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properchopper
09-11-2009, 10:59 PM
Look out, this boat rips !! [ VS-1 motor; Jan might chime in with the rest of the setup] :thumbup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT5BHpQ8Pvk

Ub Hauled
09-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Great camera man! Thanks T.

4s1p
UL-1 ESC, Motor
Wire Drive

Tony, we have to do this again, today was a good day...

properchopper
09-11-2009, 11:49 PM
Great camera man! Thanks T.

4s1p
UL-1 ESC, Motor
Wire Drive

Tony, we have to do this again, today was a good day...

I'll check with my social secretary to see when I have an opening :bounce:

Ub Hauled
09-11-2009, 11:55 PM
Have your people talk to my people...
;)

Xzessperated
09-12-2009, 12:20 AM
Very nice Jan. You people sure have it good having access to Lake Legg or is is Legg Lake. Great camera and camera man.
Tony's DF33 is of great interest too as I am building one myself.
Looks like you guys had a great day.
Paddy

Ub Hauled
09-12-2009, 12:42 AM
Thanks Paddy...
it in deed was a great day, the "Legg Lake Moster" did not claim any boats today.
;)
Tony's DF33 is awesome to see, soooo fricking fast and handles GREAT... considering I am not a Mono man myself, that means a lot.
I owe you an email BTW

raptor347
09-12-2009, 01:28 AM
That's it!!! I'm laying up a new one for myself sunday morning. I haven't had one running in a couple years. Time to remind my club mates what tat boat is capable of.

Boat looks good. Do you have an airdam under the front end?

Ub Hauled
09-12-2009, 01:46 AM
No air dam yet Brian... so far she's sticking the straights,
2 lap setup, maybe I can get her ready.

teach
09-12-2009, 11:32 AM
Great camera man! Thanks T.

4s1p
UL-1 ESC, Motor
Wire Drive

Tony, we have to do this again, today was a good day...

Great video. I was lucky enough to snag one of those hulls myself. BJ motor and esc, wire drive and a ball bearing strut. Couldn't be happier. Any pics of the how you set the inside up?

Your Camera man rocked! I tried to take a few videos myself. Ended up with 3 minutes of rooster tails and 20 seconds of the boats on the screen.




That's it!!! I'm laying up a new one for myself sunday morning. I haven't had one running in a couple years. Time to remind my club mates what tat boat is capable of.

Boat looks good. Do you have an airdam under the front end?


Do it!! I was the one talking to you a few weeks ago about the ride pads I assumed came with the boat. That hull really does great with spec power. For what ever reason (I don't know crap about what makes hulls work) it didn't seem to mind rough water at all. Oh ya, post pics please.

properchopper
09-12-2009, 11:55 AM
If I'm not mistaken,[ Brian correct me if I'm wrong about the hull] a Dark Horse Shovel holds the NAMBA LSO SAW record set in 2006 by Dick Crowe : 56.25 mph with a brushed SS1 on 12 NIMH's !! Dick offered to sell me the boat after the race; wish I'd done it :doh:

raptor347
09-12-2009, 02:48 PM
Dick's LSH record was set with a scratch built wood pickle fork.

The DH does hold:
Namba-SAW records.
N2 sport hydro-67.81 mph (NiMH)
O sport hydro-64.86 mph (NiMH)

IMPBA-SAW records.
N2 sport hydro-77.506 mph (LiPo)
O2 sport hydro- 67.044 mph (NiMH)
P sport hydro- 80.964 mph (NiMH)

I think it still hold 3 5/8 mile heat records as well.

sailr
09-12-2009, 03:09 PM
What are the specs on the DH? Can the hulls be bought?

properchopper
09-12-2009, 03:43 PM
[QUOTE=properchopper;123664]If I'm not mistaken,[ Brian correct me if I'm wrong about the hull] a Dark Horse Shovel holds the NAMBA LSO SAW record/QUOTE]

Whoops, I meant LSH , not LSO [ I took the LSO record that year] Dick's boat was a shovel, white, red & blue. Record still stands in LSH.

Ub Hauled
09-12-2009, 04:03 PM
I thought Dick Crowe broke the record with that Miss Mariner Too...

properchopper
09-12-2009, 05:37 PM
Yup; a Shovelnose - Thought it was a DH, but that was three years ago and with my mem....Hey what was I talking about ?

Ub Hauled
09-12-2009, 05:46 PM
Dunno, I forgot...

raptor347
09-12-2009, 09:05 PM
Dick actualy ran my Mariner Too for the N-2 record. He'd broken all his toys by noon on saturday so I handed him my DH to run for the rest of the weekend. He ran his own design for the LSH record. Trust me, I teched the boat.

The specs for the DH Shovel:
Length 25"
Beam 11.5"
Tunnel width 6.5"
AP 13.5"


Ray Fuller will have 3 gray primered hulls on tuesday. If you want one in raw glass, contact me directly.

Ub Hauled
09-13-2009, 12:20 AM
Brian, anything different on the new DH Shovels when compared to the old ones?

raptor347
09-13-2009, 12:21 AM
Nope. Same boat, same mold, same guy laying them up.

Flying Scotsman
09-14-2009, 01:39 PM
Wow, what a great video and boat. Brian, you have a pm

Douggie

Ub Hauled
09-14-2009, 05:43 PM
Went this morning on a spur of the moment kinda thing with a few mods to the boat...
boy I wish I had a camera...

properchopper
09-14-2009, 06:01 PM
Went this morning on a spur of the moment kinda thing with a few mods to the boat...
boy I wish I had a camera...

You DO have a camera [ & a cameraman with a camera ]

Ub Hauled
09-14-2009, 06:05 PM
You DO have a camera [ & a cameraman with a camera ]

:moon:

properchopper
09-14-2009, 06:11 PM
:moon:

Hey, you know I don't swing that way ! :tiphat:

Gary
09-14-2009, 08:53 PM
That boat handles great!!!!!!!

properchopper
09-17-2009, 10:56 PM
Some more great laps !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZHXEMUVTPA

Ub Hauled
09-18-2009, 06:21 PM
this was a good day for the Legg Lake users... I am getting pretty happy about the DH and it's always great to see Tony's boats... I even to his Vegas for a drive! Thanks T, now I have to complete mine and bring it on!
;)

teach
09-18-2009, 06:40 PM
Would have a build link to your DH? Maybe a few pics of the inside?

Ub Hauled
09-18-2009, 07:57 PM
I'll arrange some inside shots later on tonite, I am out the door for dinner.

properchopper
09-18-2009, 08:14 PM
I am out the door for dinner.

She kick you out again ? Told you not to wear that funny costume in the house :roflol:

teach
09-18-2009, 08:29 PM
Well it's better he wears it inside then outside....right?

Ub Hauled
09-19-2009, 12:10 AM
T, remember that picture of yours you showed me... I do...
:lol:

here's the inside shot as promised... nothing too different.

Flying Scotsman
09-25-2009, 12:01 PM
Jan, may I ask what hardware you are using, as I have purchased one from Brian and I have never run a shovel design hydro. I will use an SV27 motor and ESC as I already have that power setup.

Thanks,

Douggie

Ub Hauled
09-25-2009, 12:04 PM
Sure Douggie...
I don't know what hardware it is... I think the strut is Aeromarine, but I am not sure about the rudder and assembly.
I'll take a pic
An SV motor setup right will yield a lot of fun...

raptor347
09-25-2009, 03:53 PM
Douggie,
She's on the way. I'll send you a list of parts and setup tips this weekend.

Jan,
That's a speedmaster standard 21 rudder that's cut down.

Ub Hauled
09-25-2009, 04:30 PM
Thanks Brian

Flying Scotsman
09-25-2009, 06:14 PM
Thank YOU ..Brian and Jan
Douggie

Gary
09-27-2009, 04:42 PM
That lake is fantastic!!!!!!!!!You guys are lucky!!!

properchopper
09-27-2009, 04:46 PM
That lake is fantastic!!!!!!!!!You guys are lucky!!!

Not only is the oval course nice, but the same lake is used for SAWs further down the lake. C'mon out !! [OK Ct's a little far..]

Flying Scotsman
09-29-2009, 03:43 PM
I received my Dark Horse Shovel today, now the fun starts. Brian that is the best manufactuered hull I have ever purchased :bowdown::bowdown:

Douggie

Darin Jordan
09-29-2009, 03:45 PM
I received my Dark Horse Shovel today, now the fun starts. Brian that is the best manufactuered hull I have ever purchased :bowdown::bowdown:

Douggie

RIGHT ON, Douggie!! You now know what many of the rest of us know... Brian's work is simply amazing! Too bad there is only one of him!! ;)

Enjoy! And POST PICTURES!!

egneg
09-29-2009, 06:19 PM
Jan, may I ask what hardware you are using, as I have purchased one from Brian and I have never run a shovel design hydro. I will use an SV27 motor and ESC as I already have that power setup.

Thanks,

Douggie

Douggie, I have the speedmaster 21 rudder but could not use it - if you want it I will send it to you.

Cheesehead Chuck :rockon2:

raptor347
09-29-2009, 10:05 PM
I received my Dark Horse Shovel today, now the fun starts. Brian that is the best manufactuered hull I have ever purchased :bowdown::bowdown:

Douggie

Glad you like. I try to build something that I'd be happy with if I was paying for it.

I'll get you measurements in the morning. I still feel like garbage, this bug is lasting way too long. For that matter, I may be back at the doctors tomorrow.

Flying Scotsman
10-01-2009, 07:18 PM
OK, with a SV27 motor and ESC, 4S power what would the bald idiot from California and the refinened gentleman from Washington recommend for hardware and cog etc. Tony you are excluded as you are running a piece of foreign crap, :just-kidding:unless you say I love American products 1000 times

Douggie

raptor347
10-02-2009, 01:44 AM
CG at the TE of the sponson to 1/2" behind.
Speed master small round bottom strut and .21 mini rudder.
Strut 3/16" right of center.
Rudder 2" left of strut center line.

teach
10-02-2009, 01:58 AM
CG at the TE of the sponson to 1/2" behind.
Speed master small round bottom strut and .21 mini rudder.
Strut 3/16" right of center.
Rudder 2" left of strut center line.

Did you ever get around to making one for yourself?

Flying Scotsman
10-02-2009, 11:54 AM
CG at the TE of the sponson to 1/2" behind.
Speed master small round bottom strut and .21 mini rudder.
Strut 3/16" right of center.
Rudder 2" left of strut center line.

Thank you Brian

6S HYDRO
12-18-2009, 03:01 PM
hey, i got one of the ones from Ray. the only one he built. what are you guy using for strut depth?

Ken Haines
12-18-2009, 03:26 PM
Hey Brian,
Your DH shovel holds the IMPBA Q-sport SAWS record as well.
Wonder if I could get 8s into that little hull. LOL
Ken :bounce:

Ub Hauled
12-18-2009, 10:44 PM
hey, i got one of the ones from Ray. the only one he built. what are you guy using for strut depth?

I'll measure it and post it later...

6S HYDRO
12-18-2009, 11:10 PM
thanks UB

properchopper
12-18-2009, 11:51 PM
Paul, remember that different props require different strut height settings relative to the lift characteristics of the prop[s].

6S HYDRO
12-19-2009, 01:14 AM
ok, an s220 prather s&b by hyperformance- do you know what mm this prop is?

D. Newland
12-19-2009, 10:46 PM
IIRC, the S220 is comparable to an X645. Maybe even closer to an X545.

properchopper
12-19-2009, 10:50 PM
The P-220 is 43.689 mm. Great prop, one of my favorites :smile: Fast & unloads well .

P-220 : pitch 2.6
X545 : pitch 2.478
X645 : pitch 2.832

6S HYDRO
12-19-2009, 11:26 PM
Thanks Tony and Dave

6S HYDRO
12-19-2009, 11:28 PM
I gps'd her yesterday in race trim 49.6 mph, and i didnt go out that far

6S HYDRO
12-29-2009, 01:27 AM
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/6s-hydro/DSC00582.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/6s-hydro/DSC00583.jpg

here she is

properchopper
12-29-2009, 09:33 AM
Lookin' good ! Should stand out in the pack !

6S HYDRO
12-29-2009, 01:07 PM
thanks Tony

Ub Hauled
12-29-2009, 05:51 PM
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/6s-hydro/DSC00582.jpg

http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww218/6s-hydro/DSC00583.jpg

here she is

Where did you get the little man... well, head?

Ub Hauled
12-29-2009, 05:56 PM
I'll measure it and post it later...

Sorry, I forgot about it...
I have the strut set at 26mm from the bottom of the hull to the center of the log.

westbeach
12-29-2009, 06:44 PM
Nice bright looking Shovel you got there Paul! Just received my DH in the mail today. Got me struts and rudder coming in the mail too. Am going to try a wire drive on this, like Jan's DH.

6S HYDRO
12-29-2009, 08:20 PM
ub, its off a 10th scale driver compartment for a 10th scale lexan car body, got it at the lhs

Ub Hauled
12-30-2009, 12:23 AM
thanks Paul