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[airman66285]

a very cheep and easy offset is the octura stand offs....about 10 dollars

Ron,
I noticed that I only had a 70% reduction in porpoising when I used the Octura brackets. In my opinion, the rudder is still too close to the thrust cone with the Octura set-up. The Kintec bracket off sets the centerline of my rudder blade from the centerline of the thrust cone by 1.6" and I have absolutley no bounce whatsoever. I also modified the fore-to-aft dimension of the bracket so that the rudder is closer to the transom.

[airman66285]

Airman
That is just what I needed! Your drawing is perfect. It seems Kintec may have miss drilled one of the holes in the bracket I received, as my rudder is on angle now. I will send him a picture and share with him what we all have concluded about the shape of his bracket.
Thank you
Boomer

Let me know if Jan needs a 3D CAD file or anything else. I do CAD for a living and I can do it very easily and quickly for him or anyone else.

[airman66285]

Did strength suffer with the red part being removed?

I wouldn't worry about the strength of the bracket after it is modified - it is aircraft grade aluminum and very strong. It is at least 5x as strong as the stock aluminum from the MG rudder assembly.

[Darin Jordan]

I wouldn't worry about the strength of the bracket after it is modified - it is aircraft grade aluminum and very strong. It is at least 5x as strong as the stock aluminum from the MG rudder assembly.

If something happens while driving a MG that requires a rudder assembly that is "5x as strong as the stock aluminum from the MG rudder assembly", I think you have bigger issues to deal with that the strength of the stock hardware...

[Darin Jordan]

Ron,
In my opinion, the rudder is still too close to the thrust cone with the Octura set-up.

You guys... if you noticed in my mod that I posted when this first came up, you should move the rudder FORWARD as well as to the side. I try to line up the leading edge with the drive-dog or front of prop, which keeps the rudder blade clear of the thrust cone... I drilled new holes in the rudder assembly to accommodate moving it forward as well...

That being said... mine is currently back further than that, and it doesn't have any porpoising at all when the balance is set correctly...

[airman66285]

You guys... if you noticed in my mod that I posted when this first came up, you should move the rudder FORWARD as well as to the side. I try to line up the leading edge with the drive-dog or front of prop, which keeps the rudder blade clear of the thrust cone... I drilled new holes in the rudder assembly to accommodate moving it forward as well...

That being said... mine is currently back further than that, and it doesn't have any porpoising at all when the balance is set correctly...

Um, that's what I did - moved the rudder further away from the propeller and closer to the transom. I was just trying to point out that the length of the Octura brackets put the rudder to close to the prop.

[airman66285]

If something happens while driving a MG that requires a rudder assembly that is "5x as strong as the stock aluminum from the MG rudder assembly", I think you have bigger issues to deal with that the strength of the stock hardware...

I didn't mean to knock the stock hardware - I just wanted to communicate the fact that removing material from the Kintec bracket did not make anything weaker for this application.

[Darin Jordan]

I didn't mean to knock the stock hardware - I just wanted to communicate the fact that removing material from the Kintec bracket did not make anything weaker for this application.

Just ribbin' ya, Man...

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Hatch Kit

There were people asking about the hatch kit on his mg .You can get the sv 27 hatch kit from Jan at kintec also when you order youre bracket. Works great and holds down the inner tub cover. , and it comes complete 1 screw with 2 o rings and washer to keep the water out. Works Great!! complete with a machined solid screw base ( E Z install ) and good price too! 10-20 minute job

[ron1950]

hey sounds good to me whatever works for each boat.....i being cheep as hell tryed the octura mounts first lol

[tman52804]

Airman,

Are you sure after the MG is on plane (step) that the Kintec bracket is creating drag? I would definitely agree with the drag getting the boat on plane, but once there, I don't see it causing a problem. Mine jumps up on plane so fast, I don't know if I really would mess with it.

[Darin Jordan]

Airman,

Are you sure after the MG is on plane (step) that the Kintec bracket is creating drag? I would definitely agree with the drag getting the boat on plane, but once there, I don't see it causing a problem. Mine jumps up on plane so fast, I don't know if I really would mess with it.

It it's still getting hit by the prop spray, then it's going to cause drag... Looks like the rudder arm/linkage, and the bottom of the bracket, are all still in the spray of the prop.

[Boomer]

Darin
Could you share the actual distance from the transom to the leading edge of your rudder and the length of your spacers?
That would help me in only drilling once.
Thank you
Boomer

[airman66285]

Airman,

Are you sure after the MG is on plane (step) that the Kintec bracket is creating drag? I would definitely agree with the drag getting the boat on plane, but once there, I don't see it causing a problem. Mine jumps up on plane so fast, I don't know if I really would mess with it.

Yes, the bottom part of the bracket was out of the water once she got on plane but it still hit the water and caused drag when it went over waves on the water and when I went into a corner.

[tman52804]

That's what I figured. It really shouldn't make a big difference, but every little bit helps.