TP 3630 1950 Test Reports

[Doby]

Lets say tentatively yes...but wait till it gets closer to make a final call. I'll call you later this week. Do you have a baseline for your Whip that we could compare things to, with the M445?

[ezhitz]

Sounds good I can get some data for my boat to compare .

[Brushless55]

Really need to get one mounted up in my JAE and see how she goes

[Quietlee]

A couple runs on Sunday on the mono and one on the sport hydro. Used my regular (modded) 645 on the hydro (scratch built Oberto) and still can't tell much difference from the AQ motor. The TP does seem to run a little cooler than the AQ motor. Ran it longer than normal "race length" too.
The mono (Cyberstorm) started with an M445 with a barr cut. Ran it close to 3 minutes to see how it would work for an offshore course. Speed was close to the same as with the PB1800 and M545. Forgot the temp gun, but I could tell the motor was barely warm with my finger. I then tried it with an M545 that has only been S/B. Ran a little faster, but not by much. The pond was a little choppy and at a little over 2 minutes, it spun out. Landed upright, but wouldn't go. Once I got it in I found that one of the motor wires had come unsoldered from the connector. The solder splattered during the impact from the spinout. No smell from the motor. Guess I'll have to switch to the 5.5s on the motor side. The battery was a little more depleted than on the longer run with the 445.
The rest of the package in both - Hyperion 5000 45/90, CC120 set at 2 deg.

[TheShaughnessy]

ok so don't take the lableing too seriously, I may have mixed up a previously made run with an aq motor on a different day. I think the motor is a good canidate for the limited list. My amperage numbers were higher then i expexted to see. Temp sensors seem to be screwy, at least one of them any ways, plus i forgot what sensor was pluged in to which port. ran 4 sets of batteries, all different brands or MAh so there could be speed descrepancy there. This was just to get some sort of numbers up.

testing was done in a TP MOTOR TESTING GPS.jpgTP MOTOR RPM.jpgTP AMP M445.jpgTP AMP 642.jpgmiss geico with a slight sponson mod.

[longballlumber]

ok so don't take the lableing too seriously, I may have mixed up a previously made run with an aq motor on a different day. I think the motor is a good canidate for the limited list. My amperage numbers were higher then i expexted to see. Temp sensors seem to be screwy, at least one of them any ways, plus i forgot what sensor was pluged in to which port. ran 4 sets of batteries, all different brands or MAh so there could be speed descrepancy there. This was just to get some sort of numbers up.

testing was done in a [ATTACH=CONFIG]122256[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]122257[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]122258[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]122259[/ATTACH]miss geico with a slight sponson mod.

Curious - What controller did you use in these runs?

I am also curious on your driving style for these runs? The reason I ask, is the large difference in "Peak" amp draw in the 120's - 130's vs. the "Low" amp draw down to 15-30amps.

Thanks,
Ball

[TheShaughnessy]

Well you have to remember the capture rate is 10 samples per second. These were all long passes, for the most part I was simulating running on an oval. I let off going into the corners to set the boat, plus I wasn't in the mood to do a recovery so I wasn't pushing in the corners super hard.

Esc was a t-180 . Timing was set to 3.5*

What you want to look at is the "thick " red area.

[TheShaughnessy]

I'm going to clear the recorder and do this again. It may even need to be calibrated. The only somewhat decent temp reading I got was 127 with the cut 447. I figure if couldn't have been much hotter then that with the smaller props.

I might have to pull the data after each run. I have it set to only record if it has a 3d fix s if it loses that I think it starts a new session.

Also I'm pretty sure I labeled the 442 where it's actually a aq1800 with a 447 in a small pond where I couldn't make a top speed pass.

When I get some more readings ill take these down.

[longballlumber]

No worries, I understand how the Eagle Tree works. Just so you know there are some settings you can change to eliminate the "down time" in your logs. I have posted an example of one of my logs using a AQ 1800 in a P-Limited Sport Hydro. Thanks for posting your BDR file images.

Later,
Ball

[TheShaughnessy]

How do you have yours set. I've messed with different triggers like rpm and amp draw but I always seem to end up with large gaps. It's annoying cause it throws the average way off, your graph looks clean. Are you Trimming the session or are you logging triggers just set up good?

[ezhitz]

One thing you can try is set the eagle tree to start logging after you reach a certain amp. this way its not logging while you are taping up.

[LuckyDuc]

Summary:
I did some Eagle Tree testing today at the Badger pond and thought I’d share my findings. The same prop/setup/and water conditions were used for each test run. P.S. I chose an aggressive prop to stress test both motors a bit ;-)

The older version UL1 motor (circa 2012) had a bit more top end speed in the straights, ran cooler, and pulled more amps on average. The timing for the UL1 was set to 10 degrees.

The TP 3630 – 1950kv motor pulled less amps than the “old” version UL1 on average, but ran hotter, had less top end speed, but averaged higher speeds overall because it carried more speed through the corners. The timing for the TP 3630 – 1950kv was set at 0 degrees timing.

I will post the Eagle tree charts for each run tomorrow.

[tlandauer]

Summary:
I did some Eagle Tree testing today at the Badger pond and thought I’d share my findings. The same prop/setup/and water conditions were used for each test run. P.S. I chose an aggressive prop to stress test both motors a bit ;-)

The older version UL1 motor (circa 2012) had a bit more top end speed in the straights, ran cooler, and pulled more amps on average. The timing for the UL1 was set to 10 degrees.

The TP 3630 – 1950kv motor pulled less amps than the “old” version UL1 on average, but ran hotter, had less top end speed, but averaged higher speeds overall because it carried more speed through the corners. The timing for the TP 3630 – 1950kv was set at 0 degrees timing.

I will post the Eagle tree charts for each run tomorrow.

Thank you for the easy to understand chart, it is perfect for someone like me, sometimes the graph is hard to read and understand.

[LuckyDuc]

TP 3630-1950kv Eagle Tree Charts

These are the Eagle Tree charts from my testing runs on the TP 3630-1950kv.

The top chart is GPS speed. The bottom chart is Amps.

[LuckyDuc]

UL1 (2012 version) Eagle Tree Charts

Here are the Eagle Tree charts from my test runs on my 2012 version UL1 motor for comparison to the TP motor.

Top chart is GPS speed. Bottom chart is Amps.