Renegade Rigger (Price Drop)

[Diegoboy]

I'm not sure how long this will be for, but MAN that's a sweet deal. That is a strong, fast, reliable boat, plus you can't beat the service from Steve!!!

Renegade Sale
(http://www.bizingo.com/m/Renegade%20Riggers/pC/renegade-rigger.asp)

[Diegoboy]

Here's a video (http://media.putfile.com/Renegade-rough-water-mods)

['83 chevy]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I might have to get one of those, that is sick

I have a question, is it that hard to build a wooden boat?

[Diegoboy]

I have one, It's the very boat you saw running (first) in the video. I have been told that it's very easy to build by owners & the designer. It can be built in less than a day.

['83 chevy]

I have one, It's the very boat you saw running (first) in the video. I have been told that it's very easy to build by owners & the designer. It can be built in less than a day.

What hardware are you running Dboy?

[Diegoboy]

If you look at the HW kits (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ose-ren-kit)on OSE, That's the kit and that is a pic of my boat!!! :D
This site (http://www.bizingo.com/m/Fields%20Hobby/pC/renegade-rigger.asp) has the kit, since Steven is out...

[SJFE]

Man thats alota freekin parts...lol. Id so mess that up..:P

[Diegoboy]

No, you wouldn't. It's depron then layered with balsa, so there's 2 of everything. ;)

['83 chevy]

If you look at the HW kits (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=ose-ren-kit)on OSE, That's the kit and that is a pic of my boat!!! :D
This site (http://www.bizingo.com/m/Fields%20Hobby/p/renegade-package-1.asp) has the kit, since Steven is out...

Ok cool, definitely gonna get one. thanks for the heads up. Whats the top speed on that thing?

[Diegoboy]

I can safely say that it is, by far, my fastest boat. I have never been able to GPS her because I can't find a GPS small enough. :mad:

I just ordered another one!! :eek:

['83 chevy]

I can safely say that it is, by far, my fastest boat. I have never been able to GPS her because I can't find a GPS small enough. :mad:

I just ordered another one!! :eek:
ahahah any estimates?

[Diegoboy]

Dirtysouth tells me it's capable of 50+
Dirty says that mine is running in the low 40's.

[Diegoboy]

The boats designer had this to say about the prop...

If you want max top speed then an octura x-632 seems to be the ticket and even better if de-tongued

I run the X430

['83 chevy]

The boats designer had this to say about the prop...
Uhhh, can translate that to newbie?:D

what motor and esc do you run?

[Diegoboy]

This prop is best... X632 (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/products.php?cat=87) , <-- first in the list.
I use the X430 (getting the x632 for the new one)

This is the ESC I use... Phoenix 25 (http://www.castlecreations.com/products/phoenix-25.html)

The Motor is the stock one that comes optional with the kit... 400DF (http://www.milehighrc.com/brushless400DFA.html)

['83 chevy]

Ok I'm ordering one of these in about an hour, i have dumbe question about the hull, what is on the outside? the depron or the balsa? And DiegoBoy, when i get mine up and running I'm sure I'm going to need some guidance on setting up the hardware, like settings,strut depth etc.

[Diegoboy]

No prob. The balsa is on the outside. Paint as desired, or seal the balsa for the "wood" look.
Grant Ed from RCU said that he bought two recently (but at the higher price):eek:

['83 chevy]

ok this will be my last question until i get it, what lipo pack do you use and how do you like it?

[Diegoboy]

I use this Lipo. It has a built in balancer, so I don't have to worry...
http://www.electrifly.com/batteries/gpmp0823-lg.jpg

I was reluctant to go Lipo, but this battery, with it's simplicity, made it easy for me.

['83 chevy]

thanks for the help, now i know you need special chargers, what would be an alright charger, nothing fancy because like you I'm still wary of Lipo's, and this is my only boat running them.

[Diegoboy]

I use this...
Vision peak ultra (http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=DYN4053)

['83 chevy]

Well I just ordered it, how long does it usually take to receive it?

[dirtysouth31]

I use this...
Vision peak ultra (http://www.dynamiterc.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=DYN4053)

yeah out in the sunhttp://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04282.gif

[Diegoboy]

...always kickin' me when I'm down huh Dirty?
http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04268.gif

So I modded my charger, then blew the transformer, now I'm reduced to doing all my charging in the sun, under my car hood since I voided my warranty.

Thanks for reminding me how much it sucks to be me...

[Diegoboy]

Well I just ordered it, how long does it usually take to receive it?

It won't be long... Steve ships quickly!

[adreher]

Might be a dumb question, does this thing have cooling?

[Diegoboy]

There was no cooling, and no real need as the motor never gets too hot. Steve has designed a cooling device that he put on the prototype boat (mine) and he will soon make the cooling available for those that want it. Remember that it's not needed.
Here are the pics of the cooling...
Keep in mind that it's an outrunner motor, therefore a water jacket cannot be used.

[Stealth Assassin]

Do those smiley faces come from aol???

[saleens7]

no, they come from here

http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/index.html

[Diegoboy]

My Renegade arrived today! :D

['83 chevy]

My Renegade arrived today! :D
what day did you order it? Mine shipped out yesterday

[Diegoboy]

Mine shipped Tues. Got it Thurs!!
You may see yours Tomorrow.

['83 chevy]

Mine shipped Tues. Got it Thurs!!
You may see yours Tomorrow.
What method does he use to ship?

[Diegoboy]

USPS Priority.
You should have it today or tomorrow!

['83 chevy]

Oh ok, just wondering because the mail has already came, so hopefully tomorrow.

BTW Im heading the the hobby shop today(not open tomorrow), do they specify what type of glue to use during assembly? Or should i just pick up a bottle of CA?

[Diegoboy]

Ya. It calls for a "foam compatable CA glue with kicker"
It suggests EFLA208 (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLA208).

[rhinopole]

What kind of paint did you use? Did you seal it first? If so, what did you seal it with?

[Diegoboy]

Didn't paint or seal it. Steve did. The renegade I have was the very boat in the videos and pictures. It was the "prototype" for the renegade rigger. I got her as an RTR. ;)

[adreher]

Hey Diegoboy,

I appreciate all the advice you have been giving in this thread. I have been looking at getting one of these boats for awhile and learned alot about them from reading all this.

[Diegoboy]

You're welcome.
As soon as I get some of that glue, I'm going to start a step by step build thread with pics.

Not to mention my Hydrofoil (http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=889) project (Police), My Billings WSP10 (http://www.modelskibet.dk/product.asp?product=2562&sub=4&page=1) project (Fire), and my "Special boat (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/secret.htm)" project (Miss Bud replacement) !
http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04254.gif

[dirtysouth31]

your a wanker diego!!!!special boathttp://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04256.gif

[Diegoboy]

http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04263.gif

LOL... ya like that??

[Diegoboy]

I need to order the HW for the new one
:(

['83 chevy]

I need to order the HW for the new one
:(
Fields just got back to me, they are waiting for a couple of parts to come in to complete the package, but they will be shipping out this week.

On another note I got my rigger today and one of the rear wood pieces for the sponson is missing. No big deal I can just make a new one

edit, Diegoboy, could you get some pics of the inside of yours, where the battery goes, I'm not sure if the reinforcement foam pieces go inside the main hull or on the sponsons.

[Diegoboy]

Contact Steve E. He'll send you one, trust me he's a good guy!

['83 chevy]

Contact Steve E. He'll send you one, trust me he's a good guy!
Ya i guess, he's shipping out a new piece tomorrow:eek:

talk about customer service

[Diegoboy]

Ya. They don't make'em like him anymore! lol

[dirtysouth31]

it sucks being diegoboyhttp://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04222.gif

[Stealth Assassin]

What prop Is being used and do you have a pic to post of the complete rig? Where did you get your HW?

[Jeepers]

You're welcome.
As soon as I get some of that glue, I'm going to start a step by step build thread with pics.

Not to mention my Hydrofoil (http://forums.offshoreelectrics.com/showthread.php?t=889) project (Police), My Billings WSP10 (http://www.modelskibet.dk/product.asp?product=2562&sub=4&page=1) project (Fire), and my "Special boat (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/secret.htm)" project (Miss Bud replacement) !
http://www.addemoticons.com/emoticon/animated/AddEmoticons04254.gif


How long till we find out about the "SPECIAL BOAT"?:rolleyes:

[Diegoboy]

What prop Is being used and do you have a pic to post of the complete rig? Where did you get your HW?


The boats designer had this to say about the prop...

Steve Elias][/b]
If you want max top speed then an octura x-632 seems to be the ticket and even better if de-tongued



I run the X430
The x632 seems to be the best choice!

OSE sells the HW, the pic posted there is of my boat.

[Diegoboy]

How long till we find out about the "SPECIAL BOAT"?:rolleyes:

Hopefully this month... :eek:

['83 chevy]

Well this sucks. One of the rear sponson skins was missing, so Steve sent me another one, but when I open the envelope this one is different(shorter and wider).

Diegoboy, which one of these resembles your sponsons?
The left one came with the kit, and the right one is the one that Steve sent me
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e300/TLTCRAWLR/sponson.jpg

[Diegoboy]

Both the one on my working one and the kit are the "left" one.
I'm not sure, but I think the right one is the "pre" rough water mod version. Steve will make it right. Call him via the number on his website. Just keep in mind he's in Cali.

[Diegoboy]

Do you have any pics of your progress?
:D

[Diegoboy]

...If you like, I'll send you mine, and work it out with Steve since I'm not ready to start mine yet. LMK

['83 chevy]

I'm still waiting for my stuff from tower to show up,(battery,charger,CA,esc) it will be here tomorrow,and my hardware will be here monday. Are you sure you are willing to do that? i dont see why I coudn't make 2 new ones out of some really thin balsa. I'm planning on starting building tomoorw, but if they dont come out right, I'll Pm you

[Diegoboy]

edit, Diegoboy, could you get some pics of the inside of yours, where the battery goes, I'm not sure if the reinforcement foam pieces go inside the main hull or on the sponsons.

Wow, Sorry I missed that one. battery goes in the front of the main hull "tub" The reinforcement pieces go inside the main hull too...
Pics to follow

Keep in mind, this boat was in a serious accident with a mahogany runnabout. Steve looked at the pics of the damage and told me that she looks like she'll never run again. He asked me to send her back to him. He repaired her good as new, then returned her back to me at no charge. That's what I'm talking about. He's a great guy!

[Diegoboy]

Are you sure you are willing to do that?

Absolutely! Just keep me posted.

Here is the pic. Remember she was in a severe wreck...
Those reinforcement pieces were put there by Steve to close the breach in the tub hull.
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1458-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1458.jpg)


This is one of the accident pics
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1231-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1231.jpg)

Notice that the rear Carbon Fiber sponson boom is snapped apart. Had to be a big hit to break CF.

[Diegoboy]

This is the boat that I collided with.

[andym]

I have just ordered one of these can you please give me the dimensions of the battery so can order and know that they will fit. Thanks

[Diegoboy]

My battery is...
1-5/8 W
3-1/8 L
5/8 H

Mine is a tight fit because of the built in balancer. The battery recommended (on the website) fits much better. I have to put the discharge lead into the nose of the hull, because where it wants to sit naturally (on the side of the battery) will be far too tight, but it will fit. I find it easier to work with by putting that discharge lead in the nose.

['83 chevy]

Absolutely! Just keep me posted.

Here is the pic. Remember she was in a severe wreck...
Those reinforcement pieces were put there by Steve to close the breach in the tub hull.
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1458-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1458.jpg)


This is one of the accident pics
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1231-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1231.jpg)

Notice that the rear Carbon Fiber sponson boom is snapped apart. Had to be a big hit to break CF.

Ouch, That must have made a pretty sweet sound. Im still waiting to hear back from him on this, but I will keep you posted

['83 chevy]

I'm building mine right now, and I'm stuck. The rudder bracket, is it flush with the side of the tub and the bottom of the tub?

I'm really surprised at how easy this is so far. I cant wait to run it.

[Diegoboy]

Sorry for the delay. Work had me on overnight installs. :mad:

Here's 2 pics of my transom.

Click to enlarge
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1482-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1482.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1484-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1484.jpg)

['83 chevy]

Sorry for the delay. Work had me on overnight installs. :mad:

Here's 2 pics of my transom.

Click to enlarge
http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1482-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1482.jpg)

http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1484-sm.jpg (http://www.diegoboy.com/misc/100_1484.jpg)
Thank you. I should have the main tub and hopefully the sponsons done today,

[redrider]

i just ordered a renegade without realizing that the hardware is not avalible. Does anyone know were i can get one? Or does anyone know when thay will be in stock?Also does anyone one know what reciver and servo fits best so i can get them on order? Thanks for any advise

[Diegoboy]

The HW package is only sold by OSE & Fields. (from post #6). The reason they are both out is because the mfg is low on the "Strut". You could purchase each part individually from the list on either site, then try to find the strut somewhere else.
Just a suggestion that I'd try rather than wait.

[dirtysouth31]

there out of stock%$^%$*%*%%$^%^%#$^^%&^**)**)(^%^^$##$^

[dirtysouth31]

im gonna go steal diegos when hes at work

[andym]

Yeah it sucks I ordered one after reading this thread and watching the vid. A great little project. The struts are whats out of stock, emailed Steve at OSE and asked him if the minicat hardware would be good but he said he could not recomend because he doesn't know if a .98 flex is to small or not. A pitty realy as the look better.

['83 chevy]

Fine design has a 3/16ths strut, not sure if its too big though
http://www.finedesignrc.com/hardware/ffestrut.gif
The FDM strut $21 http://www.finedesignrc.com/hardware.asp

[Diegoboy]

that strut is the one you guys need. Be sure that he has the stock, I heard his bin qty is not accurate.

[SJFE]

I have one smaller than that ;)

[redrider]

will this work? http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/proddetail.php?prod=mcr-mhd&cat=69

[andym]

Thats the mini cat one that OSE says the .98 flex might be to small.

[redrider]

Just got my kit ready to build (minus hardware) any tips or tricks for my first boat build

['83 chevy]

Just got my kit ready to build (minus hardware) any tips or tricks for my first boat build
Just take your time, especially on the sponsons.
Other than that it is very easy.

[one.baddog@yahoo.com]

were can i get this renegade RTR ?

[andym]

Build it your self you will find the satisfaction is tremendous and makes running it even more enjoyable.

[redrider]

what kind of paint and sealant works best?

[ace028]

Hi, I just bought the renegade kit as well. I have the tub mostly done and I'm still working on the sponsons. This boat looks really fun. I am waiting for the hardware kit as well. I think I want to buy another one after I get this one done. What other motors will work other then the 400 one that I got in the kit? Thanks for all the tips and pics.

[Diegoboy]

what kind of paint and sealant works best?

Any kind would serve the purpose. As long as water beads up, and doesn't absorb into the wood, you're okay.



Hi, I just bought the renegade kit as well. I have the tub mostly done and I'm still working on the sponsons. This boat looks really fun. I am waiting for the hardware kit as well. I think I want to buy another one after I get this one done. What other motors will work other then the 400 one that I got in the kit? Thanks for all the tips and pics.

I never really gave that one much thought, I asked Steve the same thing so we'll see what he says. I'm sure it just a matter of size and weight.

[Wake Maker]

Will a .21 hydro hardware kit work, like something from Speedmaster?

[redrider]

I am haveing trouble with my instruction they are photo copyed hard to see does anyone know were to get a better set

[Diegoboy]

Will a .21 hydro hardware kit work, like something from Speedmaster?

I doubt it will work.



I am haveing trouble with my instruction they are photo copyed hard to see does anyone know were to get a better set

They are all like that. If you have questions, you can ask us here or as the instructions state, you can contact Steve E.

['83 chevy]

Just as Diegoboy said, don't hesitate to ask Steve any question, no matter how trivial it may seem. He's very great on customer service