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  • befu
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 980

    #1

    1/16 shovel nose issues

    Math problem
    1/16 shovel nose hydro + one new Foster child = 1/32 shovel nose + 1/32 shovel tail!

    Well, I guess I should have been more specific on what not to play with. I got my kit for Christmas and started to build it. this happened awhile back, already have a solution and will be posting that in a few days! Oh-well, when you get lemons make lemonade.
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  • screwball
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 464

    #2
    what happened did he cut it in half with a saw?!?!?!?!

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    • Rumdog
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Mar 2009
      • 6453

      #3
      Did he try to use the shovel nose as a shovel?

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      • befu
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 980

        #4
        Just broke

        I hadn't yet removed the center section of the middle bulkhead, so it made a nice clean split right there. Oh-well, live and learn huh?

        For what these kids go through, something like this just reminds me that I am happy to have stuff to break!

        That and as an engineer, I love problems to solve! Of course, with 5 kids in the house from 4 to 9, the "daddy can fix it" box never goes empty! More later on this one.

        Brian

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        • domwilson
          Moderator
          • Apr 2007
          • 4408

          #5
          Originally posted by befu
          For what these kids go through, something like this just reminds me that I am happy to have stuff to break!

          That and as an engineer, I love problems to solve! Of course, with 5 kids in the house from 4 to 9, the "daddy can fix it" box never goes empty! More later on this one.

          Brian
          I like your attitude! Maybe you two can fix it together.
          Government Moto:
          "Why fix it? Blame someone else for breaking it."

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          • befu
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 980

            #6
            Solution for me

            OK, just got done tacking the two halves together with some CA. Will epoxy all the way around the edges to bond it, then trim them flush. Some expanding foam in the sponsons and nose to stiffin that up, and I think it will work.

            I did use to much kevlar and carbon though, it is overly strong and seems heavy to me. right now it is tipping the scales at 10 oz, so I figure joined and foamed, should be around 12 oz. Not sure what the wood one would have weighed.

            OK, in the pics below, the deck was laid up larger than needed. The bottom was laid up to size and trimmed. This allows the deck to be trimmed back to the bottom sides, should work out nice. The bottom picture shows how much the deck layup over hangs the bottom. I took a sharpie and blacked out what needs to be trimmed off. Still needs a transom in it also.

            Nice thing is, the inside is nice and open. I can fit a 3s-1800 battery in each side with room for a motor in the middle. This means I can mount the motor further forward and slide the batteries back for COG, giving a nice run for the drive shaft. Oh, it will be solid drive shaft under the boat, gotta be scale looking! (No racing, just fun running.)

            The layup is a layer of 2 oz glass, then a kevlar/carbon hybrid that is about 5.2oz I think, with a few strips of kevlar carbon to reinforce the decks. The bottom also has a layer of 5.7oz carbon in the pan front to back and in the sponson ride pads. It is stiff!

            Before laying it up, I used a mixture of micro balloons and epoxy to fillet the corners. Still had some air bubles on the underside, but not so bad that I can't fix it.
            That is the strips of white that you see. To me, Gelcoat just adds weight.

            Brian
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            • befu
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 980

              #7
              Originally posted by domwilson
              I like your attitude! Maybe you two can fix it together.
              yeah, that one can be scary. Many of them do not know how to follow directions and safety is key with them. Thier parents tend to scream when they have a bruise from playing. I teach them lots, but you have to get to know them first and know how they will respond to instructions first. We have had kids that couldn't use silverware properly, not going to let them loose on a power tool too soon!

              My 8 and 9 year old boys have now learned the scroll saw, disc and belt sander, and drill press for now. I remember learning how to use a scroll saw, I wonder if my dad was as nervous as I was! Gotta buy him a beer

              Brian

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              • befu
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 980

                #8
                Kevlar and carbon hull

                Well, the hull is now joined and trimmed. Still need to primer it and fill in the air bubles.

                This thing is really strong! Definately went to heavy on the layup, and I haven't added the expandable foam yet.

                sitting just under 11 oz right now.

                anyone know what thier wood ones weighed?

                Brian
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                • befu
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 980

                  #9
                  Finally progress

                  Alright, my 10 year old and I made a plug for a hatch cover. Wasn't sure what I wanted to do, but I do know I wanted a one piece hatch cover, so we made one. Using inserts on the plug, you can make it for an open engine or a cowled engine.

                  Still need to touch up a couple of spots with spot putty, but it is looking pretty good now.

                  Power will be a turnigy 2836-2350 outrunner on 3 cells, running a solid shaft.
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                  • JimClark
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5907

                    #10
                    Guess I shouldn't say now I have some full cowls I could have sold you oh well nice job!
                    Jim

                    Originally posted by befu
                    Alright, my 10 year old and I made a plug for a hatch cover. Wasn't sure what I wanted to do, but I do know I wanted a one piece hatch cover, so we made one. Using inserts on the plug, you can make it for an open engine or a cowled engine.

                    Still need to touch up a couple of spots with spot putty, but it is looking pretty good now.

                    Power will be a turnigy 2836-2350 outrunner on 3 cells, running a solid shaft.
                    "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                    Billy Graham

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                    • befu
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 980

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JimClark
                      Guess I shouldn't say now I have some full cowls I could have sold you oh well nice job!
                      Jim
                      Figures! And from seeing your builds, they would have looked fantastic!

                      Oh-well, had fun teaching my son and he got to see something he helped make turn into a finished part.

                      I think this weekend we will paint both of thier crackerboxes. yellow and red is what they choose!

                      Brian

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                      • JimClark
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 5907

                        #12
                        Actually I bought them from Dr Jet can't take credit for them
                        "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                        Billy Graham

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                        • befu
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 980

                          #13
                          driveline in

                          Alright, got the motor mount and the drive shaft installed. Drive dog is under the transom, prop sticking out behind. Rudder is ordered and will be an aluminum one on the port side.

                          Motor is a 2836-2350kv outrunner, connected by a .098 flex shaft to a solid drive shaft that sits right at 4 degrees. Prop CL is 1/2" below the bottom of the center hull.
                          It has room inside for one or two 3s-1800 or 2200 batteries. Using my wc and BEC hobby king SS 40/50 amp speed control. Will start with a 30mm prop and can go up to a 35mm prop.

                          RTR with one 3s-2200 battery is looking like 2lbs 2 oz.

                          Wife wanted purple, so we are going purple. Thinking about the thriftway scheme but with dark purple stripes!

                          Brian
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                          • JimClark
                            Fast Electric Addict!
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 5907

                            #14
                            I got a scheme for you let me dig up a picture.
                            By the way I don't have any more updated plans than you do.

                            Jim
                            "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                            Billy Graham

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                            • JimClark
                              Fast Electric Addict!
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 5907

                              #15
                              ok here you go not totally scale as it is an older hull design but it could work.

                              "Our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone except God.
                              Billy Graham

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