boating... Might not happen for a while. Love those pics and am glad to see you making headway (at whatever rate)!

[Diegoboy]

I guess Doby doesn't like my new clothes pin?

LED's are now in hand, Resistors have been picked up, I just need to work out the housing for the navigation lights...

Shall I go with this style?
http://www.harbormodels.com/site08/images/lights/Navigation-LightsGR687.jpg

or this type?
http://www.harbormodels.com/site08/images/stevens/ste_187-189.jpg

or even this set?
http://www.harbormodels.com/site08/images/stevens/ste_153.jpg

Whichever I go with, the bulb will have to go to make way for the LED's

Any thoughts?

[HydroMike]

this is really nice ur going to have to bring this to our next d12 race next year have to see this in person

[Doby]

I like the new clothes pin!!

[Diegoboy]

80% done with the LED's. I will post a Lights video when done

[egneg]

Can't wait to see it run Danny.

[Diegoboy]

Same here Chuck! I hope you'll be there for her first run.

Video as promised:

Chatter sound is from the cheap servo I attached to the RX. Spotlight isn't ready, and the LED used as the spotlight in this video isn't even the one I will use, It's just there for testing.
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[Boaterguy]

that's so cool!
would using a headlight lamp work for the spotlight? it sure would be bright enough.

[Diegoboy]

I have a very high power LED with the proper limiting resistor all ready to use, but I need a spotlight housing to install the LED in. I used to have about three or four of them but now I can't find one.
It looks like this, but I remove the bulb to install my LED...

http://www.harbormodels.com/site08/images/stevens/ste_163.jpg

[domwilson]

Looks really good. As I said before. You sure have an eye for detail.

[Diegoboy]

Okay, I need some input here. I know most aren't scale boat guys, but this is a mostly FE question.
She will be brushless, but I will not be able to cool anything with water (since she rises out of the water) I'm looking for a mild brushless setup that's better performance than a Graupner speed 600 race (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/edward.matthews/ddmbc_files/motors/graupner.htm) brushed motor (21,000 rpm) but it needs to be mild enough to not heat so much it needs coolingon on 3S lipo.

I do have a pair of motor heat sinks for a 36mm dia motor:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/catalog/18343.jpg

Prop might be around the 32-38mm range.

What I have to work with:
Turnigy B36-56-1800kv (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6526)
SV27 45A ESC (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMYB8&P=M)
Pro Boat 45A ESC (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=dh-prb3309&cat=75)

I know I will need either another motor to use either ESC, or a new ESC to use this motor but What do you guys think?

[Doby]

Why can't you watercool? Can you not run tubing down to the foils and have a pick up there??

[Diegoboy]

The rear wings have the more vertical wing arms, they already have tubes mointed in fromt of each arm for the rudder shafts. The front wing arms are out at an angle which would put any pickup at the base of these arms out of the water during "flight"

[Diegoboy]

my only real option is to use a prop wash pickup that follows the stuffing tube to the prop, but I hate the look of them on FE, there's NO WAY i'm doing it on this one.

[Diegoboy]

What do you think about a SV27 motor on the Pro boat 45A ESC I already have on 3S? Still too much heat with heat sinks on the motor?

[Rumdog]

Castle makes some nifty fan cooled heat sinks for the 40mm motors. They may have them for 36mm cans too, but not sure.

[Rumdog]

Here ya go: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Castle-Creations-1-10-Motor-Cooling-Fan-/290603592983?pt=Radio_Control_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43a952ed17

[Doby]

What do you think about a SV27 motor on the Pro boat 45A ESC I already have on 3S? Still too much heat with heat sinks on the motor?

Danny;

I my big Lehmar (drool) I'm running 2 Fiego 9XLs on 3S each with Turnighy 120's and they never get above warm. They are watercooled but the watercooling got clogged last year and I ran the rest of the year with no heat issues and little (or no) cooling.

[Diegoboy]

y's Thanks everyone for the input. I think Doby's 9xl & 120a solution is my ticket. Now I need to find them...

[LarrysDrifter]

They have them the 36's.

[Boaterguy]

what about getting a keda from OSE? (assuming they're still on sale)

[Diegoboy]

what about getting a keda from OSE? (assuming they're still on sale)

Do you know if they tend to run hot?

[Diegoboy]

LED's are DONE! I decided not to do a mast light or an overhead pilot house light. Here's what I have:

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[Jesse J]

Danny, I have gone round and round inside my head about the motor issue. I have a feeling the prop won't ever be surface penetrating. Therefore I would be looking to use tons of torque at high voltage; the work of take off will be pretty labor intensive and maintaining flight won't be the same as keeping an sv on plane. The prop might need to be small and round - not like the X series octura.

How about one of the low kv t600s? Then the issue of all the weight... Now you get the idea of why mine is still on the shelf....

[Diegoboy]

Jesse,
Post some pics of yours. I would love to see her maybe we can toss some ideas back and forth

[Diegoboy]

The boat had her first run yesterday. She ran well but didn't last long. The rush to get her ready for sea trials costed me an RChydros Sport ESC and a motor. The motor screws were just a tad too long, I knew it when installing them, but I was determined to see her run at all costs. I'm now on the lookout for a traxxas evx-2.
Please keep your eyes peeled for one (cheap) It will be pushing a Traxxas 775 motor

[Boaterguy]

i have a t600 1400kv laying around, jic you need it.

[hazegry]

it was really cool to watch run we have to get it up and going again and get video

[Diegoboy]

The Traxxas 775 brushed motor and the EVX-2 is installed and programmed. I'm going to make another test run before I re-hook up the LED's because I don't want to wait for another rx controlled on/off switch from hong kong.

[Boaterguy]

good luck on 'er cap'n

[egneg]

good luck on 'er cap'n

When is the test run ... I have a couple new boats to test as well.

[Diegoboy]

If i don't have to run calls in Richmond, I hope to run her Sunday, if I can't get a break, then it'll be next weekend when I'm off. I would love to have you there Chuck. I know about your Arleigh burke, but what else do you have that's new? It'll be awesome to run with you again!

[Boaterguy]

richmond ontario?

[Diegoboy]

No, Richmond VA (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=richmond+va&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x89b111095799c9ed:0xbfd83e6de2423cc5,Richmo nd,+VA&gl=us&ei=dYn_TvX_BOrL0QHZs7DoBQ&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCcQ8gEwAA)

[egneg]

I also have a modded Miss G to check out. If not tomorrow maybe the following week sometime as next weekend I work.