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  • Simon.O.
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2007
    • 1521

    #1

    Simon's Canard.

    Here are a few shots of progress so far.
    This is very much a build and see what happens.
    I am confident that I will have a lot of lift under the centre rear which will be usefull to lug those Ni cells around.
    Attached Files
    See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood
  • Simon.O.
    Fast Electric Addict!
    • Oct 2007
    • 1521

    #2
    I am waiting for the clearcoat to cure so I can put the top skins on the wings.
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    See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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    • Dr. Jet
      Fast Electric Addict!
      • Sep 2007
      • 1707

      #3
      I'm dying to see if this works. If it does, I can see a 400 mm version in the future for the SLOBS. .
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      • Avanti
        Fast Electric Addict!
        • Nov 2007
        • 1280

        #4
        Herb Stewart has a canard he says it is fast like a hydro and turns like a tunnel, this should be an interesting build keep us posted Simon
        The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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        • Doug Smock
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          • Apr 2007
          • 5272

          #5
          Interesting build Simon, keep up the good work.

          John, Herb will be racing with us this weekend, what about you??

          Doug
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          • Simon.O.
            Fast Electric Addict!
            • Oct 2007
            • 1521

            #6
            A bit more progress.
            The weather here is crap and I am house bound with a proper cold, fever shakes and all.
            On the plus side I can get some boat work done. The canard is about a week away from hitting the water as all I need now is some decent weather to lay on and cure the varnish.
            My rigger has had some surgery and is recoveing well too !

            Here is the Canard prior to varnishing the latest skins.
            Attached Files
            See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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            • ED66677
              Fast Electric Addict!
              • Apr 2007
              • 1300

              #7
              Looks really good!
              Emmanuel
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              • Simon.O.
                Fast Electric Addict!
                • Oct 2007
                • 1521

                #8
                Here it is finished.
                It went in the water for the first time today. I use a common power setup for 4 of my hulls so it is easy to swap in a can / esc / 6-pack in there and 1 of 3 small octura props.
                It hauls !!
                Nose up and onto the plane nearly instantly.
                As the sponsons are very similar to my rigger I expected it to get up and go, but this got up and went .......WELL !!!
                The sponsons run about as dry as my rigger and the front step just kisses the water. This hull has all the lift I need and as yet no sign of blow over.

                There was a lot of debris on the water today so I could only get short hops before something got fouled on the rudder or prop, I had already torn the tf off the hydro on a floating branch so I was a little cautious with this one as it was its first day out.

                It looks real nice up on the step and turns like its on a tether, but it has one very interesting characteristic. The tail is very loose and there is a drift to the RIGHT !!
                Now this can not be prop walk. The sponsons are paralell and all other dimensions are good.
                There is no skeg on the strut and I believe this may be an issue. I know when I removed the skeg on my OB on the tunnel it was wild in the tail too.

                I have a couple of old turn fins off my baby mono that I will temp fit to the transoms of the sponsons to see if this holds it a little straighter. I can then look at a skeg on the strut or even a fin on the rudder standoff in front of the rudder.
                Anyone else have any handy tips for this one.

                I am looking forward to tuning this one.
                Attached Files
                See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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                • Ocean Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 502

                  #9
                  Sweet boat. How long did this boat take you to build?
                  Failure is the First step to SUCCESS

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                  • Avanti
                    Fast Electric Addict!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1280

                    #10
                    very nice, are you going to paint it or leave it natural?
                    where did you get the plans for the hull?
                    The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                    • Avanti
                      Fast Electric Addict!
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 1280

                      #11
                      Originally posted by D.Smock
                      Interesting build Simon, keep up the good work.

                      John, Herb will be racing with us this weekend, what about you??

                      Doug
                      Doug, sorry I just saw this

                      I would love to come to one of the SAW events when I have something worthy. I am working on a few boats, but nothing spectacular as of yet
                      The Manx has been sitting dormant, but I think I finally have my motivation back. I hope to see it float soon.

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                      • ED66677
                        Fast Electric Addict!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 1300

                        #12
                        Congrats Simon, nioce to see that the work you did paid at the end!
                        Emmanuel
                        I'm french but I doubt I really am!
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                        • Simon.O.
                          Fast Electric Addict!
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1521

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Ocean Racer
                          Sweet boat. How long did this boat take you to build?
                          Jay
                          Total project time has been about 6 weeks but real hours on the build would be about about 30-40 hours at a guess. I have had a few other projects on the go, there is the 29" 700 powered mono, my semi scale patrol boat that I started 25 years ago, fine tuning the rigger, repowering the tug, running all the boats at the pond, and then from time to time actually going to the station to do some work.

                          Originally posted by Avanti27offshore
                          very nice, are you going to paint it or leave it natural?
                          where did you get the plans for the hull?
                          John
                          I have not painted any of these balsa boats yet as I am not a keen painter and have not really come up with a good idea for colours. I really like the way Darrin has a team look to his fleet and would like to do something similar to my boats. I really like the varnish so I would look to putting colour on 1/4 to 1/2 the surfaces only. If anyone does photoshop well go for it and make a suggestion.
                          Plans..................hmmm, now there is the problem. At the top of the page somewhere there are the photos of the card cutouts I made, that is about as close as there are to plans. The rest is scrawled on my bench and in my head.

                          Originally posted by ED66677
                          Congrats Simon, nice to see that the work you did paid at the end!
                          Thank you, had a LOT of help from here, so all those who contributed to the canard and rigger design discussions I thank you all.

                          I just wonder how foils will go on a rigger
                          See it....find the photos.....sketch it it....build it........with wood

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                          • G Doggett
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 446

                            #14
                            Great project Simon, keep thinking outside the box !

                            When you say ' drift to the right' do you mean the boat wants to turn right , or is the transom drifting to the right, ie boat turning left ?
                            If the boat tends to veer to the right because of prop walk I suggest you mount the rudder on the L/H side so that the drag from the rudder will help to offset prop walk.
                            I have found this works well on cats as they usually corner flat, so dont need to have the rudder on the right like a DV or mono.
                            Graham.

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                            • Ocean Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 502

                              #15
                              Thanks for the response Simon.
                              Failure is the First step to SUCCESS

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